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Paul Pless
03-30-2009, 04:55 PM
http://www.carbodydesign.com/archive/2006/03/27-bmw-art-car-1979-andy-warhol-m1/1979-Bmw-M1-Art-Car-by-Andy-Warhol-lg.jpg

http://www.carbodydesign.com/archive/2006/03/17-bmw-art-car-1975-alexander-calder-3.0-csl/_Bmw-Art-Car-1975-3.0-CSL-by-A-Calder-1-lg.jpg

http://www.carbodydesign.com/archive/2006/03/23-bmw-art-car-1976-frank-stella-3.0-csl/Bmw-Art-Car-1976-3.0-CSL-by-F-Stella-3-lg.jpg

http://www.carbodydesign.com/archive/2006/03/23-bmw-art-car-1977-roy-lichtenstein-320i/Bmw-Art-Car-1977-320i-Lichtenstein-3-lg.jpg

My favorite is the 1976 3.0 CSL, painted by Stella.

Keith Wilson
03-30-2009, 05:03 PM
This is my favorite BMW, before they turned into cars for guys having a mid-life crisis. I tried my damnedest to get my father to buy one of these in 1973. He bought a Plymouth Valiant instead. It cost $400 less.

http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2006/03/31/002626.2-lg.jpg

Paul Pless
03-30-2009, 05:10 PM
Similarly I like this model Keith.

http://img332.imageshack.us/img332/8184/1968bmw2000cs4wh.jpg

Their 4 cylinder blocks were/are bulletproof to boot.

John Meachen
03-30-2009, 05:13 PM
They have had thirty years to equal the looks of the M1.About time they did so.

Ross M
03-30-2009, 05:23 PM
Keith stereotyping? Keith?

:D

oops - almost forgot the BMW:

http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/qq222/rossmcdonough/850-Csi-1.jpg

Captain Blight
03-30-2009, 05:46 PM
Hew, wow! Thanks, Paul!!


Finally, a thread where EVERYBODY wins!!

http://www.davidmcintyre.org/images/2004-08-12/320-top-500px.jpg

That's a e21 that's been leaned on, but one day I really wants me one a them e9s:

http://www.bmwcsregistry.org/photographs/30csi/30csi_Ilse_01.jpg

oznabrag
03-30-2009, 05:50 PM
So, Captain what's with the '35'?

John T

Mrleft8
03-30-2009, 05:54 PM
I saw the Alexander Calder one up close and personal back in '77-78.... It was beautiful!

Captain Blight
03-30-2009, 06:04 PM
So, Captain what's with the '35'?

John T

Do what now yo?

S/V Laura Ellen
03-30-2009, 06:08 PM
Yup, the car in the back is gorgeous!

http://www.carbodydesign.com/archive/2006/03/23-bmw-art-car-1976-frank-stella-3.0-csl/Bmw-Art-Car-1976-3.0-CSL-by-F-Stella-3-lg.jpg

Paul Pless
03-30-2009, 06:12 PM
I'm coming around to liking the original 635 CSI models. Decent low milage models are selling for $5K to $10K right now. I think they'd make a good investment car for down the road and provide a lot of pleasure while doing so.

http://www.bimmertraderonline.com/medium/6268_5023519.jpg

The Bigfella
03-30-2009, 06:18 PM
I've always liked the E24s - and thought about buying one new for a while.

Another forumite in Oz has one.

A friend imported the M88 engined one, the original M6 if you like (not sure if his is correctly designated M6 or M635). The M88 engine - also in the M1, (first photo of the thread) became the S38 engine... Blighty and my favourite engine eh Blighty?

Ya canna beat individual throttle bodies eh?

Captain Blight
03-30-2009, 06:21 PM
If you're goiing to get one, Paul, may I recommend either an '88 or '89 model year? They were outfitted with the Motronic 1.1 EMS, which was a quantum leap forward from the CIS K-Jetronic of years past. ANy engine upgrades you want to do in the future become almost drag-and-drop, from what I read.

If you really, really want the collectible 6er, think of an '88 or '89 M6. Only like 700 imported each year, but they are out there and available for ~15-20K. Try to avoid the iL versions, they were the Luxe edition and although luxuriant indeed (small refrigerator in the back, no lie) they were also performance dogs and trouble-prone.

Yeah Ian, s38 pwns! Weren't they getting like 650hp out of those for the M1 LeMans cars?

Though I keep having thoughts of an alloy-block m54 with an AirResearch t3/4 setup packing 1.5bar through ITBs. I keep thinking of that shoehorned into The Tinworm, my e21.

Ross M
03-30-2009, 06:32 PM
I'm coming around to liking the original 635 CSI models. Decent low milage models are selling for $5K to $10K right now. I think they'd make a good investment car for down the road and provide a lot of pleasure while doing so.

http://www.bimmertraderonline.com/medium/6268_5023519.jpg

Looking around for a good e39 (530i) to haul the guys at work to lunch in, I came across an M spec 635 for sale at the local "Scuderia".

It had obviously been rode hard and put away wet, but wow - a really beautiful car. It took weeks to get the guys at work back into the picture :D

LEW: Care to share details on the "first round of e39 replacements" you recently mentioned?

Ross

John B
03-30-2009, 06:47 PM
Keith stereotyping? Keith?

:D

oops - almost forgot the BMW:

http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/qq222/rossmcdonough/850-Csi-1.jpg

There's an interesting character down the road from me at work has 4 of those at last count. Bit of a petrol head with a background in speedway racing. He loves em.

Those early pillarless coupes are sweet things aren't they. can't quote the numbers because I don't know them;)

Oh E9 according to the capt.

Captain Blight
03-30-2009, 06:55 PM
They are the mahogany inboard runabouts of the BMW world!

oznabrag
03-30-2009, 06:59 PM
Do what now yo?


Quote:
Originally Posted by oznabrag http://www.woodenboat.com/forum/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.woodenboat.com/forum/showthread.php?p=2149856#post2149856)
So, Captain what's with the '35'?

John T

Do what now yo?
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When tyranny comes to America, it will be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross.

35

That '35':D It has started appearing under all your posts! '33' I can understand (Rolling Rock), but '35'? I don't get it.

John T

C. Ross
03-30-2009, 07:10 PM
The Captain, he doesn't need any pleasuring.

I'm somewhat partial to these German cars

http://germancarscene.com/wp-content/uploads/audi-r8-4-08.jpg

Captain Blight
03-30-2009, 07:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by oznabrag http://www.woodenboat.com/forum/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.woodenboat.com/forum/showthread.php?p=2149856#post2149856)
So, Captain what's with the '35'?

John T

Do what now yo?
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When tyranny comes to America, it will be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross.

35

That '35':D It has started appearing under all your posts! '33' I can understand (Rolling Rock), but '35'? I don't get it.

John TOh yeah!! I forgot I did that. It's a countdown.

Paul Pless
03-30-2009, 07:57 PM
It's a countdown.begging the question...

Captain Blight
03-30-2009, 08:00 PM
Towards a date.

C. Ross
03-30-2009, 08:11 PM
Marri-age?

oznabrag
03-30-2009, 08:19 PM
Marriage?

Dude.

At your age!?

Being committed to an institution. (Institution of marriage! Ha!)

:D

John T

Captain Blight
03-30-2009, 08:19 PM
No. Not marriage. Jeebus, John, I'm 41! If I can't decide to get married now, well... then what? Part of the fun of being a grwonup is you get to do what you want pretty much most of the time.

I'll give you a hint: A week ago, that would have read "42."

oznabrag
03-30-2009, 08:20 PM
Rockin.

Paul Pless
03-30-2009, 08:22 PM
A week ago, that would have read "42."so what was the question:confused::confused::confused: ;)

Kaa
03-30-2009, 08:23 PM
I'll give you a hint: A week ago, that would have read "42."

You're not counting down to Cinco de Mayo, are you? :eek:

Kaa

Captain Blight
03-30-2009, 08:46 PM
Yes, that's it exactly, you have divined my purpose and gosh you were all taken in ha ha.


Another hint: Joe CSOH knows this date as well.

Lew Barrett
03-30-2009, 08:53 PM
http://www.cs-zone.com/images/BMW507blauwopen.jpg

Somebody has to put this up. Not a coupe? Who cares! No collection would be complete without one.

Hwyl
03-30-2009, 08:53 PM
Doesn't Sir Alec Issigonis' nephew head up BMW now. They are at last getting some post 1950 engineering.

Lew Barrett
03-30-2009, 08:56 PM
That's not an E9 chassis; there's a pic of one of those already up (3.0C, CL, etc.).

This is an 850! Not the most successful of their cars, to be clear but said to be a great GT. You can buy yours for $10K here in the states, and that should get you a very good one.

http://pwp.netcabo.pt/0510598901/Figuras/C_BMW850AlpinaB12.jpg

Captain Blight
03-30-2009, 09:00 PM
http://www.cs-zone.com/images/BMW507blauwopen.jpg

Somebody has to put this up. Not a coupe? Who cares! No collection would be complete without one.


Oohhh sweet jesus 507 porn. I got wood.

Ross M
03-30-2009, 09:17 PM
That's not an E9 chassis; there's a pic of one of those already up (3.0C, CL, etc.).

This is an 850! Not the most successful of their cars, to be clear but said to be a great GT. You can buy yours for $10K here in the states, and that should get you a very good one.

http://pwp.netcabo.pt/0510598901/Figuras/C_BMW850AlpinaB12.jpg

Lew, you are not helping the guys at work get a ride to lunch.

Well, maybe one of them :D

Now tell us about your E39 experience (please)

Ross

The Bigfella
03-30-2009, 11:06 PM
I can tell you about an E34 experience.... today.... very wet weather, BIG understeer moment on a roundabout. Missed the gutter by.... not much.

oznabrag
03-30-2009, 11:17 PM
I can tell you about an E34 experience.... today.... very wet weather, BIG understeer moment on a roundabout. Missed the gutter by.... not much.

Ah, yes...but you missed!

John T

The Bigfella
03-30-2009, 11:21 PM
Ah, yes...but you missed!

John T

I didn't think I was going to... I don't know how I did .... I'd already thought "this is going to be expensive"

Incidentally, same roundabout on the way back.... front let go again, but I was testing it, forwarned... just a minor bit of understeer. No heart in the mouth stuff.

Lew Barrett
03-31-2009, 01:54 AM
Nine years on my 540 remains a pleasure to drive, but lordy, those specialized parts are dear. And that's the deal. It's a great car overall, and fast enough for any normal person, very muscular and responsive, a bit of a tramliner depending on what shoes she wears. But you want sticky shoes because she can handle them. The electronics are, in my experience, the weakness. My tranny syncros are slower with 90K on the clock, but still acceptable. Maybe I'm a bit hamfisted sometimes, maybe they just get slower, I don't know for sure.

She burns absolutely no oil, starts and runs like the day she was new. Paint still looks fine, ven after 9 years outside, My ass has rubbed off some of the black dye on the leather, but the interior has held up pretty well all told. I could use some new shocks, and about 1000 worth of rash repair from 9 years of city parking. Otherwise, she still looks amazingly nice.

I dread the next brake job, and have no interest in working on her myself. My friends are shocked when I tell them she's a decade old; everyone thinks it's a really cool car. That's what you get for ther money. Me? I want to get a Mazdaspeed3 when this one dies.OK, truth...I'd prefer an M3 Coupe, or that Porsche I will probably never have the balls to buy. Mazdaspeed3 would do. But it's hard to give up the E39.

The Bigfella
03-31-2009, 01:57 AM
Brake jobs aren't that bad... if you do them yourself.

I bought rotors locally last time, so they were dear, but OEM via bmaparts.com is the way to go.

I took a look at E39 M5 prices last night.

Hmmm.

Paul Pless
03-31-2009, 06:15 AM
OK, truth...I'd prefer an M3 Coupe, or that Porsche I will probably never have the balls to buy.This Porsche?!

http://imagecache.allposters.com/images/pic/EUR/2300-8484~Porsche-911-Gt2-Posters.jpg

Paul Pless
03-31-2009, 06:33 AM
http://www.cs-zone.com/images/BMW507blauwopen.jpg

Somebody has to put this up. Not a coupe? Who cares! No collection would be complete without one.Modern interpretation...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/05/BMW_Z8.jpg/800px-BMW_Z8.jpg

The Bigfella
03-31-2009, 06:42 AM
The modern interpretation of the M1.

I hope they make it...

http://www.zcars.com.au/images/bmw-m1-hommage1.jpg

Captain Blight
03-31-2009, 08:37 AM
What's the engine doing up front in an M1???

Chris Bangle should have been taken out back and shot after what he did to the 5er. The man has all the taste and restraint of a raccoon on crack.

Ross M
03-31-2009, 09:31 AM
Thanks for the insight, Lew.

And Bigfella - I am happy you didn't eat the curb. Somehow, someway, oversteer induced crunching is more palatable than understeer induced :D


http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/qq222/rossmcdonough/BMW-Z8-fa-patio-1280x960.jpg

Keith Wilson
03-31-2009, 09:44 AM
That's pretty nice, but compared to the original it looks awfully porky.

http://www.usautoparts.net/bmw/pics/vintage/0301_832.jpg

Ross M
03-31-2009, 10:35 AM
That's pretty nice, but compared to the original it looks awfully porky.


That is probably because it is porky :D

Very handsome in the flesh, though. IMO.

Ross

P.I. Stazzer-Newt
03-31-2009, 11:22 AM
http://www.historicrallyteam.com/photo/DuVar2004/23%20Lancia%20Stratos%20HF.jpg

Uncle Duke
03-31-2009, 12:09 PM
http://www.historicrallyteam.com/photo/DuVar2004/23%20Lancia%20Stratos%20HF.jpg
Stratos?

P.I. Stazzer-Newt
03-31-2009, 12:15 PM
Stratos? - yup

http://gallery.voodoo-people.com/albums/album376/rally_saab1.sized.jpg

Lew Barrett
03-31-2009, 01:35 PM
That is probably because it is porky :D

Very handsome in the flesh, though. IMO.

Ross

It's another in a long line of BMW GTs. BMW does practical, sporting touring at speed about as well as it can be done, but pure sports cars, like that M1 Blight is pining for, don't come along all that often. The 507 is not ground shaking in the same way the 300 Gullwings were, but Gortz's efforts are prettier, imo.

And you know, I think in the end, Bangle has worn a bit better than I initially gave him credit for. The original bustle on the new 5er was stunningly out of whack, but with the recent drop in that line, I think the aggressive flame look is now coming into it's own. And, as usual,
all the Japanese cars look like BMWs again; and that's 5 series BMWs.

It's hard to outdo the E39 for evolutionary good looks in the "old" style of BMW cars, but I have come to think the new cars look aggressive and racy, if a bit less swoopy. The E34 and E39 styles were some sort of icons as far as design was concerned (for sedans). A tough act to follow. The new cars have gained acceptance in their own right. To my eye he got the bustle wrong on the first go 'round, but I think the re-style was successful. And I would absolutely love a new M3, but be happy with the last iteration as well.

BMW still makes the best driver's sedan on the market.

Captain Blight
03-31-2009, 02:02 PM
If only *you* could drive them, instead of the drive-by-wire steering, throttle, and brakes.

I think the last real Driver's Car BMW made was the 01 M Coupe. Too bad it was so damn oogly.

Uncle Duke
03-31-2009, 02:27 PM
http://gallery.voodoo-people.com/albums/album376/rally_saab1.sized.jpg
Ah - the Saab 93F....

Ross M
03-31-2009, 06:54 PM
...
And you know, I think in the end, Bangle has worn a bit better than I initially gave him credit for. ...

I agree, the Bangle-butt 7 series looked really odd at first, but now... only the "4-door Coupe" from Mercedes comes close.

I was in traffic with one of these the other day - and from seat height, it really looked great:

http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/qq222/rossmcdonough/bmw_z4_Small.jpg

IIRC, Bangle was recently released from BMW.

Lew Barrett
04-01-2009, 10:34 AM
Ross, we can form the world's smallest BMW club.
We could name it something like "Bangle Meant Well."
But I'm glad I'm not entirely alone in my opinion. I think many of his elements will influence design for the next few years, regardless if people credit him or not. The new M Coupe looks great. I could easily see myself in one if I were feeling more profligate these days.

Ross M
04-01-2009, 08:37 PM
:cool:

It looks like this thread is winding down. A parting shot:

http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/qq222/rossmcdonough/28186713_XiOiVM4u.jpg

Sailor
04-02-2009, 06:04 PM
The modern interpretation of the M1.

I hope they make it...

http://www.zcars.com.au/images/bmw-m1-hommage1.jpg

I thought I told Geeves to leave it in the garage. D@mned old fool!

The Bigfella
04-02-2009, 07:17 PM
Well, a break in the rain .... and I've just done the ball joint on the wife's 535 that needed doing for its annual rego check. It just so happened that I had 8 brand new ball joints in the basement (4 x RH and 4 x LH). Nothing like being prepared eh?