INTERIOR WOODWORK REFIT

[JA]

Owners of steel gaff ketch would like to upgrade interior painted plywood and trim to functional liveaboard but more 'boaty' look. Other than the excellent Fred Bingham book, can anyone offer suggestions on reading, or advice from experience in "measuring and fitting" from the cabin sole to the ceiling and everything in between! We have tools and enthusiasm, but minimal experience.

[Dave Fleming]

Ayup, I do...
First get paper and pencil and measuring tape and layout proposed changes on drawing of space to be redecorated. When satisfied with layout get....
A load of 1/8 inch doorskins from the orange coloured building along with a hot melt glue gun and some 1 x2 inch pine and sheet rock screws.
Next assemble prospective items using above and see how they feel space, comfort and efficiency wise.
Dis-assemble, oh forgot to mention to make sure you initially assemble items in a way that allows dis-assembly, sorry 'bout that.
Take pieces aboard stripped out hull and assemble and now see how they feel/look/fit.
Make adjustments as needed.
Buy good stuff but NOT from orange coloured building and build in pieces to be finally assembled insitu. Best to to all interior finishing/painting before final assembly.
Note, having a small bandsoar and tablesoar on platform along side or in cockpit is handy as is a good barrel bodied hand held electric jigsoar plus the usual array of hand and power tools.

'Bout says it all from me.
;)

[Bob Cleek]

What Dave said. As for the "boaty" look... remember that "form follows function." Look at as many traditionally built old boats as you can. Go to your local book supermarket and look at the boat porn coffee table picture books (too expensive to bother buying!) and get some ideas.

[Ian McColgin]

Bingham is great. One of LFH's books has some standard furniture dimensions.

You might do what I'm going to do in a couple of years. I have deep and perhaps idiosyncratic ideas about lay-out based on 20 years living aboard and 54 years (not counting prenatal experience) sailing but even so I expect to make some particle board/mdo quick and dirty mock-ups of some features and try to function inside them while a few strong friends tip and shake 'em to duplicate off-shore.

G'luck

[paladin]

...and if you mean by "traditional"...you are gonna use lotsa teak.......DON'T! It makes the inside of the boat like a dark cave at midnight during an eclipse.........use light colored woods for bulkheads and ceilings, paint for the overhead and your choice of dark woods for furniture/trim...it will make a world of difference..

[Ian McColgin]

Pal's got an important point there.

Check out Pete Culler's book on how to finish 'schooner fashion.' Very restful on the eyes.

Keep the white or off-white to a max with some varnish accents and, honest to god, a painted sole - nice plain surfaces, no clutter.

Your stomach will be thanking you.

Also, "think upsidedown." Design lockers, bilge access, battery cases, ice box lid, cockpit lockers, etc etc to stay closed through a roll-over. Check out John Vigor's "The Seaworthy Off-Shore Sailboat

G'luck

[ken mcclure]

http://home.adelphia.net/~kwmcclure/images/spiral.jpg

Look deeply into the spiral.

Your eyes are growing heavier and heavier.

You will be overcome by the urge to post pictures of your project on the WoodenBoat Forum.........

[paladin]

lessee....handholds everywhere..overhead, on vertical surfaces...horizontal surfaces....
Ventilators...no holes through cabin top..run tube from cabintop to below sole...exhaust vents on some, intake on others...in a roll-over the air outlet is still above water..
Handholds outside..t-track on deck to secure harness and a gazillian other things..

[JA]

Thanks to all for replying. Off to digest the contents. What is a "doorskin"? Also who is LFH? I looked into the spiral and felt the urge to post a picture...how to attach a jpeg? Also I generally can not open the pix on this site. Cheers, JA

[Dave Fleming]

Doorskin aka Philapeneeeee Mahagony 1/8 inch ply/veneer sold at the big orange place
LFH aka L.Francis Herrshoff one of the deans of American yacht design.
Wrote several books available through our sponser plus other locations.

If ya can't see the photos what browser are you using to get here????
To attach a photo aka JPG ya hafta' have a location ie: web site or on something like Imagestation and then pick the correct URL to include in your post.

[JA]

Thanks Dave, JA