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cmcgovern
07-31-2008, 03:55 PM
Hello, I am curious if anyone has sailed the exposed washington/oregon coast in a small beachable boat. is it possible? are there any books on the subject? I realize it can be a hazardous area. Thanks!

Yeadon
07-31-2008, 04:03 PM
Brrrrr.

Seems pretty unprotected. I'm under the impression that's one of the roughest areas anywhere. I could see going up the Inside Passage in a camp cruiser. Lots of people have done that. But to stick your nose out there into the great blue in a small camp cruiser, that's probably not for me.

On the other hand ... local fisherman launched dories for decades off the beaches and went fishing offshore. So ...

pcford
07-31-2008, 04:04 PM
Hello, I am curious if anyone has sailed the exposed washington/oregon coast in a small beachable boat. is it possible? are there any books on the subject? I realize it can be a hazardous area. Thanks!

Dude, that scares me. There are few places on the coast to put in. And many of these are not easy to approach.

I would stick to Puget Sound/BC waters.

There are some islands at the north west end of Vancouver Island that some friends that are kayakers cruised in a few years ago...Can't recall the name.

Thorne
07-31-2008, 04:04 PM
No. No. Yes - "Shipwrecks of the Pacific Coast" by James A. Gibbs

;0 )

That's what the San Juans and Sunshine Coast are there for, man! Get up to Nainamo and work your way south...lovely boating, great scenery, plenty of wind and tides, too.

pcford
07-31-2008, 04:09 PM
No. No. No.

That's what the San Juans and Sunshine Coast are there for, man! Get up to Nainamo and work your way south...lovely boating, great scenery, plenty of wind and tides, too.

Yes...one drawback to the west coast is unlike the east coast is that there are relatively few sheltered moorages. The other is that it is a lee shore.

I will try to retrieve the place that I mentioned above...it is not obvious to me on the map of Vancouver Island.

TimH
07-31-2008, 04:12 PM
but if you like beaching in the surf .... :)

Bobcat
07-31-2008, 04:13 PM
I fished that coast commercially for several years and, well, I wouldn't do it. The distance between places to hide are too far and the harbors, which often have bars that can break, would be too iffy in the craft you're considering. Beaching the boat is probably not practical with the surf and currents.

BETTY-B
07-31-2008, 04:15 PM
You can get lost with no humans for miles amonst many islands just in Barkley Sound alone. You can even leave those islands and poke your nose out in the Pacific Ocean too if that's what you are into at the moment.

pcford
07-31-2008, 04:23 PM
You can get lost with no humans for miles amonst many islands just in Barkley Sound alone. You can even leave those islands and poke your nose out in the Pacific Ocean too if that's what you are into at the moment.

Barkley Sound....that's what I was trying to think of, thanks Dan.

JimD
07-31-2008, 04:30 PM
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There are some islands at the north west end of Vancouver Island that some friends that are kayakers cruised in a few years ago...Can't recall the name.

Directly to the north west end of Vancouver Island is Lanz and Cox Provincial Park, but you'd wanna be an adventurous individual to go there:



Lanz and Cox Islands Provincial Park

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http://www.env.gov.bc.ca/bcparks/_bcparks_templates/images/parkspg_available-instr_460.jpg (http://www.env.gov.bc.ca/bcparks/explore/parkpgs/lanz_cox_is/#Activities)
Park Info

Lanz and Cox Islands were set aside as a provincial park to protect an unspoiled coastal wilderness environment. Together with the outer three islands of the Scott Islands chain (Beresford, Sartine and Triangle Islands) they protect some of the most important seabird nesting colonies in the world.
Due to the extreme weather conditions and sea states that these islands can experience at any time of the year, this park receives very few visitors. The rugged, rocky coastline of these islands provides poor access for boaters and the steep slopes of the islands makes travel onshore near impossible.
Park Size: 5,514 ha (1,992 ha upland & 3,522 of foreshore)
Special Notes:
The only access to Lanz and Cox Islands Provincial Park is by boat. Only extremely experienced boaters should consider visiting these islands, as they experience open Pacific Ocean weather conditions. Boaters can reference marine chart #3625 (Scott Islands) for more information on this area.

But more likely it was someplace like God's Pocket Marine Park http://www.env.gov.bc.ca/bcparks/explore/parkpgs/gods_pocket/ , which is on the inside side and therefore relatively protected, at least in summer. All bets are off in the winter. Best to stay clear of just about anywhere on the north end of Vancouver Island from October onwards.

JimD
07-31-2008, 04:54 PM
Barkley Sound is still on my list. Quite easy access. As the crow flies its farther south than Nanaimo.

cmcgovern
07-31-2008, 05:05 PM
barkley sound looks like a great alternative, guess i won't be dashing myself against the rocks just yet.

but "easy access"? I thought it was like 5 hours of dirt road? I don't really want to do that, i'd rather sail from port renfrew.

thanks guys!

JimD
07-31-2008, 05:33 PM
... "easy access"? I thought it was like 5 hours of dirt road? I don't really want to do that, i'd rather sail from port renfrew.

thanks guys!

Depends where you're coming from. I was thinking of my own access, which is from the east side of Vancouver Island. For me there is paved highway all the way to Uclulet on the north corner of the sound. Many American boats check in with Canadian Customs at Uclulet before entering Barkley sound. But coming from the south and west side of the Island you are right. The good road ends at Port Renfrew.

You probably already know this, too, but for small camp cruising the kayak route books are very helpful. They offer detailed info on small craft hazzards, camp site info, that sort of thing. 'Kayaking Vancouver Island' by Backlund and Grey is one of many.

ron ll
07-31-2008, 05:51 PM
I think most sailors going to Barkley Sound from the States find it best to go from Neah Bay on the very NW tip of Washington State. But that takes a relatively big boat to cross the mouth of the Straights.

Don't know how small a boat you are thinking about, but a few years ago we went to Barkley Sound by way of a small packet freighter called the "Lady Rose". She regularly sails (sailed?) out of Port Alberni and thru the Alberni Channel (?) to Barkley. Among other things she carries people with kayaks.

JimD
07-31-2008, 06:01 PM
The Lady Rose can carry up to 100 passengers and 25 tons of cargo...Designed for the sheltered coastal waters of British Columbia, this stocky little vessel soon proved capable of much more, becoming the first diesel powered vessel to cross the Atlantic driven by a single propeller.


http://www.bestwesternbarclay.com/cms_images/ladyrose_img.jpg

TerryLL
07-31-2008, 08:40 PM
Hello, I am curious if anyone has sailed the exposed washington/oregon coast in a small beachable boat. is it possible? are there any books on the subject? I realize it can be a hazardous area. Thanks!

Bad plan, for all the reasons stated above. Go North.

Years ago I camp-cruised from Seattle to Sitka, AK. I stayed on the east side of Vancouver Island and then up through the Inside Passage. Fabulous! Lots of places to stop, never did more than 50 miles a day. Many, many protected anchorages. Lots of other boaters around if you get into trouble. Hope to do it again some day. On the way up a guy passed me on a Hobie Cat on his way to Juneau. Go North.

crabskiff
07-31-2008, 08:46 PM
If you are looking for inspiration then check out this adventure two young sisters had camp cruising in Mirror Dinghys. Enjoy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNDdkEIOnls

Yeadon
07-31-2008, 08:53 PM
Bad plan, for all the reasons stated above. Go North.

Years ago I camp-cruised from Seattle to Sitka, AK. I stayed on the east side of Vancouver Island and then up through the Inside Passage. Fabulous! Lots of places to stop, never did more than 50 miles a day. Many, many protected anchorages. Lots of other boaters around if you get into trouble. Hope to do it again some day. On the way up a guy passed me on a Hobie Cat on his way to Juneau. Go North.

What type of boat did you take? How big?

TerryLL
07-31-2008, 09:56 PM
What type of boat did you take? How big?

Cape Ann dory, 23 feet, ketch-rigged with loose-footed spritsails, 10 HP Honda in a well. Late summer, 1984. I was a rooky boater back then. Fortunately, the boat knew what it was doing and took good care of me.

http://i325.photobucket.com/albums/k365/TerryLava/cape_ann1.jpg

http://i325.photobucket.com/albums/k365/TerryLava/cape_ann3.jpg

http://i325.photobucket.com/albums/k365/TerryLava/cape_ann2.jpg

Yeadon
11-23-2008, 09:13 AM
bump ...

If I was to trailer my peapod up to Barkley Sound, where would I launch the boat? Ucluelet?

Seems that the great cost for the trip would be the ferry trip from Anacortes to Sidney ... more than $300 round trip with a truck and boat trailer ... anybody want to give me a tow from Port Angeles, or even Shilshole? (If I'm going to spend such a chunk of money on fuel, it might as well be for your fuel.)

Bob Triggs
11-24-2008, 03:20 PM
Read "The Sea Runners" for Ivan Doig's account of what the coast would be like from a seaworthy dugout canoe in the mid 19th century.

People have sailed along that coast in very small craft, but the didnt have many safe places to stop or hide.

Bob Triggs
11-24-2008, 03:23 PM
bump ...

If I was to trailer my peapod up to Barkley Sound, where would I launch the boat? Ucluelet?

Seems that the great cost for the trip would be the ferry trip from Anacortes to Sidney ... more than $300 round trip with a truck and boat trailer ... anybody want to give me a tow from Port Angeles, or even Shilshole? (If I'm going to spend such a chunk of money on fuel, it might as well be for your fuel.)

If you walk Fishermans Terminal commercial docks in Seattle you will find someone headed north who will tow/cargo your small boat. (PM me if you want the name of a guy who may be able to do it in the spring). Many boats head north in the spring, some of them have deck space for cargo, small boats, skiffs etc. It helps them pay the fuel costs. Another bet might be to ask around at Fishermen Supply. They know everybody.