My new build

[Candyfloss]

http://attachment.phpThese are the lines for the Des Townson 2.4 sailing tender (that's 8 ft.). I intend to build her in glued lapstrake, in 6mm ply. I have already started the building jig following Thomas J. Hill's instructions in his book "Ultralight Boatbuilding". I've built lots of boats before, in ply, cold moulded, glass & composites of all kinds. Even was part of a team building Americas Cup boats, but only as a labourer. (your American Spellcheck is a pain:D)I have never built a boat by this method before, although as a (much) younger man I built a model of a clinker steam launch, hull only. My Dad, an enthusiastic model engineer, built the engine, boiler etc & fitted the radio control. My oldest brother ran off with it after Dad's funeral & I ain't seen it since.
Anyway, any help I can get from you guys on glued lapstrake would be a big help, starting with "how wide should the lands (laps) be?". I hope you have Adobe Photoshop & can view this. I have no digital camera, only the scanner on my printer. Is there a better way?

[TerryLL]

Best way to post images is to upload your jpg files to a photohosting service like photobucket.


http://i325.photobucket.com/albums/k365/TerryLava/scan0010.jpg?t=1241492404

Nice lines.

[cybulski]

I started a couple lapstrake, and tore them apart. It is obviously very important that this be done well and the nice even progression of widths and line is maintained.
The only sure way of achieving this that I can think of is to line out with a series of light battens tacked over the molds to simulate the plank edges.
These are then adjusted by trial and error until a pleasing run of plank lines is obtained and the widths are within limits.

[stevedwyer]

You've entered into what promises to be a remarkable enterprise!
Just be advised... it's probably too late to build just one boat.
To start with lines and see the three-dimensional form develop is amazing.

I'd highly recommend three more books. I blended the techniques and came up with a wonderful first boat. Tom Hill's book, Ultralight Boatbuilding, I also read early on.

1. Building Small Boats by Greg Rossel
The section on lofting is excellent. One of the first things you'll do is the transom. He shows clearly how to "expand" the transom and make a template. I was able to determine precise jogs for the planks, how many planks and how much lap.

2. How to Build Glued-Lapstrake Wooden Boats by John Brooks
John provides great insight into the process and techniques.

3. Clinker Boatbuilding Manual by Iain Oughred

http://www.sailing-new-england.com/images/transom_laps-w.jpg

I used 7/8" laps, but you could go 3/4"

[cybulski]

you have any more shots of that neat little boat steve?

[TerryLL]

Oh!
Sea Bright Skiff?
More pics?

[stevedwyer]

Removed due to comment on "boat porn"

[Lew Barrett]

Your boat is just as pretty as a picture, and timeless looking. Superb choices for the esthetics!

[cybulski]

very nice

[Thorne]

Steve's boat is **prettier** than a picture, in fact probably prettier than real life! ;0 )

Seriously, a very nice modification of a great design, well-detailed.

His list of books is also great, and should answer most of your questions about clinker / lapstrake building. I just got Tom Hill's book and am working my way through it now...

[TerryLL]

Steve,
Superb!!
Please, more pics.

[Richard Jones]

I've built one of Tom Hill's Charlotte canoes plus two Rushton canoes that I adapted to glued lap construction using the same method. It worked great and I suggest you go with his instructions. The laps are generally 1/2". I'm presently lofting a 14' Rushton pulling boat and will use this method again. Enjoy!

[River Sailor]

Candyfloss — The three books listed above are a great resource — use them wisely and you won't go wrong. Good luck with your build — or should I say builds (plural) cause there is no escaping the fact that it's just about impossible to build just one. Especially when people like Steve post such delicious pics...

Steve — That is one of the sweetest boats I've ever seen! I've got to hurry and finish my first boat, so I can take on the second — you've got me hooked. Any pictures as well as any additional information (builder's log, other web resources, etc.) would be most welcome...

Thanks!

[ShagRock]

CandyFloss..In addition to the books, you could try searching for lapstrake build threads on this forum. It's a great way to pick up tips and techniques from experienced builders.

Steve..I seen your second picture above on another recent thread; but that photo of her sailing is a real beauty. Great photo!

[Windsong]

The Sun and Wind will brag to each other about how they made the day for you to sail her. Nicely done.
Lars

[Candyfloss]

They are posting boat porn all over my thread & I spent all day yesterday just getting my lines drawing to fit as an attatchment. What am I doing wrong? (lovely boat, by the way. I hope mine looks that good)


Best way to post images is to upload your jpg files to a photohosting service like photobucket.

Thanks Terry, I did this, now how do I get them from photobucket to here? I copied & pasted the address photobucket gave me into the box in "manage images" but got an error message "illegal address". In words not exceeding one syllable that even a technophile can understand please.

[Jim Ledger]

Copy the IMG code for the photo from Photobucket, then paste it directly into the the reply. The code will show up, and when you hit "Preview Post", the image will appear.

[stevedwyer]

Removed due to comment on "boat porn"

[stevedwyer]

Just read your post...
Sorry about the "boat porn". I thought you were asking for help on the process. I'll back off now.

[TerryLL]

They are posting boat porn all over my thread & I spent all day yesterday just getting my lines drawing to fit as an attatchment. What am I doing wrong? (lovely boat, by the way. I hope mine looks that good)


Best way to post images is to upload your jpg files to a photohosting service like photobucket.

Thanks Terry, I did this, now how do I get them from photobucket to here? I copied & pasted the address photobucket gave me into the box in "manage images" but got an error message "illegal address". In words not exceeding one syllable that even a technophile can understand please.

1. In photobucket, under the image, click the "Direct Link" button. This will copy the image location.

2. Return to the Forum. Above the Post Reply window you will find a yellow icon with a picture of a mountain. This is the "insert image" icon. Click it and a window will drop down requesting the image url. Click paste and the image url that you copied in photobucket should appear. Click OK and the image should appear in you Post Reply window.

I'm using a Mac, so you might encounter minor differences on a PC, but the basic procedure is the same.

[ShagRock]

Posted by TerryLL:
I'm using a Mac, so you might encounter minor differences on a PC, but the basic procedure is the same.

I'm on a PC. There are 4 choices under a Photobucket image: 1) EMail 2) Direct Link 3) HTML Code and 4) IMG Code. I highlight the IMG Code, copy and paste it to the forum.

Maybe options 2 and 4 give the same result?

[TerryLL]

Shag,

Thanks, I didn't know the best PC method of copying the image url.

And there is yet another copy method that probably works equally well on both Mac and PC:

In Photobucket, right-click on the full-size image (not the thumbnail). Then select "copy image location" from the menu that appears.

[Candyfloss]

SteveDwyer. I'm sorry if I offended you with my use of the term "boat porn". I read it on another thread & thought it was merely a blokey, amusing, tongue-in-cheek way of referring to pics posted on this forum. Your boat is just beautiful. I hope mine will be half as nice. I am new to this so I apologize once more.
Thanks guys for your help with my pictorial frustration. I'll post pics as soon as I have some.

[TerryLL]

Hey Stevedwyer,

How about starting a thread of your own. Your boat is a stunner and I'd really like to see more pics.

[stevedwyer]

No offense taken, just didn't want to step on your toes.
I had a great time learning the process and borrowed heavily from others.
Or maybe I stole, since I'm not giving it back, except for my willingness to share what I learned with others,
and encourage as many others better than I have done.

[botebum]

Look for Thorne if you have any more problems posting pics. He's the resident wizard which basically means he wrote out instructions on how to do it and will paste them on anyone's thread who is having a problem.
Your use of the words "boat porn" is not offensive to anyone here that I know of. I think Steve thought he was hijacking and misunderstood your comment.
I look forward to you learning how to post pics and flooding your build thread with boat porn. She looks like a very sweet boat.

Doug

[Candyfloss]

Yesterday my otherwise-useless-for-all-purposes stepson showed me how to take pictures with the webcam built into my laptop, so I rushed off to the studio (yes really, studio) where I am building the dinghy & took these.

http://pic50.picturetrail.com/VOL458/12377907/22018548/365341617.jpg

http://pic50.picturetrail.com/VOL458/12377907/22018548/365341614.jpg

The molds are up, the stem & keelson fitted, & some experimental stringers run out to define the shape of the planks. Experimental because I was not sure how well the stringers would handle bending round frame A to the stem. After breaking a couple I found a way.

[ShagRock]

Congrads on getting the pics up on cyberspace! Good start to your build. Looking forward to pics of future progress.

[John B]

Hey CF, there's a lurker on this forum whose name may or may not be Chris..... He's the only guy we know to have built a clinker Townson. Its a beautiful thing and drew many compliments from all, including the designer. I'm pretty sure its a bigger boat ( about 9'6-10ft IIRC)and you have a challenge with a 2.4. They're a great sailing dinghy and a nice tender for two.. I look forward to the progress.

[Candyfloss]

Hey CF, there's a lurker on this forum whose name may or may not be Chris..... He's the only guy we know to have built a clinker Townson. Its a beautiful thing and drew many compliments from all, including the designer. I'm pretty sure its a bigger boat ( about 9'6-10ft IIRC)and you have a challenge with a 2.4. They're a great sailing dinghy and a nice tender for two.. I look forward to the progress.

Yeah, Des also designed a larger version at 2.7M. Allan Hooper built about 80 of them in plastic, maybe it was that one. And yeah, tell me about the challenge.......

[Candyfloss]

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Now I've got all the ribbands run out & the transom fitted. Ribbands not attatched to the false stem yet; I'm waiting for them to relax a little before bending them that far. No more broken ribbands please!

[Candyfloss]

http://pic50.picturetrail.com/VOL458/12377907/22018525/366252722.jpgSorry, my mistake, I reorganized my albums & it's all turned to custard. I've fixed the pic problem but I can't get rid of the error message.http://pic50.picturetrail.com/VOL458/12377907/22018548/366254218.jpg

[Candyfloss]

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Four planks on & the skeg fitted. I'm using Songololo's reccomended method for spiling planks. Two strips of 4mm MDF the same width as the lands (15mm) with cross strips glued to the lower strip & the upper one stapled on. The planks are screwed together with 10 guage x 12mm PK screws, long enough to hold good, not long enough to show on the inside. Easy to remove when the glue has dried. I make an MDF pattern & copy two planks from that with a router. I'm making & fitting one plank pair each rather part-time day. Great fun!

[floatingkiwi]

Hey ya Crusty old Coromandel curmudgeon. It has been a while since your last eh? Go Kiwi.

[Candyfloss]

Yesterday I found another good reason for making plank patterns, not planks directly off the spiler. While trimming the pattern plank to the ribband it all went horribly wrong & I trimmed much too much off the bottom of the plank. No worries. Just edge glue a ripping to the pattern , leave overnight & re-cut next day. If it had been a real plank.. well I have no excess stock, so I would have had to buy a new sheet of ply, lengthen it, & cut a new plank. Three days work. Doesn't bear thinking about. And I get a complete set of plank patterns into the bargain with no extra work. Win/win!
Hi Kerry. How are you doing?

[Candyfloss]

http://pic50.picturetrail.com/VOL458/12377907/22018548/367296589.jpg

Here is the sheer strake being glued on. I want to clear finish it so it is clamped only. It is good to have a friend I can borrow so many clamps from.:D


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And here are the plank patterns. Plank 6 (sixth from the right) is the one that gave me a heart attack. Not only is it's shape dramatically different from the five previous, but gravity attacked me. Being on the turn of the bilge, suddenly the few clamps I had been using were no longer sufficient to hold it in place, & before I had noticed I had routed out a plank that was significantly narrower than required.

[Candyfloss]

http://pic50.picturetrail.com/VOL458/12377907/22018548/367377026.jpg

We popped her off the mold this morning to see what she looked like, & just to check that such a thing is possible. Fortunately, it was. Also, I was keen to see what she weighed. On our bathroom scales, 19 kilos (40 pounds). Excellent!:D. The designer allows 35 k. finished in fibreglass. I can't see how she will weigh more than 25 k in the water so I am stoked!:D:D.


http://pic50.picturetrail.com/VOL458/12377907/22018548/367377020.jpg

That inner stem looks a little too beefy where it joins the keelson, so I will fine it down a bit on the next one. Otherwise, I am a very happy man.

[2MeterTroll]

looks very good Mr. Floss

[Candyfloss]

Now she is back on the mold & my client is filling all the holes in the hull while I go to Wellington for the weekend to visit my daughter. Next, fit the gun'ls.

[2MeterTroll]

this boat does fit out the door right?

[Candyfloss]

If you tip it on it's side it will.

[2MeterTroll]

just checking ;)

[Candyfloss]

http://pic50.picturetrail.com/VOL458/12377907/22018548/367901381.jpg

Here is the boat ready to come off the mold.

http://pic50.picturetrail.com/VOL458/12377907/22018548/367901379.jpg

Transom cleaned up & gunn'l fitted.

http://pic50.picturetrail.com/VOL458/12377907/22018548/367901378.jpg

That gunn'l was a real challenge to fit. It's 18x24mm, & that is a lot of bend.

http://pic50.picturetrail.com/VOL458/12377907/22018548/367901377.jpg

The stainless screws I put in the front end, the heads broke off.:eek:
I think it will hold together till I can get the breasthook in & fit some new screws.

[bob easton]

Good work. Very nice looking boat! Thanks for figuring out how to post pictures. There are a lot of us who appreciate them.

Advice for those screws... A little wax helps a lot. Almost any kind of wax will help. From a candle, beeswax, or even (our favorite) from the wax ring used underneath toilet bowls. Of course, a correctly sized pilot hole also helps a lot.

[Candyfloss]

You are right, Bob, proper sized pilot holes would have saved the mental anguish, & I'm the boring guy who tells everyone, even those not listening, to always prebore for screws.......That's why I own two battery drills. Maybe I should make it three......
Took her off the mold today & apart from some alarming bangs, nothing bad happened.:) A small crack appeared in the ply on the port side right up front, the start of a delamination,:eek: so I cut & fitted a stretcher bar & whipped up a breasthook real quick, glued & clamped it in place, & drove screws through the gunn'l on both sides as far forward as possible. That should relieve the stress, on the boat & me. Yes, this time I piloted properly & didn't break the screws. Word to the wise: stainless screws are actually quite fragile. In the rush I forgot to take pics. Tomorrow.
BTW the breasthook is made from a plank cut from a kauri burr. It was laying about the boatyard I used to work at, unloved, so I liberated it. Now it has a beautiful new life. I didn't know kauri grew burrs till I saw this one.

[Candyfloss]

http://pic50.picturetrail.com/VOL458/12377907/22018548/368051577.jpg

Here are the quarter knees, glue drying.

http://pic50.picturetrail.com/VOL458/12377907/22018548/368051575.jpg

Here is the breasthook all cleaned up & doing a great job of maintaining my peace of mind.

http://pic50.picturetrail.com/VOL458/12377907/22018548/368051573.jpg

This tiny little knee actually serves no purpose except to hide a couple of screw holes.


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And here is another view of the sharp end.

[P.L.Lenihan]

Looking more and more like water will be the only thing missing to complete the picture! Keep at her and remember to really take the time to put a 1st class finish on her too.It'll be worth it!!


Cheers!

Peter

[floatingkiwi]

Looking real good Graeme mate. It is Graeme, right?
It didn't take you long to knock her together. Looks like you have the same day job as me.
Kerry

[Candyfloss]

Thanks Ten Thumbs. It's winter here in Godzone so I won't be going rowing on the Firth any time soon.

[Candyfloss]

Yeah Kerry, it's Graeme. I'm a self-employed picture framer working from home so my overheads are low & I have lots of free time.:)

[P.L.Lenihan]

Ah,winter you say! Perfect time to put that Bristol finish on her she deserves!Perfect timing,what?


Cheers!

Peter

[Ed Armstrong]

Just found this thread. Don't know how I missed it for the past month and a half. Nice design. Great progress!

Ed

[Candyfloss]

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Yesterday I fitted the center thwart on the doublers I had fitted earlier. I actually achieved a pretty good fit without too much bother! With the thwart fitted the stretcher bar becomes a loose fit, so it must be about right. Then I made & fitted the starboard knee & that was a good fit too, without even having to make it twice! Not Jim Ledger good, but good enough.

http://pic50.picturetrail.com/VOL458/12377907/22018548/368205240.jpg

Well, about this good.

http://pic50.picturetrail.com/VOL458/12377907/22018548/368205237.jpg

So I made another one for the other side which for reasons I will never understand was much more difficult. Then 5 rowlock chocks & a great big glue-up.

http://pic50.picturetrail.com/VOL458/12377907/22018548/368205244.jpg

Now it looks like this.

[Candyfloss]

Thanks for the kind words, Ed.

Now for the for'ard & aft seats. I want them to look like this & be easily removable for ease of maintainance. How do I do that? Any ideas please.

http://pic50.picturetrail.com/VOL458/12377907/22018525/368209797.jpg

[Candyfloss]

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Took all the clamps off this morning & sanded the rowlock blocks flush with the sheer. Then after much debate with myself (there are those who decry this practice) I ran my trimmer with a 6mm rounder all the way round the sheer line, inside & out. So there!

http://pic50.picturetrail.com/VOL458/12377907/22018548/368295435.jpg

Then I made this support for the center of the thwart. The plan is for a sailing dinghy, so the thwart is supported by the centerboard case, but my friend does not want to sail, just row.

http://pic50.picturetrail.com/VOL458/12377907/22018548/368295438.jpg

Here is a low-level shot of my girl,just 'cos I like this view. With the building jig in the background.

I have three outstanding issues I have to resolve & any input would be welcome.
1. The planks at the bow are not quite even. No. 4 is too wide, No. 5 too narrow. I can fix this on the next one. (Of course there will be a next one. Mine! And it will be a sailer.)
2. The rowlock blocks are just plain ugly. They are as per plan, & Des Townson (the designer, remember?) never did ugly. I can only assume that he did it for simplicity on the pram dinghy that he gave away the plan for with every boat plan that he sold to amature builders, & is his specified reference for this design. ("For detail refer design #26")
I thought maybe if I tapered them towards the bottom & bevelled the sides at maybe 45 degrees they would hurt the eyes a little less. Is there some other way? Remember that there must be nothing inside the gunn'l at sheer level, & I don't see how I can mount anything on top, & I'm not sure I want to.
3. The forward seat & the stern seat. As I said, the plan is for a sailer, so these are specified as plywood buoyancy compartments fore & aft. This is not a sailer, so a more attractive & more comfortable accomodation is wished for. Also that they may be removable for ease of maintainance.
Meanwhile my friend has been left with the enviable task of sanding & painting the hull outside & tomorrow (weather permitting) I will take the building jig home & set it up in my basement & start on MY BOAT, with improvements. Hurrah!:D

[frankiben123]

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[Candyfloss]

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Got my building jig home yesterday & set it up on the framework on the levelled area I had set up earlier in my basement. Not nearly as pretty as the studio, but adequate. All recycled materials BTW, so cost =$0.00.

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Then I made & fitted these little shaped blocks to the frame so the hinge pins would line up, if you can see it. Then fit the hinges.

http://pic50.picturetrail.com/VOL458/12377907/22018548/368752576.jpg

And Hey Presto! You can tip it on it's side to get at the glue ooze between the planks.

http://pic50.picturetrail.com/VOL458/12377907/22018548/368752570.jpg

It leans up against that pole behind it. Cool hey? No more crawling around underneath. :) Tomorrow I'm off to my mate's boatshed to build the stem & transom. Happiness is.

[jevvv]

As someone who grew up on Townson's I don't know how I missed this thread before!

So you did a clinker build from Des' standard lines? Awesome!!! (just found this thread because of the photos on the other one ;) )

[Sailor]

Very nice.

[wizbang 13]

I hope you get to knock out a fleet of them!

[Candyfloss]

Just in case anyone is still looking, here is hull#4

http://pic50.picturetrail.com/VOL458/12377907/23013101/388538326.jpg

[bob easton]

Simply beautiful! I didn't see where you mentioned launching any of these. What was the final weight, and how do they handle? Sure look pretty!

[Candyfloss]

Thanks Bob. She weighs 22kg (a shade under 50lbs) all up and handles beautifully. Here's a link to the launching of hull #3.

[jevvv]

...Here's a link to the launching of hull #3.

???:confused:???

;):p

[Candyfloss]

Well, it WAS there.

Try here. http://forum.woodenboat.com/showthread.php?t=105184

[jevvv]

Ah yes, I remember reading through the whole thread when I found it - that kick-started me on the Townson thing I recall ;)

btw: thanks for the link :)

[WX]

I don't know how I missed this thread either.beautiful work mate.
So you going to make some nice birdsmouth spars for them?:D

[P.L.Lenihan]

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Hi Graeme,

Just a quick question if you've the time. I really like the way she settles nicely and rides on the third strake down like in the above photo,with her transom just barely submerged. Any idea the weight to get her down to those lines?.Will she go much lower with two aboard?

Steven Bauers' Humblebee thread has me thinking seriously about lapstrake for my dinghy choice and your Townson build is very, very, inspiring if not drop dead gorgeous!

Cheers!


Peter

[PeterSibley]

A great job , a lovely set of lines too !

[Redeye]

Townson = some of the most beautiful lines in later 20th century yacht design

Those tenders are looking rather nice :)

[jevvv]

I have to agree with you Redeye!

:)

[Candyfloss]

Thanks Jenny.

I'll give you a little history on this since it is raining outside & I'm waiting for my bread to rise. I first saw this boat when I was living in Tauranga, hanging in the rafters in a shed Dave Peet took me to, to see a Townson boat being built when I was contemplating building Candyfloss. It was in cold-molded Radiata & it was the prettiest little thing I had ever seen. I asked if I could get a plan & was told no, Des had sold the rights to a bloke in Auckland who was going to produce them in fiberglass. That was Allan Hooper. Allan produced about 200 of them over the next ten years or so. He also produced about 60 of a slightly bigger version that Des drew up for him.

About twelve years ago I went to see Des to get a small repair done on my Electron & took the opportunity ask about the dinghy. Des said that Allan had finished with the design & I was welcome to buy a copy of the plan, which I did, as well as a copy of Pied Piper. As always Des threw in a copy of the plan for the 8ft praam dinghy, design #26.

About eight years ago I went to live in Auckland & started work at Salthouse Marine Group in Henderson. I hear they have since gone bust. While there I took the opportunity to build a plug, make a mould & take one hull out of it in glass/polyester, since that is what Salthouse's built in. Things got tight at Salthouse; they were developing a new, bigger launch, a couple of sales fell through, you know the story, & me & half a dozen other guys got laid off. I was not entirely happy with the mould & shifting it was going to be a hassle, so I left it there. So far as I know, it has since been broken up. The hull I made, I sold to a guy on Team New Zealand named Joey.

After working at Cookson's for a year & getting thoroughly pissed off with building Americas Cup boats in carbon fibre, I moved to Thames to build big Ron Given-designed cruising cats in ply. That crashed & burned in the Wall St. crash two years ago. We lost a paid-up&started boat & two prospects in a week. I went into business as a picture framer with my wife as a florist, but that all turned to custard along with my marriage. Meanwhile a friend had asked me if I could build her a dinghy to row on the Firth for exercise & fun, so I showed her the plan for the little dinghy & said why not build it in glued lapstrake. Some hurried library research and some help from the Forum & hull #1 was under way. She still has it, untouched since the day I gave it to her, but I don't mind; it was good R&D.

Unfortunately Des had died before I started this so I could not ask him his opinion of my venture, but I showed hull #2 to his widow Sue who liked it well enough to stand in the winter rain for half an hour looking at it and swapping Des stories. She said I could make as many of them as I liked.

When I bought the plan from Des he asked me to make sure I got the stem profile right. I was uncertain what his concern was until I got a good look at the Hooper boat. Allan had rounded off the bow, as you do in fibreglass, but so much so that it changed the stem profile, which of course caught Des' eye immediately.

[Candyfloss]

The rig was designed for aluminium spars Gary. I think I had better not mess with that.

[John B]

Des would have loved it , there only ever was one other clinker build Townson Dinghy to his knowledge, and that was built by another forumite ( Chris) sometime early ish 2000's. I can't remember whether it was ply or solid wood, nor whether it was glued or not. I think it was , but had rivets for the look.

[Candyfloss]

Thank you for the compliments Peters both.

Des allowed for the hull to weigh 35kg. Displacement to designed waterline is 98kg. That would be a 63kg load, about my weight, and at a guess, Meg's (the model) too. Since my boat weighs 22kg (a lot lighter than fibreglass!), she would float to her lines, with the water just kissing the transom, with 76kg aboard. That is about 165lbs. I'd guess that's about your weight PL?

If you are really serious, there is, as I just finished telling Jenny (Jevvv), a slightly larger one that I could get plans of for you if you would prefer.

[jevvv]

Sounds like a wonderful set of memories and results there!

I know exactly what you mean about Des' eye: he'd told Keith Atkinson to let him know when he'd got to the sheer on Waimanu (Keith was building hull and decks for Dad). So he did and Des went over to the boatshed and subtly tweaked the sheer line on Waimanu. I still think she's pretty, as are all Des' other boats.

And you've kept the dinghy looking right to my eye ;)

[Candyfloss]

I'm glad you think so John.

My next project (I'm going to say this out loud so it becomes real) is to design & build a fully decked childproof sailing version to look as much like a Zephyr as possible. Well, a clinkerbuilt Zephyr anyway.

[John B]

He had some strong opinions on what was right and what was wrong. You'll understand then how pleased I was when he arrived at the boat one day , came aboard and told me he'd been rowing around it earlier and that Laurie Davidson had got it perfectly right.


Not sure who this fella is trying to get away with Cf's boat...

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd48/Waione_photos/Ngatira%20launch/IMG_4971_22.jpg

:D:D

[jevvv]

... and what you're doing at Sandspit

[Candyfloss]

Launching Ngatira of course. Where were you?

http://pic50.picturetrail.com/VOL458/12377907/23013101/388663516.jpg

[jevvv]

Arrrgh! Of course! >blush>

Probably at home taking stuff from Maggie and storing it in our spare room. Sorry to have missed the occasion!

[ILikeRust]

Forgive me if I just missed where you said this already, but did you get plans for this boat somewhere? If so, where? I like it!

Thanks,

- Bill

[P.L.Lenihan]

[QUOTE=Candyfloss;2630828]
she would float to her lines, with the water just kissing the transom, with 76kg aboard. That is about 165lbs. I'd guess that's about your weight PL? /QUOTE]

The last time I weighed 165 pounds Graeme was in 1973. I've grown a bit more since then,both in girth and height and settled in about 104kgs on a little over 6 foot frame.Rock solid muscle too,it is......Molson muscle through and through, to be perfectly clear.

Some blame my size on the excellent and over abundant cuisine at home,others blame it on the beer. I say it's my parents fault for having big genes.:)

But yes, I am serious about her. My big boat project has to be done first however and I'll have to soften up my gf before springing a new"project" on her. I'm really good at convincing her in the dead of a bitter cold winters' night.......

So no hurry right now, but I will be in touch several months hence.

Thanks for the info!


Cheers!


Peter

[WX]

The rig was designed for aluminium spars Gary. I think I had better not mess with that.

I don't know, no sense of adventure. :D

[Candyfloss]

You'll need the big one then Tenner. Design No 59. Identical in every way, just bigger. Nine feet instead of eight.