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Norman Bernstein
01-21-2009, 08:35 AM
Here's a good reminder to take what's written in the papers with a grain of salt:



Here’s what the pundits had to say two years ago when Barack Obama announced he was running for President:

“Illinois Senator Barack Obama’s announcement this week that he’s likely to enter the Presidential race adds a dash of glamour and excitement to the Democratic field. But all of his media attention doesn’t change the basic truth of the 2008 primary contest: The race is between Hillary Rodham Clinton and everybody else.” -The Wall Street Journal Editorial Board, Jan. 18, 2007.

“To the surprise of many whites and dismay of his supporters, Barack Obama trailed Hillary Clinton among black Americans by a 40-point margin in a recent Washington Post-ABC poll… The sad truth… is that Obama is being rejected because many black Americans don’t consider him one of their own and may even feel threatened by what he embodies.” -Orlando Patterson, Time.com, Feb. 8, 2007.

“Ask yourself, is there any other major public figure who dresses the way [Obama] does? Why, yes. It is Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, who, unlike most of his predecessors, seems to have skipped through enough copies of ‘GQ’ to find the jacket-and-no-tie look agreeable. And maybe that’s not the comparison a possible presidential contender really wants to evoke… Now, it is one thing to have a last name that sounds like Osama and a middle name, Hussein, that is probably less than helpful. But an outfit that reminds people of a charter member of the axis of evil, why, this could leave his presidential hopes hanging by a thread. Or is that threads?” -CNN Senior Analyst Jeff Greenfield, “The Situation Room,” CNN, Dec. 11, 2006.

“The country will simply not elect a novice in wartime… [Obama] only has to do reasonably well in the primaries to become such a compelling national figure as to be invited onto the ticket as vice presidential nominee… Then, if the Democrats win, he will have all the foreign policy credentials he needs for life.” -Charles Krauthammer, Oct. 27, 2006.

“That Sen. Barack Hussein Obama Jr. chose the day of ‘American Idol’s’ season premiere to launch his presidential exploratory committee is nicely symbolic. If this were a contest about looks and style, Obama might have an edge. If it were a competition about which candidate is the best orator, he’d win. But it is neither.” -Cal Thomas, Washington Times, Jan. 19, 2007.

“[Obama] is a black man with a Muslim name who would be seeking the presidency in a historically racist nation currently at war against Muslim extremists. One wonders if there is enough handsomeness, intelligence and charisma in the world to overcome all that.” -Leonard Pitts, Miami Herald, Jan. 19, 2007.

“What’s a guy with only two years’ experience in the U.S. Senate and none as governor, someone few outside his immediate family and the Internal Revenue Service ever heard of three years ago, doing running for president? And why is everybody — or anybody, for the matter — taking him seriously?” -John Farmer, The New Jersey Star Ledger, Dec. 12, 2006.

“Barack Obama is not going to beat Hillary Clinton in a single democratic primary. I’ll predict that right now.” -William Kristol on Fox News Sunday, Dec 17, 2006.

Keith Wilson
01-21-2009, 08:40 AM
Well, Bill Kristol is right about any subject about 3% of the time, so no surprise there. Krauthammer's record isn't much better. Nobody's much good at predicting the future, though, in politics or anything else.

Norman Bernstein
01-21-2009, 08:43 AM
Well, Bill Kristol is right about any subject about 3% of the time, so no surprise there. Krauthammer's record isn't much better. Nobody's much good at predicting the future, thought, in politics or anything else.

Admittedly true. That's why they're called 'pundits', which is an old English word which means 'Here's what I think, but don't bet your life on it' :)

Mrleft8
01-21-2009, 09:33 AM
I freely admit that I thought, and said, that he was too inexperienced to win the election. That proven wrong, let's hope that he is wise enough to surround himself with good people.

Phillip Allen
01-21-2009, 09:38 AM
Norman, it's fun doing that ain't it :)

JimD
01-21-2009, 09:41 AM
If this were a contest about looks and style, Obama might have an edge. If it were a competition about which candidate is the best orator, he’d win. But it is neither.” -Cal Thomas, Washington Times, Jan. 19, 2007.


What's this guy talking about?

Phillip Allen
01-21-2009, 09:42 AM
What's this guy talking about?


prolly something abaout qualifications...

Soundbounder
01-21-2009, 09:58 AM
I think a lot of the Bill Kristol, Sean Hannity types were so geared up for a Hillary Clinton candidacy, that they were willing to dismiss any other challenger. As early as 2000, they were saying that she would be the Democratic presidential nominee.
They had their ducks all lined up,.....Vince Foster, Whitewater, she voted for the Iraq War, Lincoln bedroom, marital infidelity, etc.
The Republican National Committee spent years preparing for a campaign against Hillary.

BrianW
01-21-2009, 10:06 AM
I freely admit that I thought, and said, that he was too inexperienced to win the election. That proven wrong, let's hope that he is wise enough to surround himself with good people.

You are wise, and I must agree.

John of Phoenix
01-21-2009, 10:10 AM
The Republican National Committee spent years preparing for a campaign against Hillary.
Iraq, Afghanistan and Hillary makes the RNC a three time loser.

George Roberts
01-21-2009, 12:03 PM
Sometimes the favorite does not win. No big deal.

Considering the current condition of the country - winning might not be the desired result.

Chris Coose
01-21-2009, 01:13 PM
I sent some money about a week after Obama dropped the dime.
I made it a practice to send $5.00 every time dubbya or cheney lied.
It must have amounted to somewhere around 250 overall.

PatCox
01-21-2009, 01:16 PM
The conservative pundits were deliberately engaged in a "don't throw me in that briar patch" ploy, they spent 4 years pumping up Hillary, saying over and over, oh, its gonna be Hillary, we're scared of Hillary, oh, its inevitable, its gonna be Hillary, in the hope it would come true. They wanted Hillary so bad. McCain might even have been able to beat Hillary, too.

I am just so glad it is not Hillary, it would be so depressing seeing that self-important douche, Bill, back in the White House.

JimD
01-21-2009, 01:32 PM
As one of your neighbours I can report that nothing you could have done could have restored my hope in America more than what you did, namely, elect Barak Obama as your 44th president. Even if he totally screws up and becomes your worst president ever, the very fact of electing him feels like a quantum leap for the USA. Two years ago I thought his chances slim to nil as well and there aren't words to express how profoundly impressed I am that my skepticism turned out to be wrong.

hokiefan
01-21-2009, 01:32 PM
The conservative pundits were deliberately engaged in a "don't throw me in that briar patch" ploy, they spent 4 years pumping up Hillary, saying over and over, oh, its gonna be Hillary, we're scared of Hillary, oh, its inevitable, its gonna be Hillary, in the hope it would come true. They wanted Hillary so bad. McCain might even have been able to beat Hillary, too.

I am just so glad it is not Hillary, it would be so depressing seeing that self-important douche, Bill, back in the White House.

About this time last year I told a staunch Republican friend of mine that the only way a Republican possibly wins is if Hillary runs. He thought I was nuts. Don't know if Hillary loses to McCain or not, but we all saw what happened with Obama vs McCain.

Told my daughter back then that I wanted Obama to beat Hillary. She asked if I wanted Obama as POTUS. Told her that at that point I didn't know, but I wanted a choice and if Hillary was the Dem candidate I didn't have a choice.

I think it turned out well. I truly hope we think that in a couple of years, as what we think today matters little.

Cheers,

Bobby

Soundbounder
01-22-2009, 04:48 AM
Of course a few years ago, I think most people were predicting Rudolph Giuliani to be the Republican candidate, with Romney running a close second. I don't recall a lot of people saying McCain was going to be the nominee.
As they say in football, "that's why they play the games".

A lot of times, a candidate comes out of nowhere. The front-runners 2 to 4 years before an election do not end up winning.
Four years before their nomination, I don't think many were predicting the following names:
Nixon 1968
McGovern 1972
Carter 1976
Dukakis 1988
Clinton 1992
Dole 1996 (he was a favorite in 1988, but by 1996, I think most had written him off)
Kerry 2004
McCain 2008
Obama 2008

Osborne Russell
01-22-2009, 06:21 AM
Thanks for the kind words, JimD.