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gjewel
01-28-2009, 03:53 PM
Hello
Sorry for any newbie questions but I'm in need of some direction.
I have an old penguin that I would like to use as guinea pig boat for building wood boat skills. The Chine on the port side is gone. So should I strip the boat to the frame and work from the outside to replace this?

http://gallery.me.com/gjewel/100020/IMG_3008/web.jpg

In the case below this is where the Centerboard truck attaches. I would have to tap out each screw where they rusted out. Any good advice on how to do this?
Also does it look like the Keel is shot, this is the worst part?
http://gallery.me.com/gjewel/100020/IMG_3022/web.jpg

Thanks for any advice?

lofting4fun
01-28-2009, 10:25 PM
Hiya! ,
I think we need more pics,a pic of the whole boat, port starboard etc will help...then lets start by where to begin, Regards, James:)

rbgarr
01-29-2009, 05:21 AM
I had a Penguin with many fewer problems than what little I see there. The boats are very lightly built and there's not much 'beef', i.e., thickness of good wood to refasten into and mate to when refitting. The rig and centerboard put quite a strain on the boat, and it looks like your centerboard box is shot. Mine had a leak around the centerboard box and a small split in the keel. I could have replaced the whole keel and put in a new, stiffer centerboard box but it wasn't worth it to me even though the rest of the boat was in very good shape. I sold it for what I bought it for ($500) to someone in the Annaplois fleet who was thrilled to get it.

My opinion about your situation? Were it my boat I would not put any time or money into it unless you did not want to sail it and just make it into a row boat. (It just occurred to me that maybe sailing isn't an option anyway and I'm overthinking this. You haven't mentioned a rig, rudder, etc.) Even then it will take more patching up than it might be worth as far as making it a dry, non-leaky boat.

gjewel
01-30-2009, 04:23 PM
Hello

I would like to sail it, if possible in the end. It did not come with any rig or rudder. I would like to tinker around with this boat AS a skills building wood practice boat. It is small and of a simple design, If I screw it up then no harm or foul since it was shot to begin with. So even if it is a total redo that would be OK. I tend to learn skills by taking things a part, repair what is broken and reassymble from there. From that knowledge I find I´m ahead of the curve when starting things from scratch. so I´m a newbie to wood boats. I will post more pictures once I´m back in the country.
Thanks for your help.

gjewel
02-13-2009, 08:58 PM
Hello

I just took a bunch of pictures, here is the link to the gallery.
http://gallery.me.com/gjewel#100028

Please let me know what course of action you might advise?
Remember I want use this boat as a primer boat to see if I have that knack for wood boats.
I'm detail oriented and like a challenge, so it doesn't matter of I can get one cheaper, what does matter is that if I mess this one up who cares.

Thank you

RodB
02-13-2009, 10:24 PM
You can buy a Penguin in decent shape for a very reasonable price...

The Pics you are showing is a scrap heap... don't waste your time..

I was going to restore a similar boat for someone...but although the hull was in better shape than yours... the hull was to be completely replaced.

Pick up a sound used boat for a very reasonable price... and make her like new...

RodB

bob winter
02-14-2009, 05:52 AM
This is one tired boat. Anything can be repaired but the repair in this case would involve using the existing boat as patterns for a new hull.

Raka025
02-14-2009, 07:55 AM
Any new build would give you the same skills that you are looking for without the added workload of taking this apart. If you are going to take your time to break this down and rebuild, is it the type of boat that you really want and want to keep as an heirloom? It will be a new boat when you are done and starting from scratch is a lot easier. You could spend the extra time researching boat designs!! Almost as much fun as building one.

gjewel
02-14-2009, 12:15 PM
OK
I give, I'll start looking for designs for a small wood sailing vessel, to jump into.
14' and under, any suggestions for one for a newbie.

Thanks for all the advice.

RodB
02-14-2009, 12:27 PM
Heck,,, find a decent wooden Lightning and make her a show piece... very stable, fast, can take lots of people and you should be able to buy her with a trailer for around $2000 plus or minus.

R