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Tylerdurden
05-14-2009, 03:36 PM
Terrorist described as “disgruntled Iraq war veteran” in role play
http://www.infowars.net/pictures/may2009/140509scouts.jpg

Steve Watson
Infowars.net (http://www.infowars.net/index.html)
Thursday, May 14, 2009

The Department of Homeland Security is training teenage scouts how to conduct armed raids on terrorists and drug dealers.

In a program which officials have described as “about being a true-blooded American”, boys and girls as young as fourteen are being put through their paces by DHS Border Patrol agents.

The New York Times (http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/14/us/14explorers.html) Reports:


The Explorers program, a coeducational affiliate of the Boy Scouts of America that began 60 years ago, is training thousands of young people in skills used to confront terrorism, illegal immigration and escalating border violence — an intense ratcheting up of one of the group’s longtime missions to prepare youths for more traditional jobs as police officers and firefighters.

[...]

The training, which leaders say is not intended to be applied outside the simulated Explorer setting, can involve chasing down illegal border crossers as well as more dangerous situations that include facing down terrorists and taking out “active shooters,” like those who bring gunfire and death to college campuses.

Some youngsters have described the program as enjoyable due to the fact that they get to shoot guns and learn about discipline.

Eyebrows will be raised over the nature of the role play situation however, due to the fact that in at least one instance the “terrorist” to be neutralized was described as a “disgruntled Iraq war veteran”.




“Put him on his face and put a knee in his back,” a Border Patrol agent explained. “I guarantee that he’ll shut up.”

Given recent concerns over the DHS definition of “right wing extremists” (http://infowars.net/articles/may2009/070509Extremism.htm) and the agency’s penchant to affiliate veterans, gun owners, Ron Paul supporters and even those who question the mainstream media with terrorists, one wonders exactly who the boy scouts are being trained to target.

The Explorer program also touches close to home with recent concerns regarding President Barack Obama’s promised “civilian national security force”. (http://www.prisonplanet.com/house-passes-mandatory-national-service-bill.html)

“Our end goal is to create more agents,” said April McKee, a senior Border Patrol agent and mentor at the session.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/homeland-security-trains-scouts-to-fight-terrorism.html

LeeG
05-14-2009, 03:48 PM
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Tylerdurden
05-14-2009, 03:51 PM
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BETTY-B
05-14-2009, 04:26 PM
This is currently running on MSNBC too. Sickening.

John of Phoenix
05-14-2009, 04:41 PM
Explorer scouts - that's an anagram for "Get a life kid".

The kid in the lead is gonna lose an eye if he ever fires a real pistol, #4 is gonna take out the front three with that assualt rifle and #5... WTF is he doing to #4?

Sacry on lots of levels.

Joe (SoCal)
05-14-2009, 04:52 PM
Alexander Emerick Jones (born February 11, 1974) is an American (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States) paleoconservative (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleoconservative)[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Jones_%28radio%29#cite_note-0) talk radio (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk_radio) host, and documentary filmmaker. His syndicated (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_syndication) news/talk show The Alex Jones Show airs via the Genesis Communication Network on over 60 AM, FM, and shortwave (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shortwave) radio stations across the United States and on the Internet.[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Jones_%28radio%29#cite_note-austinpact.org-1) Various observers have referred to him as a conspiracy theorist (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conspiracy_theorist).

The best is his list of films and topics sounds like pure TylerDurden conspiracy porn.



Martial Law 9/11: Rise of the Police State (2005) (Video)

Highlights protesters and police security at the 2004 Republican National Convention in New York City and traces suspicious evidence suggesting 9/11 was a conspiracy by the military industrial complex and "global elites". The ultimate purpose of which is to bring in totalitarian world government.




TerrorStorm: A History of Government-Sponsored Terrorism (2006) (Video)

Claims that terrorism is really a false flag operation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_flag_operation) that creates a fictional enemy, designed to introduce fear in order to control the people and invade their privacy. Historic examples used includes how Hitler used fictional scapegoats in order to invade Poland and start WWII. How the Gulf of Tonkin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_of_Tonkin_Incident) and USS Liberty Incidents (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_Incident) were created to make excuses to invade countries. The movie goes to great length to present evidence that 7 July 2005 London bombings (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7_July_2005_London_bombings) was a British government backed operation to justify the war on terror and that the official story is a cover-up. The movie alleges that the purpose of all these terror attacks is to manipulate the population to accept total government control and police state in order to gain "security". Various excerpts from Edward Bernays (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Bernays)'s works is referenced by Jones to suggest that forms of manipulation or propaganda is used to manage the people against their knowledge and determine their destiny by use of social engineering.


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Gives historical events where bankers and "power brokers" have attempted to establish global government. Discusses the likely agenda of the secretive Bilderberg Group (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bilderberg_Group) and the ultimate cost to humanity. Although unable to obtain much details on the Bilderberg agenda, Jim Tucker (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Tucker) explains that "evil is done under cover of darkness, good work is done under sunshine". In essence, the elite's influence permeates our government and their financial powers bankrolls our economy. The European Union (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Union) and NAFTA (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NAFTA) are the first steps to the total takeover of countries by commercial interests. The movie explains that to sell their policies to the public, elites exploit our fears of terrorism and climate change, and use our elected officers as PR puppets. The movie claims that the Trans-Texas Corridor (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans-Texas_Corridor) will be erected to further decrease national sovereignty and bind us to Mexico. The road toll collection is used to fund additional infrastructural acquisitions by powerful corporate elites. The involved companies also bought newspaper publishers along the NAFTA Superhighway (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NAFTA_Superhighway) to silence public opposition to the tolled highways. To further reduce public involvement in policy making, the Federal government is passing laws to give itself "dictatorial powers" and to strip states of constitutional sovereignty, all this to serve elitist interests despite heavy opposition. Power-hungry governments may in the future,as they have in the past, exterminate their populations. In past history "the state is the number one cause of unnatural death" and we may be going back to the "dark ages". Near the end of the film, Jones attacks eugenics (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenics), which used the scientific study of Social Darwinism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Darwinism) as a reason for "forced sterilization", the one-child policy and even inspired Nazi Germany's Holocaust (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocaust). Jones also calls peak oil (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peak_oil) a fraud designed to increase oil prices.


Endgame: Blueprint for Global Enslavement (2007) (Video)
Fabled Enemies by Jason Bermas (2008) (Video)
9/11 Chronicles, The: Part 1, Truth Rising (2008) (Video)
The Obama Deception (2009) (Video)

Released just two months after Obama's inauguration, the video received over 1 million views on youtube.com in the first three weeks after release. The film attempts to show that Obama's "real agenda" is the "complete opposite" of what he promised during the campaign. The film claims Wall Street engineered the financial collapse in order to "repo the country" and that Obama is just a front man used by "the elite" to serve their agenda. It details how Obama has broken his campaign promises by sending more troops to Afghanistan, appointed numerous "finance oligarchs" and lobbyists to high government positions, reauthorized the Patriot Act first enacted by the Bush administration, and wants to create a "civilian national security force" to further militarize the country. The film makes a controversial comparison between Barack Obama and Adolf Hitler.

[edit (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Alex_Jones_%28radio_host%29&action=edit&section=8)] Director



Police State 2000 (1999) (Video)
America: Wake Up (or Waco) (2000) (Video)
Police State 2: The Takeover (2000) (Video)
Best of Alex Jones, The (2000) (Video)
Comprehensive Annual Financial Reports: Exposed (2001) (Video)-Interview of commodity-trading advisor Walter Burien
911: The Road to Tyranny (2002) (Video)
Masters of Terror, The: Exposed (2002) (Video)
Police State 3: Total Enslavement (2003) (Video)
Matrix of Evil: Exposed (2003) (Video)
Aftermath: Unanswered Questions from 9/11 (2003) (Video)
American Dictators (2004) (Television)-Examines the major presidential candidates (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_United_States_presidential_election) of 2004
InfoWars: Music from the Films of Alex Jones by Graham Reynolds & the Golden Arm Trio (2007) (CD)
The Obama Deception (2009) (Video)

Any of these sound familiar ????

Tylerdurden
05-14-2009, 05:11 PM
Thanks Betty B, Seems The corporate narcissist didn't catch that.;)

Nicholas Scheuer
05-14-2009, 05:21 PM
OK. Tylerdurden, you've finally captured my interest (for just one thread).

I an an Eagle Scout, and a Scout Master of 18 years. I know something about the BSA Program, though my knowlege is a bit dated.

"Thousands"? I seriously doubt wherther any Explorer Program has reached "thousands". Such a program would have to be designed around the Boy Scouts (age 11 to 14), or the Cub Scouts (age 8 to 11) in order to reach "thousands" in a comparatively short time frame.

"Ttaining not inteded to be exercised outside the confines of the Explorer Program" is even more suspect. Since when is any BSA training intended to be used "only within"? Since its inception BSA training has always been intended to be exercised for the benefit of the general public, regardless whether that training be in First Aid to an injured party, or simply knowing one's way around a city, street by street, so as to be able to render accurate directions to a stranger (how the BSA actually got started in the USA). My own ScoutMaster desired every Scout in South Bend Troop 5 to carry a pencil and paper at all times, so as to be able to write a license plate number, or a telephone number at any time.

Yes, renegades sometimes gain influence over the BSA Program, and this may turn out to be a case of that. But to suggest (Yes, we KNOW it's not YOU Tylerderden. It never is. It's really the NYT, or whaterver other source you've dredged up this time.) that the BSA endorses this program is rediculous. Lots of parents of Scouts do not even permit their kids to shoot 22's at summer camp, let along train with AK-47-like pellet guss, or whatever.

I suspect this "anti-terrorist training" is going to be very short lived.

Moby Nick, Scout Master of Troop 42, St Mary's Church (known as The Boys Of St Mary's), Michigan City, Indiana for 18 years.

Joe (SoCal)
05-14-2009, 05:44 PM
Thanks Betty B, Seems The corporate narcissist didn't catch that.;)


GFY

Chris Coose
05-14-2009, 05:48 PM
Homos excluded.

BrianW
05-14-2009, 05:49 PM
It's like Red Dawn all over again. ;)

switters
05-14-2009, 05:49 PM
RE: the civilian national security force.

now known as the civilian expeditionary workforce.

A little something already in place, an executive directive originally to get clerks and office poges overseas to help the DOD. The executive directive was changed in Jan. They can have any DOD job now, anywhere.

Tylerdurden
05-14-2009, 06:11 PM
OK. Tylerdurden, you've finally captured my interest (for just one thread).

I an an Eagle Scout, and a Scout Master of 18 years. I know something about the BSA Program, though my knowlege is a bit dated.

"Thousands"? I seriously doubt wherther any Explorer Program has reached "thousands". Such a program would have to be designed around the Boy Scouts (age 11 to 14), or the Cub Scouts (age 8 to 11) in order to reach "thousands" in a comparatively short time frame.

"Ttaining not inteded to be exercised outside the confines of the Explorer Program" is even more suspect. Since when is any BSA training intended to be used "only within"? Since its inception BSA training has always been intended to be exercised for the benefit of the general public, regardless whether that training be in First Aid to an injured party, or simply knowing one's way around a city, street by street, so as to be able to render accurate directions to a stranger (how the BSA actually got started in the USA). My own ScoutMaster desired every Scout in South Bend Troop 5 to carry a pencil and paper at all times, so as to be able to write a license plate number, or a telephone number at any time.

Yes, renegades sometimes gain influence over the BSA Program, and this may turn out to be a case of that. But to suggest (Yes, we KNOW it's not YOU Tylerderden. It never is. It's really the NYT, or whaterver other source you've dredged up this time.) that the BSA endorses this program is rediculous. Lots of parents of Scouts do not even permit their kids to shoot 22's at summer camp, let along train with AK-47-like pellet guss, or whatever.

I suspect this "anti-terrorist training" is going to be very short lived.

Moby Nick, Scout Master of Troop 42, St Mary's Church (known as The Boys Of St Mary's), Michigan City, Indiana for 18 years.

I am not condemning the Scouts and I think once the stink fully hits mainstream the Scouts will distance themselves from this.
It does point out the climate and culture we are creating though and that is what is worrisome.

Tylerdurden
05-14-2009, 06:13 PM
GFY

Didn't mean to upset you glamour boy.:rolleyes:

Joe (SoCal)
05-14-2009, 06:18 PM
Living Colour

Wasn't all that :rolleyes:

RonW
05-14-2009, 06:20 PM
Germany had a youth program as well.......early 1930's.......

Tylerdurden
05-14-2009, 06:26 PM
Living Colour

Wasn't all that :rolleyes:

Sorry your upset from all the book licking and arse kissing you had to do today but try not to take it out on those of us who refuse to submit to it. We are fighting for your freedom.:D

Nicholas Scheuer
05-14-2009, 06:43 PM
You allude to the same thing I reffered to as "renegades".

I've seen less serious iterations of this in my Scouting years. A stop is usually put to it by the professional Scouting leadership whenever it raises its ugly head.

One typical bending of BSA unit policy arises when some overzealous adult registered with a unit promotes a year-round fundraising effort for the purpose of generating funds for some ambitious trip "over the horizon". BSA policy permits JUST ONE fundraising project in any calendar year.

I have no illusions that there are not some out there who would like to bend the efforts of the Boy Scouts Of America to promote their own agenads. BSA is usually very sensitive and astute about this sort of thing.

I have't tracked down the MSNBC story mentioned above.

Moby Nick

BrianW
05-14-2009, 07:57 PM
Living Colour

Wasn't all that :rolleyes:

Always liked "Cult of Personality" myself.

seanz
05-14-2009, 08:25 PM
The kid in the lead is gonna lose an eye if he ever fires a real pistol, #4 is gonna take out the front three with that assualt rifle and #5... WTF is he doing to #4?

Sacry on lots of levels.

#5 is smiling.
Is it just my (eyes) monitor......or does #3 have a loaded finger?

Anyway.......nothing to see here, move along.
Just another fine example of a well regulated militia.
If you don't like it, move to Canada.

BETTY-B
05-15-2009, 12:20 AM
I have't tracked down the MSNBC story mentioned above.

That's interesting. I just went to their site and couldnt find anything on it either. It was a rotating story on the regular news during the day. What a waste of a half hour...:(

This NY Times one is pretty freaky anyways. (http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/14/us/14explorers.html?em)

This kind of crap is just amazing.

DAN