View Full Version : Who is going first? New Gartside cutter design
Alex Low
04-09-2009, 01:25 PM
Oh boy...
http://www.gartsideboats.com/catsail2.php#cutter19
James McMullen
04-09-2009, 03:17 PM
If I were going to build a two ton, 19' daysailer--that's the one I'd build!
It it just me, or it looks much like MacNaughton's Shilling?
Kaa
It it just me, or it looks much like MacNaughton's Shilling?
Kaa
It it just you. It it doesn't look remotely like Shilling, which is a 22er and fully decked:
http://www.macnaughtongroup.com/shilli2.gif
PeterSibley
04-09-2009, 08:32 PM
It does however contain a lot of boats very ,very unlike anything Mr Gartside would envisage .:(
Clinton B Chase
04-09-2009, 09:05 PM
Paul's little cabin daysailers, the 16' and the reworked 18' (now 19') are pretty darn cool, too. Paul is exceptional. Great teacher, too.
Duncan S
04-10-2009, 02:08 PM
Workshop extended, lofting complete, timber and bronze ordered, keel mould made. Watch this space………………………….
How’s planking going Alex?
rufustr
04-10-2009, 06:39 PM
http://www.gartsideboats.com/pgimages/updates_2009/163-6.jpg
Paul Gartside's designs are exquisite.
Even his drafting is a pleasure to look at.:cool::cool:
rufustr
04-10-2009, 06:51 PM
These photos of Paul's own boat Surprise were sent to me a while ago.
They form part of the screensaver slideshow I made for myself.
http://i359.photobucket.com/albums/oo39/rufustr/SURPRISE24.jpg
http://i359.photobucket.com/albums/oo39/rufustr/SURPRISE23.jpg
Dick Wynne
04-11-2009, 05:49 AM
Until seeing those snaps of Surprise on her legs it had not occurred to me that, depending on the lie of the beach, the legs, as here, can end up seriously load-bearing rather than just preventing her tipping, so the mounting points had better be good. I haven't tried my own legs yet, but it's something to think about. The only points touching (see 2nd photo) are the feet and the foot of the Surprise's sternpost. - Or maybe I'm imagining it, misreading the shadow along the keel. Yes - I must be!
rufustr
04-11-2009, 08:54 PM
I think at least 10 feet of keel is resting on the ground.
But you are right, the legs could be subjected to large loads.
The exercise would be to make sure that those loads are reduced as much as possible.
PeterSibley
04-12-2009, 06:59 PM
Rufus ...I think you are getting interested !
PeterSibley
04-12-2009, 07:08 PM
One tiny ,tiny criticism of Surprise is why would you run a rudder shaft ,through a seal ,so close to the outside line .External rudder posts aren't that ugly .
rufustr
04-12-2009, 07:49 PM
Peter,
I've been interested in Wooden Boats for 30+ years.
I had a nearly complete collection of early Wooden Boat Mags that got ruined during one of our house moves.
I love Paul Gartside's work and bought the study plans for the Itchen Cutter a while ago.
http://www.gartsideboats.com/pgimages/101rev-profile.jpg
Length on deck 20 ft 0 in
Beam 8 ft 0 in
Length waterline 19 ft 2½ in
Draft 4 ft 1 in Displacement 5750 lbs
Ballast 2500 lbs
Sailing rig Gaff cutter
Sail area 340 sq. ft
Fresh water 90 litres
Fuel capacity 68 litres Building time1800 hours
Skill level Intermediate Price $440 Canadian funds
Design #101 5 Sheets
I worry though that I mightn't use a boat like that too much as I get older.
I have Builder's back which is normally fine, but my Chiropractor retired a while ago, and I havn't found a reasonable replacement yet.
Standing up straight most of the time is important at the moment.
Rufus.
rufustr
04-12-2009, 08:49 PM
Very interesting Rob.
I'd like to see some pictures under sail.
http://209.51.145.59/ad_img/7/7/8/8/1_3.jpg
Canoez
04-12-2009, 08:56 PM
Geez, Alex - already planning the next one? :D
(Thought your hands were kinda full already!)
Alex Low
04-12-2009, 09:44 PM
Canoez,
Oh... I will have my hands full for a while yet... but there is ALWAYS! the next one.
Alex
PeterSibley
04-12-2009, 09:52 PM
My sympathy Rufus ...especially about the back .I work with a bloke who suffers similarly , interestingly he's fixed it up pretty well wind surfing ! Strange but true !
I have a similar tale to tell re boats but in my case my schedule has been put back a few years .When my youngest granddaughter leaves home I'll be l be 72 or 3 ,not exactly a spring chicken but with a bit of luck still strong and fit enough to cruise for a few years .It's something i've wanted to do for a very long time ...quite as long as you ! I thought I'd leave it 'til my kids left home then after a while started on the boat .I bought Willim Atkin's "Fore'n Aft " plans , started then stopped ,a bit unsatisfied with design ( I found too many errors in the offsets and got a bit rattled ,I'd be OK to build it now ) .
Decided to design my own ,based loosely on a Luke Powell interpretation of an Englsh pilot cutter . One drawing , then a redrawing and it's quite a good design IMHO .
My small problem is the she will be a fairly big boat ....by my standards and I wonder if she is more boat then I will need .Very hard to say .If I choose to live aboard she will be pretty good ,especially down South ,but perhaps a handful sailing .A yawl rig is under current consideration .
NYCKiwi
04-13-2009, 07:44 AM
Workshop extended, lofting complete, timber and bronze ordered, keel mould made. Watch this space………………………….
Hi Duncan,
Looking forward to your build. I hope you'll post details of your progress.
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