Build of Romilly has started [Archive]

zauberberg

02-26-2009, 03:37 AM

Hello everybody,

what a great forum! I have followed silently to most of the threads of this forum over the last years - and finally got infected with the boat virus: Somebody surprised?

The good news are, that the consequences of this contact now have materialized in a most enjoyable way: I took the decision to go for a wooden Romilly – you know the little yawl from the hands of Irens and Burnett.

Works have started now and I am pleased to show you some first photos:

The backbone is set up and the molds are erected. The process of attaching the battens to the molds has started:

<img src=“http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj436/zauberberg_2009/Romilly/P1010417.jpg” border = “0” alt=“Romilly’s molds>

The keel was laminated in place over the molds. The stem was also laminated according to the drawings, but still needs to be glued up to the keel. Here the stem is leaned against the keel just for show:

<img src=“http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj436/zauberberg_2009/Romilly/P1010422.jpg” border = “0” alt=“Romilly’s keel and stem”>

I’ll keep you posted. Thanks again for this great source of information, experience and inspiration.

Larks

02-26-2009, 03:43 AM

Welcome to the forum Thomas and all the very best of fun with your build. Unfortunately your photos haven't shown up though.
cheers
Greg

zauberberg

02-26-2009, 03:54 AM

I knew this would not work for the first time. A second try then:

... . The backbone is set up and the molds are erected. The process of attaching the battens to the molds has started:

<img src="http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/j.../P1010417.jpg" border = "0" alt="Romilly’s molds">

The keel was laminated in place over the molds. The stem was also laminated according to the drawings, but still needs to be glued up to the keel. Here the stem is leaned against the keel just for show:

<img src="http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/j.../P1010422.jpg" border = "0" alt="Romilly’s keel and stem">

...

P.I. Stazzer-Newt

02-26-2009, 04:01 AM

They are good pics..
Romilly’s molds (http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj436/zauberberg_2009/Romilly/P1010417.jpg)

Keel and stem (http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj436/zauberberg_2009/Romilly/P1010422.jpg)

N.B. you can't use straight HTML here - to embed the images directly use {IMG}address{/img} but with [ in place of {
in this case these are quite big pics so I created a link using the {url=address}text{/url} trick.

PeterSibley

02-26-2009, 04:34 AM

Thanks for the photos .I will watch you progress with interest !

zauberberg

02-26-2009, 04:48 AM

... and a third try now:

... . The backbone is set up and the molds are erected. The process of attaching the battens to the molds has started:

http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj436/zauberberg_2009/Romilly/P1010417.jpg

The keel was laminated in place over the molds. The stem was also laminated according to the drawings, but still needs to be glued up to the keel. Here the stem is leaned against the keel just for show:
http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj436/zauberberg_2009/Romilly/P1010422.jpg

...

Thorne

02-26-2009, 07:33 AM

Lovely! Keep us posted.

James McMullen

02-26-2009, 07:48 AM

If I had the money and time on hand to build another boat right now, the Romilly would definitely make my short list. Super pretty boat--and my favorite rig, too.

Clinton B Chase

02-26-2009, 11:09 AM

You're building one of the finest small craft designs ever created. Keep us posted.

Clint

mizzenman

02-26-2009, 11:15 AM

A lovely design!

Tell me, where are there any sailing waters close by Munich? Are you planing to put here in Bodensee?

Helle

02-26-2009, 11:22 AM

Good luck! Beautifull design! Keep us posted!
Grüße aus Berlin
H.

zauberberg

02-26-2009, 01:43 PM

Thank you everybody for your warm and friendly comments.

There are indeed a couple of nice lakes around Munich, well suited also for sailing, but I don't plan to use Romilly here in Germany. As a "part time greek" (my wife and therefore half of my family is from Greece) I am regularely in Greece, and that's where Romilly will sit and be used mainly.

Her home waters will be the gulf of Volos (pagasitikos), the coast of Pilion and northwards up to Mount Olympos. I think her big cockpit in combination with the warm greek climate makes her an ideal boat for camp cruising - and that is what I want her for.

Ed Armstrong

02-26-2009, 02:58 PM

Very nice! I love the Romily design. I'm really looking forward to seeing your build as it progresses!

Ed

tomlarkin

02-27-2009, 05:01 PM

What a pretty boat!
http://www.carbonmast.com/masts/romilly.jpg

Chan

02-28-2009, 03:21 PM

Zauberger,
Love the design, tried to get plans for Roxane her big sister but it didn't happen.
Ed Burnett stops by the forum now and again.
Are you going to strip her or cold mold her?
Looks like you have her about half stripped if you are going to strip plank.

tonydezoc

02-28-2009, 10:20 PM

congratulations from me too, Romilly is one of a select few designs I would consider for my next build. Would you mind answering a few questions?
1 what is the headroom in the cabin
2 what thickness strip plank does Burnett/Irens suggest and what weight/type of glass to cover it with
3what finish do they recommend for the inside of the strip plank
4is there any provision in the plans for cold molding, and finally...
5 what did you use the adze for?
just thought of another, are all the building molds removed after or do they go on to form bulkheads
regards Tony

rufustr

03-01-2009, 12:16 AM

Very exciting.

Thanks for the pictures.

Please keep us informed of your progress.

http://www.amateurboatbuilding.com/articles/design/burnett_irens/rom-pict.gif

andrewe

03-01-2009, 11:16 AM

For Tonyd (and others) Watercraft has been covering a strip and glass build of Romilly. If I ever build another, it would be her or Roxane. A Dutch builder produces GRP versions of Romilly, it was originaly designed for glass.
A

Chan

03-01-2009, 03:35 PM

andrewe,
A dutch builder does indeed produce a grp version of Romilly as well as Roxane.
However both were originally designed for strip planking with glass sheathing.

floatingkiwi

03-01-2009, 03:46 PM

see the tool in the foreground on the left up on a raised surface? Some kind of adze. What is that called and where do I get one?
A shipwrights adze perhaps?

http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj436/zauberberg_2009/Romilly/P1010417.jpg

zauberberg

03-02-2009, 03:32 AM

Chan,

the boat plan calls for strip planked construction, but we decided to build her cold molded: Three layers of mahagony, 2 diagonal and 1 in for and aft orientation.

Tony,

the sitting headroom measured from the berth surface up to the cabin top is about 90 cm / 3 ft.

If you look at Ed Burnett's website you will find study plans also for Romilly which show also the main scantlings for the boat: 18 mm Red Cedar strips for the hull, sheeted in 300gsm glass. A explicit recommendation for the internal finish of the hull is not given, as far as I understand. The plans specify the boat only in strip planked technology. The adze in the picture is there by chance and was up to now not used for Romilly.

The molds of the jig will stay within the jig. After the hull is turned we will install the ply frames that are also used for the strip planked boat - at least in cockpit. Within the cabin, where space is so restricted, we will go for some leaner, laminated frames instead of the very stiff but rather space consuming ring frames sepcified in the plans.

Clinton B Chase

03-02-2009, 04:44 AM

For other considering Romilly the pre-milled "speed strip" is a cedar product made with a tongue-in-groove kind edge so the strips lock together. Faster planking and you would need as many molds because the strips help fair each other. Just an FYI.

Clint

James McMullen

03-02-2009, 10:01 AM

If I were going to build her, I think I'd adapt her for plywood lapstrake a la Oughtred. . . . .

But cold molded should be nice and strong and only take about four times as long.

Clinton B Chase

03-02-2009, 12:40 PM

There are some hulls that are better fit to smooth planked, and I think Romilly is one of those boats. Then again, I always thought Garden's Eel was also better suited to smooth sided and I almost choked when I saw a picture of one done lapstrake. I do think Romilly is best as smooth; the question is how...wood strip is great but you have to make darned sure that the fiberglass skins don't ever let any water in. I think of it as essentially a cored hull and those who have worked on classic plastic boats know what happens when water gets in!!! If I were to do the boat, I'd speed strip it. Thomas, I assume the plans say to sheath the whole outside with what 10oz cloth? Be wary that the outside layers will print through. If the outside layers are fore-aft it is a little less noticeable.

Clint

James McMullen

03-02-2009, 02:14 PM

Say, Clint, wouldn't it be nice to build one each way and then race 'em? Just lend me 10 or 15 grand and I'll get started on mine right away. :rolleyes:

zauberberg

03-02-2009, 02:34 PM

James,

Romilly as lap straked boat - very interesting. Bill Buchholz has build a lapstraked Romilly. If you read WB184 attentively you will find a photo of his boat. Great boat I think, although the mentioned photo doesn't give a good impression of the hull's asthetics.

Clint,

yes, I also see the strip-planked-and-glassed technology as essentially a wood core affair, or at least as a step towards it. Sheeting only outside is obviously only half the way to the goal, but for sure this adds more to the hull than only protection against abrasion. And in terms of added stiffness glassing the outside is probably more important than sheeting the inside. Paul Gartside discusses some of the pro's and con's of sheeting strip planked boats on his website.

I have seen in the Netherlands a strip planked Romilly glassed inside and outside with the additional cost of having to take out all the frames after the building process to get an uninterrupted internal surface to be glassed easily. The builder talked about this technology as a wooden core technology, and I would believe that the hull is both very stiff and long lived. What I don´t know is if the boat can take advantage of this increase in stiffness while sailing, or if the boatbuilder (and the boat) took advantage from this approach by decreasing thickness of the strips and reducing mass.

Romilly's plans call for outside sheeting of the strip planked hull with 300gsm glass. We will cold mold our hull - should it now be glassed? Maybe only up to the waterline as protection against wear? So may questions ... we will see.

Chan

03-02-2009, 03:41 PM

Clinton,
When was the last time you priced out speed strip@? Last time I did it was about $2.50 a lineal foot, I think it might be cheaper to bead and cove, but I like the idea of a solid core.
Zauberberg,
Looking good!

Chan

03-02-2009, 03:45 PM

Zauberberg,
Are you planning on using the ribbands just as a mold? Or are they going to be permanent?

donald branscom

03-02-2009, 06:01 PM

Boat disease is especially prevalent in the winter.

Looks good !

Clinton B Chase

03-02-2009, 07:02 PM

I would ask the architect about glassing the outside of the last set of veneers. I would do it, for sure. The whole outside in minimum 6oz cloth. Ask Ed Burnett. Not having seen plans, I did not realize the complication glassing the inside would bring. But I would do it. Glassing one side would be bad, I would think. My philosophy is a "balanced laminate" approach. Speed strip is expensive, but I'd pay it...fewer molds, faster planking...the expense works out from a pro's point of view. Major yard in Maine are using thousands of lineal feet of the stuff.

Clint

zauberberg

03-03-2009, 03:15 PM

Hello forumites,

here comes an update of the Romilly building process. The jig is finished now, ready to accept the first layer of 6mm Mahagony veneers.

A first shot of the jig in total...
http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj436/zauberberg_2009/Romilly/P1010434.jpg

... a view from astern ...
http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj436/zauberberg_2009/Romilly/P1010430.jpg

and a last photo to show the stem:
http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj436/zauberberg_2009/Romilly/P1010433.jpg

Ain't she beautiful?

PeterSibley

03-03-2009, 03:56 PM

Very much so ! Well done ! :)

Rob Hazard

03-03-2009, 05:48 PM

WOW, is that pretty! I will watch your progress with envy!
Question: How do you plan to clamp the second and third layers of veneer, staples or vacuum-bag?

Ed Armstrong

03-04-2009, 03:05 PM

beautiful indeed!

Paul Pless

03-04-2009, 03:18 PM

Ain't she beautiful?Yes she is!

http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj436/zauberberg_2009/Romilly/P1010430.jpg

What's the model in the upper left of this photo?

gert

03-04-2009, 04:42 PM

I love the image of boats at this stage; like houses that are only framed.

What is about a photo that makes us see?

Images like this show much more beauty than when your standing there.

Clinton B Chase

03-04-2009, 06:05 PM

Thomas, She is beautiful. This boat has been in my minds for a while...what a great family boat Romilly would make.

Some constructive feedback: in the last photo you post it looks like the ribbands closest to the keel are a little unfair as far as the line goes...they rise up close to the keel...maybe check these with a batten laid diagonally to make sure that the veneers will fair into the keelson.

Clint

Robmill0605

03-05-2009, 07:36 AM

Very nicely built. One tip which you may already know of. I built my hull cold molded and fooled around with staples in my layers..
You can use a plastic staple or nail from Raptor which stays in the hull, does not corrode, and does not damage edge tools. I wish I'd had found them BEFORE I laminated my hull. It would of saved a lot of labor. They are also available in colors like mahogany so they can be sanded or cut flush and are almost invisible.
Nice design, nice work, and welcome!

Clinton B Chase

03-05-2009, 03:18 PM

Great tip! Didn't know they could come wood colors, cool.

zauberberg

03-06-2009, 01:50 AM

Thank you all for and tips and hints, always very much appreciated.

Rob,

the veneeres will be tacked down / stapled. I will post pictures soon, as the process has already started.

The small boat in the background is a model of 30 ft sloop, wanderer class if I remember correctly, made for a customer who comissioned the boat.

Clinton B Chase

03-11-2009, 07:25 PM

Where are my pictures, mister

Mrleft8

03-11-2009, 08:49 PM

Nice.....................

zauberberg

03-13-2009, 04:05 PM

Here is a small update on our project. The first layers of mahagony veneers are fixed on the jig using staples, and are glued together along their edges. Not too much to see at this stadium, better photos will come.

http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj436/zauberberg_2009/Romilly/P1010435.jpg

http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj436/zauberberg_2009/Romilly/P1010436.jpg

Jim Ledger

03-13-2009, 04:33 PM

Very nice workmanship, and a lovely boat. Thanks.

tonydezoc

03-13-2009, 10:01 PM

couple more questions from me, what thickness veneer are you using, what method are you using to prevent the 1st layer from sticking to the building jig. Tony.

slidercat

03-14-2009, 01:20 PM

What beautiful workmanship!

Russ Manheimer

03-14-2009, 05:48 PM

terrific. If I ever put Sjogin out to pasture, Romily's on my list of perfect boats for the sailing I do.

zauberberg

03-23-2009, 07:32 AM

While the hull is taking shape - the first layer of veneers is almost completed - the project makes progress also on it's other tasks. The following photo shows the status of the manufacturer of the carbon spars (I hope you are not too disappopinted to find out that Romilly will be equipped with non wooden spars):

http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj436/zauberberg_2009/Romilly/PhotoLibrary-777.jpg

The photo shows from left to right on the table the end caps for the carbon tubes in Delrin together with the bronze hardware for the two masts and the bumpkin. The two dark things behind the end caps are two mast cones wich will serve as mast steps and will be epoxied in place.

Going on to the right you see the raw carbon spars: The main yard, the boom, the bumpkin, the mizzen yard and the mizzen mast. The main mast is not shown as it is too large to fit on the table! If you look at the mizzen mast you will notice it's cone shaped foot (still open), which will be stepped into the before mentioned mast cone.

The carbon tubes will be completed now and will then be painted: A two color design for the masts and the bumpkin (kind of ivory tone together with white ends), and a single white for the rest of the spars.

antipas

03-23-2009, 09:19 AM

Thomas
Nice looking boat,on the outside looks even nicer than the spv vesrsion.
The carbon masts look very similar to mine where these made by cocobe in holland?
keep up the good work,one of these days will send a pic of my boat nearing completion but still a long way to go.

zauberberg

03-23-2009, 09:52 AM

Kosta,

yes, my carbon spars are also from the Netherlands.

By the way: The boat is actually being build in Greece - a chance for an exchange of information on the various details of our boats that we should use!

antipas

03-25-2009, 11:03 AM

Hi Thomas

That's exciting having two romilly's being build in Greece.
Where about are u building?
Myself I using an old shed in Perama that used to be the place where all the boatyards where located building wooden working boats,but sadly not any more,Perama is west of the port Piraeus abt 5k.
Would love to come and see u boat being build and if ever in the country delighted to have show my place.
Enjoy the fun

stelios

03-25-2009, 02:46 PM

Hi Antipas.I'm glad to hear that you are building this nice boat here in Greece:).Post pictures!!!

zauberberg

03-26-2009, 01:42 PM

Kosta,

we should meet in Greece and discuss the details of our Romillys. Please check your email.

Clinton B Chase

03-29-2009, 09:09 AM

Good idea guys, and please take the time to share. Thanks.

Clint

zauberberg

04-14-2009, 05:06 AM

Dear formites,

I didn't post that much in the last weeks - nevertheless the work on the hull is proceeding well: The second layer is finished!
The pictures show this second layer of veneers, glued up in cross orientiation to the strips of the first layer:

http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj436/zauberberg_2009/Romilly/P1010500.jpg

http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj436/zauberberg_2009/Romilly/P1010498.jpg

The next step will be to glue up the last layer of veneers in a front-aft orienation. As we plan to finish the hull varnished we probably will change to vacuum bagging in this last step in order to avaoid any visible marks of mechanical fasteners. I will keep you posted!

Clinton B Chase

04-14-2009, 01:26 PM

Thomas. Awesome! What are the pencil lines drawn on the first layer? Are those gaps between planks on the first layer? Is glue filling them; did you scribe? Do the staples get good squeeze out from planks? Plastic staples.

Good idea about that last layer! That bag will make the last layer's glue lines tight too. Are you sheathing? Sorry about all the Q's.

Thanks, just curious!

John Meachen

04-14-2009, 04:03 PM

My guess is that the pencil lines indicate where the stringers are located.

zauberberg

04-15-2009, 02:03 AM

Clinton,

yes, John is right: The pencil lines mark the run of the battens of the building jig.

Theses lines are needed, as the veneers are screwed down temporarily by help of small wooden blocks in the glueing process. This is done at critical positions in addition to the used metal staples until the epoxy has cured, and ensures good fit to the mold (and epoxy squezze out). Potential small gaps in the first layer are filled while gluing up the second layer.

The following picture gives an impression of this process.

http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj436/zauberberg_2009/Romilly/P1010499.jpg

Clinton B Chase

04-19-2009, 04:09 PM

Thomas, Are you doing the plan that Ed Burnett arranged, with a boomed lug vs. a boomless thus doing away with a winch. What have you learned about the pros and cons of each. I see you are doing carbon spars...that's right you pictured the boom...so you are going that way. Do the plans show a wooden spar option? How are the plans?

Cheers,
Clint

zauberberg

04-20-2009, 03:02 AM

Clinton,

yes, Ed Burnett's plans specify the boomed mailsail version, and this is what I will go for also. I don't have any practical experience with the standing vs. the balanced lug, but I hear repeatedly that the boomed - i.e. balanced - lug sail will hold its shape better, especially under running conditions. You may also hear comments on the beneficial effect of the boom's downhawl - I think there was a thread in this forum covering this topic at lenghts. What this may be worth at the end of day in terms of speed I don't know - but I would not expect a dramatic effect from it. May be sombody with more experience may comment on this.

What seems clear to me on the other side is the increase in complexity of the boomed rig compared to the boomless variant: There are no wiches, but there is the boom itself, the reefing system on the boom, the downhall and the main sheet system.

Material: Ed Burnetts specifiys in his plans carbon as well as timber spars, hollow and made of DF. He also calculates the effect the heavier wooden spars have on the stability of the boat and concludes that using the lighter carbon spars compared to the heavier wooden ones is worth about half a reef in the mainsail. This effect together with the benefits a 20kg carbon mast (vs a 35 kg wooden one) offers in handling made the decision for me easy.

James McMullen

04-21-2009, 09:10 AM

I prefer a boom. Boomless sails never seem to take a very good shape off the wind--too much twist. I suppose that's what you get when your outhaul and your sheet are the exact same piece of string. The reefing system on the boom may add complexity to the boom itself, but it will sure add simplicity to your life when it comes time to actually put in a reef.

zauberberg

05-12-2009, 07:49 AM

The third layer of the hull is on the way, orientation is forward aft. Most of this work is done now, remaining only the domain under the waterline to be finished.

The hull will be varnished and therefore the veneers will be visible on the completed boat. This is the reason why the strips are lined out in a “plank like fashion” to give an appropriate boat like impression.

The transom at this status is still raw ply, and will also get it’s layers of mahogany veneers. In deviation to the original plans the transom is very slightly curved, also for aesthetical reasons.

http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj436/zauberberg_2009/Romilly/P5080044-1.jpg

http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj436/zauberberg_2009/Romilly/P5080048.jpg

http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj436/zauberberg_2009/Romilly/P5080046.jpg

http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj436/zauberberg_2009/Romilly/P5080049.jpg

Paul Pless

05-12-2009, 10:13 AM

This is the reason why the strips are lined out in a “plank like fashion” to give an appropriate boat like impression.Oh... I think this build has plenty of 'appropriate boat like impression' going on... :)

Thanks for the update. She's a beauty.

44xt

05-12-2009, 01:13 PM

Thank you for posting pictures of your build, they have been a great inspiration to me.
I am convinced after years of research and reading that this is the best approach to building a one-off boat utilizing an epoxy encapsulated wood hull intended to be trailered or left out of the water for a long period of time. I know of a hull built this way that is thirty years old and looks fabulous and is still structurally sound. This boat could be sold at a fair price today and be used for many more years. Yes, it is labour intensive for an amateur, but for me, the build process is a huge part of why I am building a boat, so why would I want to take shortcuts?
It takes a huge number of hours out of ones life to construct a boat of reasonable size in ones backyard. It only seems prudent that it would maintain some value at the end of it all.

I am going to post your pictures on my shop wall to spur me on.

neilm

05-13-2009, 11:30 AM

Beautiful boat! And thanks for the nice cold molded photos. I've always wondered about that technique. How did you make the veneers?

Neil

zauberberg

06-04-2009, 04:56 AM

Neil,

the veneers are not made by the boatbuilder - they simply are sourced from the local supplier in the appropriate dimensions.

In the meantime the cold molded hull is finished. The ply transom also got its layer of veneers - and is looking quite nasty at this state, as the veneers are not yet cut back to the upper transom contour.

http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj436/zauberberg_2009/Romilly/DSC01825.jpg

http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj436/zauberberg_2009/Romilly/DSC01831.jpg

http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj436/zauberberg_2009/Romilly/DSC01829.jpg

Starts to look like a boat! The odd looking alignment of the veneers that can be seen on the last picture is restricted to the area under the waterline and will therefore disappear under the antifouling.

Current work now focuses on the builing of the model for the lead keel and the lead casting itself. More to come hopefully in the next couple of days!

zauberberg

07-12-2009, 04:58 AM

Bump! Still alive, but going (too) slowly at the moment. Nevertheless, here are 3 photos from the actual situation:

The model for the modified lead ballast has been build and adjusted to the boat's keel:
http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj436/zauberberg_2009/P1010652.jpg
The mentioned modification made to the ballast is a cut off at the lead's aft end together with an addition to it's front end to balance the weight of the small inboard diesel that will be installed later.

Next photo is a view into the casting mould. Casting is planned to take place next week.
http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj436/zauberberg_2009/P1010650.jpg

Building of the deadwood also has started: The mahogany assembly has been glued up and is waiting for shaping.
http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj436/zauberberg_2009/P1010646.jpg

In the meantime I am thinking of the main sheet system. I want to use wooden blocks for the boat - and therefore will not have access to a block-jammer combination to belay the main sheet (standard solution for dinghies)

Is anyone familiar with the wooden "hackblocks", as they are called in german,
http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj436/zauberberg_2009/tbn_11744111.jpg
used to belay the sheet directly at the block, or is an ordinary cleat to belay the main sheet the way to go? Input appreciated!

zauberberg

08-13-2009, 02:54 PM

So nobody knows this funny wooden block? I think I have seen in somewhere in The Netherlands before, but I don't know if it is in regular use elsewhere in the world.

In the meanwhile here are some new photos of Romilly.

Glassing of the hull has started: A first row of glass cloth was layed down to about the waterline; a second row of fabric then will encapsulate the rest of the hull incl. the deadwood/keel assembly, that still awaits its assembly on the keelson:

http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj436/zauberberg_2009/Romilly1.jpg

http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj436/zauberberg_2009/Romilly2.jpg

The hull just looks incredibly at this phase: I can't stop looking and touching it! And right now I am very happy that I decided not to paint the hull, but to to go for the varnished look. Maybe in 3 years time I will think differently about this!

Parallel to glassing the lead keel was casted. A bath-tube-set-up was heated up with an infernal fire,

http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj436/zauberberg_2009/Guss3.jpg

a pile of scrap lead (near-ancient water tubes made of lead!) was melted down

http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj436/zauberberg_2009/Scrap.jpg

and found it's down to the open cast form:

http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj436/zauberberg_2009/Guss2.jpg

What a process, and what a spectacle! I only hope the form held its shape well during casting - as quite some bubbles did show up while the hot metal was poured into the form. We will know in three days time!

SBrookman

08-13-2009, 10:53 PM

What a great build, keep the pictures coming...possibly a bit larger. You have to be excited, must be roll over time soon!

frank101

08-18-2009, 05:30 AM

Is anyone familiar with the wooden "hackblocks", as they are called in german,
http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj436/zauberberg_2009/tbn_11744111.jpg
used to belay the sheet directly at the block, or is an ordinary cleat to belay the main sheet the way to go? Input appreciated!

Try http://www.ording-blokken.nl/eng/index.html

In Holland these blocks are commonly used as mainsheet and backstay blocks on traditional barges.

Regards,

Frank

zauberberg

09-12-2009, 12:54 PM

Yes, Frank, thank you, this is what I have heard of these blocks: Commonly used in the Netherland on Barges. Maybe Romilly is a little small for such a block?

Steve, the last photos were indeed a little small; therefore another shot of the hull to admire the lines :D:

http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj436/zauberberg_2009/Romilly1-1.jpg

Some progress was made in the meantime: The lead was broke out from the mold and received some minor cosmetics; the holes for the keel bolts were drilled into the lead. The centerboard slot was cut into the boat and the complete assembly from outer stem to lead and deadwood was dry fitted on the boat. All wooden parts are glued down now and are secured with fittings.

http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj436/zauberberg_2009/lead.jpg

http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj436/zauberberg_2009/dryfit.jpg

http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj436/zauberberg_2009/keel.jpg

In the meantime some first parts and fittings arrived ...

http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj436/zauberberg_2009/P1000341.jpg

Next steps will be machining the rest of the lead keal (centerboard pin hole), bedding / mounting of the lead, glassing the remaining part of the hull and then: Turn over time!

zauberberg

09-12-2009, 12:59 PM

... and one last pic of the stem assembly just before glueing / screwing down:

http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj436/zauberberg_2009/stern.jpg

Candyfloss

09-12-2009, 02:49 PM

Thomas, what are you going to do with the glass at the sheer line?

Larks

09-12-2009, 06:20 PM

Looking great Thomas, interesting to see them lay the lead on her while she is still inverted, she must be very strongly built to hold it like that.

Also I can't wait to see her right side up to see that sheer line, it looks very nice indeed!!

peter radclyffe

09-12-2009, 07:20 PM

strangehttp://www.woodenboat.com/forum/images/icons/icon5.gif,
but lovely workhttp://www.woodenboat.com/forum/images/icons/icon14.gif

Dave Gray

09-12-2009, 07:57 PM

This is beautiful work, Thomas. You are making good progress! When do you estimate she will be launched?

P.L.Lenihan

09-13-2009, 03:18 AM

WOW! Nice stuff indeed! However, I would have expected the hull to be completely glassed, at least up to the water line, before the lead ballast was bedded down in somethng good-n-thick and for the lead to go on once the boat was righted. But your way appears to work well too!

Cheers!

Peter

zauberberg

09-13-2009, 04:34 AM

Stop! Return! Reset!

Obviously the nearness of the so long awaited moment of turning the hull has also turned something within my mind! Turning the hull with the mounted ballast is something that even we would consider as, ehm, special.

Of course it's the other way round: First turning, and then ballasting. I will prove it with pics!

P.L.Lenihan

09-13-2009, 04:42 AM

(breathing a sigh of relief!)

zauberberg

09-13-2009, 05:05 AM

Two neurons are still 100% more than one - proof see above.

Larks

09-13-2009, 06:16 AM

Ah yes, sorry mate, you did say "dry fitted", we just got all excited!

frank101

09-23-2009, 05:13 AM

Yes, Frank, thank you, this is what I have heard of these blocks: Commonly used in the Netherland on Barges. Maybe Romilly is a little small for such a block?

The blocks are used on every traditional wooden boat in Holland; from 'tjotter' (app. 5 mtr 16th century daysailor) to 'klipper' (app. 30 mtr 19th century river freighter) plus the replica's of 17th and 18th century VOC-ships (e.g. http://www.bataviawerf.nl/). Only things in common between these boats are: wood and built on frames. The blocks are made in every size you want to have them.
Contact Ording or Bataviawerf for more information.

Looking at the design of Romilly I would not use these blocks; but that's only my personal view. You may want to consult Ed Burnett for advice.

Regards,

Frank

zauberberg

09-24-2009, 09:11 AM

zauberberg

09-24-2009, 09:14 AM

... and more:

http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj436/zauberberg_2009/romily2292009020.jpg

http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj436/zauberberg_2009/romily2292009021.jpg

Doesn't look as dramatic as one could/should expect from theory, what do you think?

Clinton B Chase

10-01-2009, 08:34 AM

Thomas, Truly great to see her that way. When we built the 27'ers at the Landing School we turned them over with most of the structure in....I think it was a good call...and there isn't that much ballast, much easier to fit upside down and install. With using the lift system to turn it it was a fine decision.

So she'll have a varnished sheerstrake? Lovely! I'm watching this build with hope to do one ourselves.

RFNK

10-02-2009, 03:11 AM

Candyfloss, the first "plank" at the sheer line is thicker than the rest of the hull, as you may see (perhaps) from one of the photos. We didn't want to glass over the resulting step in thickness as we expected, that this would tend to smear over this desired feature. As a result this plank is not glassed (yet), as you have noticed. We could glass this part seperately, or leave it unglassed and carve something nice into the plank - what would you do?

Thomas, what a great boat and what a beautiful job you're doing with it! I couldn't help noticing your question to Candyfloss (Graeme) as the situation reminded of something on my Folkboat. I'm going to butt in with an answer - Graeme's a Kiwi so he's probably out somewhere digging up kumera or catching whitebait for dinner anyway. On the Folkboat, I have a rubbing strip that I left square to the planking at its lower edge. The problem with this is that all water from the deck flows down over the strip and as a consequence I always have streaks of dirt from dust down the white hull. I should have cut a groove into the lower edge of the strip to cause the water to drip from there instead of running over onto the hull. I'll probably add a `drip strip' instead to cure the problem. Anyway, the point is, lots of water flows off the deck and runs down the hull, even with toerails etc. If you leave the glass sheathing edge up against that proud sheer plank of yours, won't you be at risk of the water flowing under the edge? I note that you said you were considering glassing that top plank anyway so I want to suggest that i think this would be a good idea since you have the glass over the rest of the hull. In this way you can have the glass over the sheer plank running over and covering the edge of the sheathing you already have so there's no edge to trap water. You can the also run your deck sheathing over onto the glass over the sheer plank so that deck water will always be running over edges that are already buried, so to speak. If you're adding a rubbing strip on the sheer plank, you can hide the edge of the deck sheathing under the rubbing strip. Maybe Graeme will get back from hunting and gethering at some point and answer your question properly but I hope you don't mind me throwing these thoughts in. Your hull looks beautiful! Rick

zauberberg

10-02-2009, 06:57 AM

Rick,

thank you for your remarks - gives me certainly something to think of.

The principal situation at the hull-deck joint is as follows:

http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj436/zauberberg_2009/hull-deck.jpg

The hull extends over the deck level and needs therefore openings for the water wanting to leave the deck. There is a rail cap on top the hull's shell, and a (potential) rub rail just below deck level.

Your advice would be (if I understand correctly), to shape the rub rail in way to build up a drop-off edge at the rail's lower side. This probabely would lead to some rectangle- or quarter-circle-shaped profile. I will see.

Running the glass of the sheer plank over to the deck will not work, as you may see from the ketch. The analogous measure probably would be running the glass from the deck up the hull's inside for an inch or so. Right?

And another detail: If I will glass the "shear plank", the following cutting of openings for the water will generate a situation, where water (leaving the deck through these openings) flows over "end-grain" glass - probably not the best situation. Glassing over the plank with the openings cut, and trying to fumble glass into the openings? I don't know either. And what about a carved ornament in the shearplank - doesn't like glass, neither before nor afterwards. Maybe I shouldn't glass the shear plank at all then!

Candyfloss

10-02-2009, 03:04 PM

I think it would be best not to glass the sheer plank. Poking glass thru holes like that is messy, difficult & usually pretty ineffective. Getting a bit of your deck glass thru the scupper should be fairly doable though. We can discuss how to finish your deck glass another day.
If you lower your rubrail just a little & rebate the upper part of it to accommodate the extra thickness of the sheer strake, it will cover the edge of the hull glass & seal it all off nicely which was what was causing me concern. And you could mold a hollow into the bottom of the rubrail to act as a drip strip & keep the deck wash-off from running down your beautiful hull as Rick suggested. It does not have to run the full length of the rubrail, just the portion from in front of the forward scupper, to aft of the lowest point on the sheer.
What an innovative way to turn your boat over! The big overhead gantry sure makes a whole heap of things easier.
The whitebait were delicious thank you Rick.

Eric D

10-02-2009, 03:38 PM

I agree with Candyfloss on the addition of a drip line to the BOTTOM of the rub rail, only 1/8" is really needed, just something to break the water tension and get water to drip from there instead of coming all the way down the hull and more importantly, staying up against the joint on the underside of the rub rail.

Beautiful work, shows there are many ways to skin the cat!!

RFNK

10-04-2009, 08:47 PM

I agree with Candyfloss and Eric re the drip arrangement on the rubbing strip and I think Candyfloss' idea of running the sheathing up under the sheer plank makes sense. if you can't do that then you may be able to create a fillet between the sheer plank and the rest of the hull and cover the glass edge in this way. I didn't realize that the hull ran up above the edge of the deck. Given that, I agree that taking the deck sheathing a little way up the inside of the sheer plank would be the right way to go. As your sheer plank will have scuppers built into it I also agree that it would be best not to glass the sheer plank. Rick

zauberberg

01-07-2010, 06:41 AM

Here is a update of Romilly's build.

Little progress was made during the last months; nevertheless I thought some may be interested in also the smaller steps.

Here is an overall shot of the boat's current status:
http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj436/zauberberg_2009/Romilly/total2.jpg
The deck beams were made, and some of them are already installed.
Floors were glued in (view into the cuddy)
http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj436/zauberberg_2009/Romilly/cabin.jpg

and also the centerboard case was installed:
http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj436/zauberberg_2009/Romilly/cockpit2.jpg
The engine rests (for show only) on its supports
http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj436/zauberberg_2009/Romilly/motor.jpg

and work on the aft deck and compartment is in progress:
http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj436/zauberberg_2009/aft.jpg

piobia

01-07-2010, 04:49 PM

What type of engine is it?

zauberberg

01-08-2010, 12:56 AM

piobia,

the engine is a Nanni 2.14, a marinized Kubota 2 cylinder Diesel with 14hp at 3600 rpm from 480 cm^3 displacement. Power is far more than needed, but the difference in both volume and mass compared to the smallest Yanmar 1 cyl motor was not that great, so I decided for the hopefully smoother running 2 cyl engine.

bucheron

01-08-2010, 05:14 AM

Try http://www.ording-blokken.nl/eng/index.html

In Holland these blocks are commonly used as mainsheet and backstay blocks on traditional barges.

Regards,

Frank

This looks like a development of a technique called "jamming the falls" where the tail of the tackle is jammed between the body of the block and one of the parts where the part exits. That part needs to be pulled sideways to make the jamming space. The illustration on the first page of the Ording-blokken site seems to show that, in conjunction with the hook "hak?" of the block.

I want one.

P.L.Lenihan

01-10-2010, 09:25 PM

http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj436/zauberberg_2009/Romilly/total2.jpg

What a stunning photo Thomas!! You keep posting pictures like that and I'll start having dreams of building one too. What a gorgeous hull shape! Have you found yourself transfixed for moments on end staring at her? I know I've blown countless minutes here looking at that hull and marvelling at its' shape!!

Continued success with your build!!!

Cheers!

Peter

Peter Malcolm Jardine

01-10-2010, 09:35 PM

A lovely shape, beautiful work.

zauberberg

01-11-2010, 02:59 AM

Peter,

yes, the boat has wonderful lines, and looking at the hull and sliding your hand over it is a very emotional experience. The perception also changed, when the boat was flipped over: When she was still upside down it was this remarkable belly, that fascinated me most. Even my daughter, 10 years old and not very much devoted to boats or sailing, was then mesmerized by the sheer shape of the hull and told me "the boat is so beautiful, it looks like a pregnant whale". Now, turned over, it´s more her sheerline, the bow and the transom, that keeps you looking at her. Wonderful, I feel priviledged and grateful.

zauberberg

01-12-2010, 11:11 AM

... and one more picture to admire her lines

http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj436/zauberberg_2009/Romilly/P1000998.jpg

The Bigfella

01-12-2010, 04:29 PM

Lovely.

PeterSibley

01-12-2010, 04:40 PM

Thanks for all this , quite an education in cold moulding and lovely as well !

Trawlercap

01-21-2010, 02:29 PM

Keep up the good work. I love this from Nigel's site......:)

“draft is so important ……. I’ve always found it an amusing paradox that the richer you are , the bigger your boat, the more it draws, and the fewer places it can take you” §

zauberberg

04-15-2010, 09:27 AM

Hi everybody,

time for an update of my Romilly. There was quite a bit of progress made in the last months, and I will try to show you the highlights of the status reached so far without too many comments.

First a couple of shots of the teak work: We decided to use teak for the deck as well as for the cockpit benches, the hatch and the rail cap:

Some photos of the hatch in progress:
http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj436/zauberberg_2009/P1010319.jpg

http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj436/zauberberg_2009/deck4.jpg

http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj436/zauberberg_2009/P1010345.jpg

and now some views of the overall deck and cockpit:

The fore deck with the main mast cone (yet to be trimmed)

http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj436/zauberberg_2009/deck5.jpg

the cokpit in progress

http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj436/zauberberg_2009/deck1.jpg

http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj436/zauberberg_2009/deck2.jpg

to be continued ...

James McMullen

04-15-2010, 09:32 AM

Looking first rate, Thomas! What are you using for your seam caulking? I've been using a product called TDS lately that I like as much (and as little) as any of them, but I'm interested to know what others have been satisfied with.

zauberberg

04-15-2010, 09:33 AM

...

http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj436/zauberberg_2009/deck2.jpg

the aft deck with the mizzen mast cone and part of the cockpit:

http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj436/zauberberg_2009/cockpit8.jpg

http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj436/zauberberg_2009/cockpit2.jpg

http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj436/zauberberg_2009/cockpit1.jpg

http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj436/zauberberg_2009/cockpit3.jpg

and an overview of the cockpit so far:

http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj436/zauberberg_2009/cockpit4.jpg

zauberberg

04-15-2010, 09:43 AM

Now some details of the varnished hull, nearly finished. Waterline, anti skid cabin roof and inside of the overstanding hull (???) finished in cream:

http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj436/zauberberg_2009/hull2.jpg

http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj436/zauberberg_2009/hull4.jpg

http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj436/zauberberg_2009/hull5.jpg

and again an overview from above with the mizzen sticked:

http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj436/zauberberg_2009/hull6.jpg

http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj436/zauberberg_2009/hull9.jpg

...

zauberberg

04-15-2010, 09:48 AM

Some details now.

Coaming:

http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj436/zauberberg_2009/hull7.jpg

holes for bull eyes

http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj436/zauberberg_2009/hull8.jpg

panama fairleds and roller

http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj436/zauberberg_2009/hull3.jpg

belaying pins

http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj436/zauberberg_2009/cockpit7.jpg

...

zauberberg

04-15-2010, 09:55 AM

Now the rudder, also massive mahogany:

http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj436/zauberberg_2009/rudder2.jpg

http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj436/zauberberg_2009/rudder3.jpg

http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj436/zauberberg_2009/rudder4.jpg

The tiller was also roughly cut and sticked in the rudder to give a first impression of the overall proportions:

http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj436/zauberberg_2009/rudder5.jpg

Quite a long piece of wood!

...

zauberberg

04-15-2010, 10:02 AM

What else do I have? A shot of the prop

http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj436/zauberberg_2009/prop1.jpg

and a look from inside the cuddy out

http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj436/zauberberg_2009/int2.jpg

and a second detail of the cockpit:

http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj436/zauberberg_2009/Int1.jpg

I couldn't resisit to set the mizzen:
http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj436/zauberberg_2009/hull9.jpg

That was it for now. Splashing will be in 6 weeks!

mcdenny

04-15-2010, 11:08 AM

Just gorgeous, a real work of art. Can't wait for the sailing pictures.

Ed Armstrong

04-15-2010, 12:35 PM

Beautiful! I'm drooling all over my desk.

Ed

jboats

04-15-2010, 12:57 PM

Wow!

gert

04-15-2010, 02:26 PM

Imagine owning the most beautiful Romilly in the world...

Larks

04-15-2010, 04:30 PM

Absolutely gorgeous!!
Is that a Variprop?

zauberberg

04-19-2010, 04:17 AM

James,

the product for seam caulking is FixTech's Teak Seal MSP100. It is used here for years and seems to work well for the set of conditions found here in Greece.

Larks,

nearly right, the prop is a VariProfile. Compared to the VariProp from the same company, Variprofile is the newer product, has new blade profiles and a thinner hub, but builds considerably longer. (It is originally intented for modern keelless yachts with a free propeller under the hull, where installation length is not a problem; but as it could be integrated into the existing space I nevertheless wanted it for the Romilly: Lower drag and better efficiency)

P.L.Lenihan

04-19-2010, 04:54 AM

You just gotta know that boat will be breaking alot of hearts each time she enters a marina or yacht club. Just looking at her from behind my desk is almost breaking my own and she ain't even launched yet!

Continued good work on her Thomas!!

Cheers!

Peter, the tearful.......

peter radclyffe

04-19-2010, 11:12 AM

yeah great stuff

Clinton B Chase

05-23-2010, 08:12 PM

Thomas, Great progress.

The cavity between the keel/skeg and rudder, was that designed from the outside to house a prop? I figure 'yes' but was wondering as I look at Romilly again.

James McMullen

05-23-2010, 08:20 PM

Clint, I think the "stock" Romilly is designed to fit an outboard motor through a well in that gap betwixt skeg and rudder, something Thomas has superceded with the inboard installation instead.

James McMullen

05-23-2010, 08:25 PM

Hey Thomas, I just realized that your Nanni diesel, which is based on a marinized Kubota block, is awfully similar in size, shape and concept to the Beta diesel I just bought for the Stone Horse, which I think is based on the exact same two-cylinder Kubota engine block. Neat-o! I'll be very interested to see what you choose for muffler and fuel tanks and whatnot, since I'll be in the same boat myself coming up soon.

zauberberg

05-25-2010, 04:12 AM

Clint,

yes, the original plans show a motor well in the cockpit for a 5hp Honda outboard, that places the propeller in between the skeg and the rudder. The concept then is to take the ob out when sailing, stowe it in the cockpit, and close the well with some plug to minimze drag. Cumbersome operation IMHO. I therefore voted for spoiling the cockpit space with a box for an inboard diesel. The skeg's trailing edge was adjusted for the propeller now coming through the deadwood, but except of this nothing else was changed there. Room for opimization?

James,

yes, the small Nanni and Beta motors based on the 2 cylinder Kubota look very similar! I have a Vetus water lubricated stern gear, used the mixer that came with the motor, and will try a wodden/epoxy fuel tank. I am not totally conviced of this approach, though I know the Gougeon brothers have proposed it in their book. Time will tell whether this was a wise decision!

zauberberg

06-06-2010, 06:40 AM

Folks,

this thread is coming to an end. Romilly was launched last week, and I'm happy to share some photos with you.

With (nearly) all systems on board, the boat was put on a trailer and rolled gently out of the shed. Here she can be seen for the first time in bright daylight:

http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj436/zauberberg_2009/outoftheshed1.jpg

http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj436/zauberberg_2009/outoftheshed2.jpg

And off we went for the beach. Stepping the carbon masts was a child's game, and then she was pushed into the sea:

http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj436/zauberberg_2009/preparing.jpg

Seeing her on the mole later proofed that she was floating nicely on her lines. That made me particularly happy, as we changed her ballast quite significantly to correct for the inboard diesel.

http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj436/zauberberg_2009/lines-1.jpg

Later that day I rigged her up

http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj436/zauberberg_2009/sail1.jpg

http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj436/zauberberg_2009/sail2.jpg

....

Paul Pless

06-06-2010, 06:56 AM

Gorgeous!

zauberberg

06-06-2010, 07:08 AM

...

Here is shot into the hoisted main. Looks good!

http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj436/zauberberg_2009/sail3.jpg

We went for a first sailing trip on the next day

http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj436/zauberberg_2009/deck-1.jpg

and I'm happy to report that she performs beautifully so far. Lowering the centerboard turns the otherwise livley small craft into a very stable affair, giving the feeling of a small yacht. She tacks very reliably, also at very low speeds, and slips along nicely at very little wind: I logged 4 knots in felt 2 to 3 Beauforts of wind. The feathering prop works yery well: The boat makes about 5,6 knots at 2000 rpm, and stopping up is a pleasure.

At the end of the day we found a double rainbow over the boat: Isn't this nice?
http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj436/zauberberg_2009/rainbow-1.jpg

We also made some photos showing her from outside while sailing, but I don't have them yet. I'll post them as soon as they are availiable.

What else can I show you? Some last photos of her lying at the mole after the first sea trials:

http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj436/zauberberg_2009/mole5-1.jpg

http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj436/zauberberg_2009/mole4-1.jpg

http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj436/zauberberg_2009/mole2-1.jpg

StevenBauer

06-06-2010, 07:08 AM

Gorgeous!

She sure is! Stunning. You must be very pleased.

Steven

zauberberg

06-06-2010, 07:09 AM

And did I show you the deck prisms?

http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj436/zauberberg_2009/fordeck-1.jpg

Sailor

06-06-2010, 07:11 AM

Beautiful!

Clinton B Chase

06-06-2010, 07:33 AM

And did I show you the deck prisms?

http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj436/zauberberg_2009/fordeck-1.jpg

OK, now you've really surpassed expectations. Awesome.

gert

06-06-2010, 10:56 AM

Exactly as expected: the world's most beautiful Romilly.
Congratulations.

Clinton B Chase

06-06-2010, 11:26 AM

...

We went for a first sailing trip on the next day

http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj436/zauberberg_2009/deck-1.jpg

and I'm happy to report that she performs beautifully so far. Lowering the centerboard turns the otherwise livley small craft into a very stable affair, giving the feeling of a small yacht.

It seems like the sail is setting on leeward side of mast but boom is on windward side...strange? What is going on? It is a balance lugsail, right?

Centerboard: is yours the steel plate encased in ply, shaped to a foil?

zauberberg

06-06-2010, 02:31 PM

Clinton,

the photo is fooling you: Both boom and sail are to windward. What you see is not the mast but the mast's shade, falling onto the sail from behind.

The centerboard consists of a core plate from 12mm mild steel (partially reinforced where a SS boss is welded in to bear the pin), packed into ply, streamlined to a NACA00 series profile, covered with 2 layers of glass and antifouling. The resulting package is so hard and dense, if you knock at it with your fingers it sounds as if it was made from solid aluminium.

Ed Armstrong

06-07-2010, 10:53 AM

Congratulations! She is truly lovely.

Ed

zauberberg

06-07-2010, 11:10 AM

Hi folks,

I just got the first sailing pics of Romilly. Please have a look, I hope you like them as much as I do:

http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj436/zauberberg_2009/LAN_9710.jpg

http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj436/zauberberg_2009/LAN_9692.jpg

http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj436/zauberberg_2009/ACT_9629.jpg

http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj436/zauberberg_2009/ACT_9663.jpg

Me thinks, with these sailing pics this thread is finished now.

Thank you all for your interest and input. And hopefully I will have in near future the opportunity to post some nice sailing adventures in the people/places forum.

All the best

Ed Burnett

06-07-2010, 11:11 AM

Well done Thomas, she looks great. I am glad the weights worked out ok.

Just one thing that draws my eye - that lower block on your main downhaul tackle really isn't very happy with the line leading away like that. Generally with tackles that have the hauling part leading off the to the side, it is better to have a separate single block for the hauling part that can find the right angle to give a fair lead. You will get much more precise and easier adjustment if you can improve that a bit.

Hope you are having fun getting the hang of things.

ED.

antipas

06-08-2010, 04:52 AM

Thomas
Anna Sofia is a beaty,happy sailings.
let me know if u ever come to the Kyklades.
(hoping to have my Romilly afloat next year)
all the best
antipas

Duncan Gibbs

06-08-2010, 05:22 AM

Stunning work Thomas! I hope we see LOTS of pictures of your voyages around the Greek Islands. :)

chuckt

06-08-2010, 07:34 AM

Wow! Congrats. Beautiful boat--enjoy!

Clinton B Chase

06-09-2010, 05:49 AM

Thomas, I see that I was tricked. Ok, thought I was going crazy there for a minute.

I am intrigued by the ply-steel centerboard as a way to get both the ballast effect without losing a foil shape. I'm designing a 20' daysailor with an NA (Vivier) and would like to think about this approach. Any pictures of this assembly?

zauberberg

06-11-2010, 04:14 AM

Ed,

thanks for the tip regarding the downhaul block. There are quite a lot of things that are in need for optimization - I'll take my time and do them all!

antipas,

I'll give you a note when I'll be around. Kyklades probably are not the type of waters Romilly is made for, but I'm thinking of east peloponissos for next year - maybe a chance to meet then and there. This summer I'll fokus on pagasitikos. You are welcome there any time. Just give me a note.

Clinton,

No, unfortunately therer is no good photo of the open centerboard assembly. But it's a simple affair, as I described above. I don't want to publish the drawings of the centerboard as theses are IP of Ed Burnett and therefore suggest to ask him directly on the details of interest.