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jackmolan
01-01-2009, 10:47 PM
Thought some of you might be interested to see my new rig. I just stepped the mast on Weds. and we go into the water on Thurs. There is something of a description and photos at this link:

http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/f48/synthetic-searunner-22345.html

I linked because it looks like the allowable size picture here is pretty small.

I have used Dux and Deadeys for two years already. I am finding I really like the deadeye option over the turnbuckle for a number of reasons. Also using the Dux has lightened my rig by 35 lbs. I was able to splice the entire rig myself. It took 11 hours over two different sessions.

One of the best things I have read on using synthetic is from Brion Toss

http://www.briontoss.com/education/archive/miscsept04.htm

I have been told he is rigging own personal boat or is planning to, with synthetics. It's been a fun trip so far. Thought I let you see:D

James McMullen
01-02-2009, 10:18 AM
Interesting article. This is my favorite quote:

"Good judgement is based on experience, which is based on bad judgement."

I love it! I'm making that my tag line. . . .

StevenBauer
01-02-2009, 10:37 AM
Looks great, Jack. Be sure to let us know about future performance.

http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=6513&d=1230781510

Woxbox
01-02-2009, 07:04 PM
It makes all the sense in the world to me. And no fancy tools required to install, repair or replace, right?

AJZimm
01-02-2009, 07:53 PM
No hidden corrosion or stress fractures to worry about either

soba
01-03-2009, 01:01 AM
Is that Lightning you're using for the rigging? I have been working away at a replacement rig for my Albacore (1962 Mk 1) using that stuff, and once I figured it out, I started loving it! I'm thinking about using it on my Seabird as well, to replace the galvansed standing rig. I like the deadeyes...but I don't want anything that is *obviously* plastic on board. I was thinking of machining some steel or bronze deadeyes...I have this huge bit of gunmetal rodstock that is 6" across...thought I'd chop it into 1" or 3/4" slices and then have a go at it with the milling machine...my first try at porting Google Sketchup to the little CAM machine we have at the salvage yard...

Inspiring! Thanks for posting!

Ron Williamson
01-03-2009, 06:26 AM
Hmm..6" gunmetal rodstock.
Save enough for a cannon.
R

rbgarr
01-03-2009, 09:02 AM
How do the shrouds attach or pass through the spreader tips? Any photos?

Thx

jackmolan
01-04-2009, 09:22 AM
It makes all the sense in the world to me. And no fancy tools required to install, repair or replace, right?


Funny you should ask about tools. Take a look at this splice sequence:

http://www.multimarine.com/tipsdetail.php?id=7

Notice the expensive blue tape and bic pen?:)

jackmolan
01-04-2009, 09:27 AM
Is that Lightning you're using for the rigging? I have been working away at a replacement rig for my Albacore (1962 Mk 1) using that stuff, and once I figured it out, I started loving it! I'm thinking about using it on my Seabird as well, to replace the galvansed standing rig. I like the deadeyes...but I don't want anything that is *obviously* plastic on board. I was thinking of machining some steel or bronze deadeyes...I have this huge bit of gunmetal rodstock that is 6" across...thought I'd chop it into 1" or 3/4" slices and then have a go at it with the milling machine...my first try at porting Google Sketchup to the little CAM machine we have at the salvage yard...

Inspiring! Thanks for posting!

The material is called Dynex Dux. It is a product from Icelandic company called Hampidjan.

http://www.hampidjan.is/Products/Ropes/

The base material is Dynex 75, which is very similar to Spectra or amsteel etc. But they heat it and stretch it and becomes a different animal. I have used it for 6 years in the Bearing Sea where I run a 125' Shorebase Trawler.

If someone says you can't rig a boat with Dynex or spectra they are right. But most (almost all) folks have not heard of Dux

jackmolan
01-04-2009, 09:38 AM
How do the shrouds attach or pass through the spreader tips? Any photos?

Thx

The photos I took of the spreader tips did not focus on the tips but on the ground just as we were lifting the mast.
The rig is a double spreader cutter. Top spreaders I used a small fabric hose to pass over the tips, and lashed it in place that was. I used various materials to see what will turn out the best/worst. I used SS wire on a couple tips, some Dynex 60 twine on one and Poly twine on another. One the bottom Spreader I used a larger hose to cover both ropes.
I am not very concerned about chaff. I do not mean to sound flippant. But I have seen this stuff take horrible abuse on steel deck sand sand and rocks and chain etc. It gets fuzzy after some serious thrashing, but it still keeps going......:rolleyes:
The 7mm Dux I used has a breaking strength of 15,000 lbs. and the 9mm I have on my headstay and staysail stay is 26,500 lbs.
I thought I would be using my regular bronze hanks, but now I am being shown how to make soft hanks out of Dynex.
A good read on the materials and how to size them cam be found at.

http://www.colligomarine.com/Colligo-Synthetic-Systems/Dynex-Dux.htm

This is the outfit that made all my fittings also.

jackmolan
01-04-2009, 09:39 AM
Looks great, Jack. Be sure to let us know about future performance.

http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=6513&d=1230781510


How in the world did you get such a big photo on there? Nice!:eek:

jackmolan
01-15-2009, 11:02 PM
I have added soft hank/soft shackles to the synthetic solutions on my boat. I continue to be impressed how well this works and how easy it is...:-) I like being able to replace heavy steel fittings with lines. I have added photos here:

http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/f48/synthetic-searunner-22345.html