Say a living oak tree was to lose a limb, you went out and chopped a bit off it and shaped it into a floor and installed the thing in ya floaty girl. How would this go?
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I have read that green wood is the best for steaming. What about floors?
Say a living oak tree was to lose a limb, you went out and chopped a bit off it and shaped it into a floor and installed the thing in ya floaty girl. How would this go?..don't judge a man till you've walked a mile in his shoes..
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I too await an answer from thems whos knows............ (but in my uninformed opinion, i think they would work good - if you let them dry and stabilize. Rough them out and bury them in damp sawdust for some amount of time. Put them in completly green and they will split up) (or I could be talkin' whoee) -
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Well, I'm sure others will correct me if I'm wrong but ..... it's a bad idea. The floors in your Folkboat are wedged tightly against the planking and have the keel bolts running through them. They need to be fitted very well to serve their clamping purpose without distorting the planking. You also want to be able to remove the keel bolts again at some time in the future. If you put green floors in, you could distort the planks if the green wood warps at all, which it will, and it will shrink away from its tight fit with the planking as it dries. Its warping will jam your keel bolts and this could even split the floor if you're unlucky, I suspect. Use good, seasoned hardwood for your floors and shape them accurately to the shape you want them to keep. RickRick
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Definitely no way, no how. As mentioned above, your floor timbers should be well seasoned to ensure a good fit. A good fit is essential in floor timbers perhaps more than anywhere else in a boat. You don't want your floors moving. That said, if it's good oak, season it (a year per inch is the rule of thumb) and enjoy!Comment
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Actually, I was informed only a few weeks ago that Spotted Gum is not such a stable timber - it swells and shrinks quite a lot, not only as it dries out initially but as it is wet and dried during use. A more stable timber is Fllooded Gum. Either way, I'd only use seasoned timber with a high degree of stability for floors, especially in a tight, critical application like a Folkboat. RickRick
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A clean tight seasoned fit makes the most sense to me. Besides, the green way is too easy and from experience, the easy way is almost always the wrong way.
That garboard plank is a big old wide plank that could use all the constant stability it can get.
Would it be OK to laminate seasoned oak to the old floors to strengthen them, as a couple have failed through the bent grain in the natural crook?..don't judge a man till you've walked a mile in his shoes..
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Jay, explain drifts.
And, contrary to what I would think proper, there are no fastenings that bind the frames to the floors in my folkboat.
Never have been...don't judge a man till you've walked a mile in his shoes..
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Yes, new `wings' of the floors can be laminated onto the old floor timber if it's in good condition. Just create a curved surface on the top of the old floor and then laminate new strips (thin, with epoxy) to the shape you want. You'll need to remove the floor to do this and then shape it all to fit back in. The laminated floor will be very strong as long as you have a good bond between the new laminated section and the old timber. If there's any oil etc. soaked into the old timber, then you'll need to build a whole new floor. I found fitting these to be a real headache so seek advice better than mine for this! Use only dry, seasoned hardwood for the floor and laminated strips. RickRick
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Yeah I am getting some together as you described. Some dowels epoxied vertically in the things would not hurt or would the elasticity or spring strengh be jeopardized?..don't judge a man till you've walked a mile in his shoes..
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A drift is a thickish, 12 cm or above bar, used for a nail to secure two pieces where a bolt cannot be used. The leading end is tapered on the anvil, and when driven it is often headed up over a washer.It really is quite difficult to build an ugly wooden boat.
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Limbs often contain a lot of what is called "reaction wood" that results from the uneven loading on a limb (tension on top and compression on the bottom) as opposed to the more uniform loading on the trunk. So, limb wood is commonly less stable than wood from the trunk. Of course if the limb was pretty much vertical than it can be thought of as a trunk...Comment
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