Arghhhhh missing companionway slides

[Hugh Paterson]

So here I am lots of things to do and I am still waiting, (15 days and counting), for the new tracks I ordered for my hatch to arrive. The only saving grace is that the weather is rotton and I am not missing much, If I ever catch up with the swine that bust the old ones breaking into my boat he gets the anchor chain wrapped round his ankles just before I drop the hook for the night. Still think positive, my belly is getting fatter and I have spent the spare time looking for "somthing swift" in the way of a pulling boat to build, capable of working off the flab, any ideas folks, Thinking 15ft(ish) and slim but not too narrow a beam and able to handle a bit of chop? Oh and its got too look as if your dying to own one, nothing slab sided please. smile.gif
Shug.

[paladin]

howzabout one of them there CLC critters....theys good looking and seem to row just fine....

[Hugh Paterson]

Paladinsfo ,Contact details for pictures/plans? they in Woodenboat advertising?

Shug.

[Charlie J]

Here's the URL for CLC - Chesapeake Light Craft. Nice folks too.

http://www.clcboats.com/main.php3

[Hugh Paterson]

Oh Kayaks......the bell just went off in my dim head, but I have seen the book a couple of times, I could give you a couple of those things, I have 23 at the last count.. I was thinking of a rowing skiff, somthing along the lines of a small cornish gig? But those sea kayaks look cool. I was in a very nice supplier of kayak/canoe gear last week, the bottom fell out of my world when I got a quote for one of their nice Sea Kayaks, £1250, the air turned blue for a second or two :eek: Methinks I am building the wrong products, I take bout a day to turn out a respectable slalom boat for a lot less poppy than that. Some of the whitehall boats look nice, similar lines available here but not ideal for what I have in mind. The only boat that has come close is in the design folio of Paul Gartside?
Keep the suggestions coming please :(

Shuggie.

[Sailman58]

CLC also makes kits for pulling boats. The Annapolis Wherry kit is already in production, and another kit for the Chester Yawl (a Whitehall type) is getting close to production.

Ron

[Hugh Paterson]

The Kit might be a tad expensive to ship over the pond, I will settle for the plans, but worth looking into all of the same cheers :D

Shug

[Matt Middleton]

My favorite design along these lines is Paul Gartside's flashboat (http://www.gartsideboats.com/flash.php) .

[Hugh Paterson]

Matt, I have been looking at the lines for that 3 times a day, still have not seen anything over here to beat them, but I thought I would ask to see if anyone has any other suggestions. There are a couple of skiffs around here that look not too bad but I want somthing that could handle a wave or two in open water. That and a bit of waterline length for speed/tracking. Most of the stuff I build is tender size great for to and from the boat with loads of space for gear with stumpy oars or a small outboard, none of them are "rowing machines"
Shuggie.

[Matt Middleton]

Another boat to check out is any of the rowing dory versions that are out there- even though they are sometimes slab-sided plywood construction, they can look pretty decent and are supposed to handle rough water. One is this Gloucester Light Dory (http://www.instantboats.com/ggull.htm) .
Also look at some of the Duck Trap designs, like this Lincolnville Salmon Wherry (http://www.duck-trap.com/2002lsw.html) . I like the looks of these a lot .
I have to admit that I'm as bad as our resident Dingo when it comes to looking at all the plans out there and changing my mind as to which one to build, but for some reason I always come back to the Gartside designs. When/if I build something, it will likey be to one of his.

[Hugh Paterson]

Matt, Everyone got me thinking about the CLC stuff, and trolling through my back issues of magazines I found an article on a their Annapolis wherry from July/Aug 2000 Watercraft, Fyne Boat kits have the European agency for the boats but at 17ft its longer than I want, whatever I build will be sharing the racks of my Kayak trailer for storeage and its a bit long. That Salmon wherry is a nice shape though, just love the transom, Thats two nice boats to consider, all I got to do now is make space, or find a bigger workshop.

[Wiley Baggins]

I started to post a reply to this thread earlier, but you already seem to have the same case of the hots for the Flashboat that I have. The Flashboat is on my "I almost certainly must build this boat" list.

Having said all that, there was a nice building article by John Gardner in WoodenBoat a few years back (issue 51) entitled "The Modified McInnis Bateau." That boat too might be of interest.

[Hugh Paterson]

Wiley, The John Gardner books are on my "list of things to buy" I have wanted to sniff them out for a while now, So many choices are a bad thing with shallow pockets. har har :(

Shuggie.

[Nicholas Carey]

Originally posted by Hugh Paterson:
The Kit might be a tad expensive to ship over the pond, I will settle for the plansSadly, no plans available. The wherry is built using a CLC-propietary methodology "lapstitch" (I believe they've got a patent pending on it).

Basically, each strake has a CNC-milled rabbet to receive the next strake, so the whole boat is self-jigging like a stitch-and-tape. Once it's all wired together, you fill/tape the seams with googe/glass and their you have it.

Evidently, milling out the strakes is not a technique conducive to the home shop (unless you have CNC tooling).

This just in...the CLC lapstitch technique is patented (US Patent No. 6,142,093 (http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&u=/netahtml/search-adv.htm&r=1&p=1&f=G&l=50&d=ft00&S1=lapstrake.ABST.&OS=abst/lapstrake&RS=ABST/lapstrake)). Read the patent by clicking on the patent number.

[ 05-29-2002, 07:58 PM: Message edited by: Nicholas Carey ]

[Hugh Paterson]

Nicholas, I would be so lucky (CNC). Hand tools, a few power tools and power to yer elbow sir!
The computer aided draughting on my course was the module I disliked the most, anyone got a pencil sharpner?

Shug.

[Jeff Evans]

There must be 50 of those Gloucester Light Dorys within a quarter mile of where I'm sitting. Someone built the molds for it 25 years ago and it just gets passed around. I'd bet that 95% of the boats in the fleet came off the same mold.

The 16' Swampscott Dory I'm building is supposed to row and sail very nicely and handle a good chop. Plans are in John Gardiner's "Building Classic Small Boats", available from the Mystic Seaport online store Mystic Seaport (http://www.mysticseaport.org/)

[ 05-30-2002, 11:29 AM: Message edited by: Jeff Evans ]

[Figment]

I pegged onto this thread with my mind all made up to reccommend CLC's annapolis wherry, as I've heard good firsthand reports on its handling.

then I saw that "Flashboat". wow.

I'm not much of a rowboat guy (as my gut will attest), but that would have to be the one for me!

[Tom Dugan]

While the Lapstitch (tm) technique is patented (how it can be defended is a big question), the Sassafras canoes are also designed with the rabbet, and plans for them are in
http://www.woodenboatstore.com/store/images/300526.JPG

so you can scratch-build 'em. I'm sure the Annapolis Wherry isn't in the book, however.

Everyone I know who has built Oughtred's Whilly Boat raves about how well it rows. And it's evidently a sweet sailor, too. Fourteen foot six. Might want to think about it, Shug.

-T

[Tom Dugan]

Oh, and if that's too much beam for you, look at John Gardner's "Building Classic Small Craft" for the Herreshoff Rowboat, which has lines similar to a 16' canoe (IMO). Supposedly a wicked good rowboat. Here (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/stores/detail/-/books/0070228647/reader/17/ref=lib_rd_TC01/102-4594845-0520139#reader-link) may point you to the TOC.

-T

[Hugh Paterson]

Hi Guys, Sunday afternoon now, still no tracks yet for my coachroof slides so slapped more varnish on all the woodwork instead of going sailing it was almost as theraputic. So a large cup of tea and a post review session follows.
I am off out tomorrow to find a copy of Gardners book, I can order it from one of the magazines on this side of the "pond" but will try one of the bookstores in Glasgow tomorrow (any excuse to find a few good books to take on holiday next week). I have been involved with three of Iain Oughtreds designs this year so thinking of trying somthing else, so many choices but the Paul Gartside boats and the Salmon Wherry look the best bet, I will be building whatever I choose for
my own use in the first instance, but if it works out really good will let my Navy Cadets knock out a couple to potter around with as well, (seems like a good excuse to try the flashboat and the wherry). In between all this deliberation I have been pulling an oar occasionally with the Gael Gael trust in Glasgow in their recently launched "Birlinn", Lines once again by Iain Oughtred, and am now in the last week of the Boatbuilding Course I have been attending for the past two years. I should have done this course 20 years ago but better late than never.
Soon be time to start earning a crumb or two again, but Holiday first in Sunny Portugal.
Yehaaaaaaaaaaaa :D I will order the plans when I get back, and let u know how I am getting on with the build. Cheers all for the input

Regards
Shug.