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Russ Manheimer
07-17-2008, 09:26 AM
will start four weeks from today in Brooklin, Maine, from August 14th to the 17th. I know the Bauers are going and Julia and I will be in a chase boat on Friday, the 15th. Who else is going?

Here's a pic from last year to remind everyone what a great event this is.

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1314/1256152625_28bc4a613c_o.jpg



Thank's to Tom and Jim and the crew at WB. What stories Tom will have (http://wbeditor.typepad.com/rudderpost/2008/07/viking-voyager.html).


I tried to find the prior thread without sucess. Is there an archive I missed? Just noticed the new Formatting tools

Canoez
07-17-2008, 09:44 AM
I might be crossing paths with you folks up there. We plan to be up there on the 16th and staying through the next week.

phiil
07-18-2008, 05:47 AM
I'll be there with Alicia and Scout. We have added another wooden part to Scout in order to fit in better this year.

Phil

Russ Manheimer
07-18-2008, 07:53 AM
Canoez,

Will you be teaching at the WBS again?

Canoez
07-18-2008, 08:31 AM
No, Russ, not this time. I'm going to learn.

I'm going to be taking Jerry Stelmok's class on cedar/canvas canoe building. I've done a fair amount of repair work on old rib and plank boats, but I've got some gaps in my experience that I'm trying to fill in. Mostly with regard to plank goring, cant rib shaping and some better experience with steam bending.

StevenBauer
07-18-2008, 09:52 AM
Be sure to introduce yourself, Z. :) Last year I missed out on meeting several forumites who were at the WBSchool that weekend. At one point Clint told me that Paul Gartsides was there looking at the boats on the lawn. I said I wished I'd met him and Clint told me I'd been talking to him for about five minutes, showing him the Elf's rudder hardware, and I had no idea who he was at the time. :eek:

Mary was going to come up with me but she has a chance to take Holly to Spain and Portugal for ten days for free so I don't think she'll be there. ;)


Steven

Canoez
07-18-2008, 09:58 AM
I'll remember to introduce myself. To be honest, I think I saw you at the Maine Boatbuilder's show on Sunday morning talking with Tom Jackson at the WB booth while I was talking with Rich Hilsinger. When I got done talking to Rich, you'd vanished.

Russ Manheimer
07-24-2008, 01:01 PM
Bump

marsbar
07-24-2008, 08:55 PM
Hi Russ,

I was going to make the trip with my daughter and our sailing dingy in tow. I missed the cutoff date for sending in the application. Sent a message to Tom at WB and waiting to hear if they would accept a late application.

Been looking for you around Swan Point. You taking Sjogin out for her August maintenance?

Take care,

Mark

StevenBauer
07-24-2008, 09:08 PM
Tom is off having a little adventure, Mark. Maybe you should contact David Wyman at david@dwymanpe.com.

For more on Tom's adventure see the "WoodenBoat Editor On Assignment" link from WoodenBoats homepage: http://www.woodenboat.com/wbmag/vikingship/index.html
or the Rudderposts link: http://wbeditor.typepad.com/


Steven

Russ Manheimer
07-25-2008, 05:07 PM
Steven,

I was hoping Matt would post more of Tom's comments. Should be a great story.

Mark,

I was out this morning, in by noon. Let me know the next time you'll be out. Sjogin gets hauled when I return from Maine. Give WB a call. I'm sure they have a wait list or such. Maybe you can go up anyway and lurk.

Best,

Russ

rbgarr
07-25-2008, 05:23 PM
I might be a lurker if the weather looks good.

Russ Manheimer
07-27-2008, 10:51 AM
Do make yourself known. Maybe you can wrangle a ride? Just show up on the beach Friday morning and look useful.

Hope to see you there,

Russ

Russ Manheimer
07-27-2008, 11:07 AM
Here's a recent video (http://www.havhingsten.dk/index.php?id=1144&L=1): they're waiting in Lowestoft for a good forecast. Tom Jackson's comments at 0:42.

Howard Sharp
07-27-2008, 05:21 PM
We hope to be launching our Chebacco Lily Catchpole in the Benjamin River on the Sunday, taking family members out daysailing. On Monday we'll start our two week sailing/camping adventure among the islands, our first time on the Maine Island Trail. One way or another, I hope we bump into the fleet!
Unless of course it's foggy, in which case I hope we bump into no one.

hikingchrs
07-27-2008, 07:36 PM
i will be there again this year.

TC
07-29-2008, 08:36 PM
I know it's not a spectator event like the WBS is, but is there any spectator potential for the SRR?

We'll be not far away in Stonington that weekend and it'd be interesting to see what people bring. I assume that early/late in the day would be the time to see people and their boats.

Tim

StevenBauer
07-29-2008, 08:54 PM
Tim, the best time to see all the boats is Thursday afternoon. That's when they are all on the lawn together. Once in the water Friday morning they tend to disburse quickly. In the evenings some boats stay anchored and some come ashore. They aren't really together again in one spot. Except on some island beach at lunchtime each day.:D

Steven

David Gilroy
07-30-2008, 11:44 AM
I'll be there again with my Penobscot 17, the Rosie B. She's the one with tanbark lug ketch rig. I'm looking forward to it with excitement.

S.V. Airlie
07-30-2008, 02:57 PM
I'll be there.. Almost in Brooklin anyway..

Canoez
07-30-2008, 03:02 PM
Jaime,

Where will you be anchored/moored?

S.V. Airlie
07-30-2008, 03:06 PM
Jaime,

Where will you be anchored/moored?

probably anchored. Still not even sure where Brooklin is on the Reach..
I'm just gonna look for the buildings/boats...

elf
07-30-2008, 03:21 PM
Tim, the best time to see all the boats is Thursday afternoon. That's when they are all on the lawn together. Once in the water Friday morning they tend to disburse quickly.
Oooh. Boats that pay money! What a great concept. Can one get money without work, too?

Ron Paro
07-31-2008, 11:19 AM
Good catch elf! I'm sure Steven meant 'disperse'. ;)

Is anyone looking for a crew member for the SRR? I am still looking for a ride, and willing to pull my weight, or a pair of oars, or whatever...

I'd love to participate, but my boat is a little too small.

Ron http://jimmyskiff.blogspot.com

Russ Manheimer
07-31-2008, 11:50 AM
Jamie,

Brooklin's near the end of the Blue Hill Peninsular, just up the Reach from Jericho Bay. If you're coming from Rockport/Camden, go through the Deer Isle Thorofare and hang a left when Naskeag Point bears N.

The anchorage by WB is behind Babson and Little Babson Islands. Be wary of the power line going out to Little Babson. And also the rocks that uncover at low tide!

I see a tour boat operation in your immediate future.

See you soon,

Russ

Ps: Disburse indeed. Every month I make a disbursement to Beatons.

S.V. Airlie
07-31-2008, 12:27 PM
Jamie,

Brooklin's near the end of the Blue Hill Peninsular, just up the Reach from Jericho Bay. If you're coming from Rockport/Camden, go through the Deer Isle Thorofare and hang a left when Naskeag Point bears N.

The anchorage by WB is behind Babson and Little Babson Islands. Be wary of the power line going out to Little Babson. And also the rocks that uncover at low tide!

I see a tour boat operation in your immediate future.

See you soon,

Russ

Ps: Disburse indeed. Every month I make a disbursement to Beatons.

Thanks for the directions/location Russ. I should be there a few days ealy if anyone needs any help doing anything.

Ron Paro
07-31-2008, 12:47 PM
Jamie, if I don't find a ride on a SRR boat, do you still have space for me on Airlie?

S.V. Airlie
08-01-2008, 08:46 AM
Jamie, if I don't find a ride on a SRR boat, do you still have space for me on Airlie?

Yup!

Ron Paro
08-01-2008, 09:23 AM
Thanks Jaimie! I just sent you a PM.

Clinton B Chase
08-01-2008, 01:12 PM
I'll be coming again but, sadly, without DRAKE, my new boat. She has been sitting for weeks now -- and another week at least -- waiting for my hand to heal.

Does anyone have this year's list? I swear I saw the last boat on the list was a Shellback Dinghy. I've gone everywhere in mine and plan to bring it. I aim to participate in the Wed night Brooklin BY after work Shellback race/happy hour.

The Shellback will mean it is just a solo thing, but I've been in great conditons and aweful conditions and feel safe in her....my main concern is that I get runover by a CALEDONIA YAWL!!! :)

Cheers,
Clint

Ben Fuller
08-01-2008, 02:16 PM
Clint,
bring along the shell back but we can put a crew together to play in the real faering. I will also have the ducker along which can be amusing so don't worry about lack of rowing benches.

Lance Lee will also be bring along Perserverance his small schooner to act as a mother ship for Tremolino which is Med rigged with 3 masts... about 25 feet. Would be amusing.

ben

Pytheas
08-02-2008, 02:08 AM
Ron, There is only my son and me in Delight (Caledonia Yawl) so you are welcome to come along if you don't get a better offer.

StevenBauer
08-02-2008, 08:09 AM
i will be there again this year.


Chris, is your daughter coming again this year? My 13 year old might be coming with me and she'd love to know it's not just 'old boat guys'. :D


Steven

Clinton B Chase
08-02-2008, 11:17 AM
... it's not just 'old boat guys'. :D


Steven

You mean it's not just old boat guys!!!!!!!!

Ben, I will look forward to getting out in a real faering.

Anyone here bringing up a sailing dory? I'd love to get out in one.

Cheers,
Clint

Ron Paro
08-03-2008, 12:45 AM
Ron, There is only my son and me in Delight (Caledonia Yawl) so you are welcome to come along if you don't get a better offer.
Hi John,
Thanks for your kind offer. I would be happy to join you and your son in Delight! I am planning to spend some time with Jamie on Airlie, but I did want to able to experience the SRR as a crewmember of a smaller (participating) craft. I will send you a PM with my contact information.
Ron

TC
08-06-2008, 12:12 PM
Steven,
Thanks for the tip about Thursday, but we won't arrive until Friday. We'll stop by anyway at some point during the weekend; Brooklin/WB is one of the places we always check out when in the area. And Elf, while the payoff isn't cash, seeing some really sweet boats and those who built/restored/sail them certainly has a different, higher, value.
Tim

hikingchrs
08-06-2008, 02:01 PM
steven
jasmine unfortunately does not plan on coming this year.
chris

StevenBauer
08-06-2008, 02:10 PM
steven
jasmine unfortunately does not plan on coming this year.
chris



Celie just decided this morning to spend the weekend at her cousin's house. I guess it'll just be us "old boat guys". :D

I still need to finish the oars for the Elf. We can't find the ones we made last year. :( They might have been left on the boat ramp.


Steven

Daniel Noyes
08-06-2008, 03:54 PM
Hi I hope to see all on the Reach
Ron if you have been following the Alpha Dory thread in the designs or building sections you know that the Alpha I am building will not be done in time for the SSR but I will likely bring it anyway, three seascouts who were going to make the trip will be taking a two week sail to Maine in a 30' sail boat so I should have room if you would like to take a test sail.
The 21 foot long Alpha is a 100+- yr old racing dory design from the shop of the famous builder William Chamberlain of Marblehead Massachusetts. I am excited to sail this boat and it is likely the first time will be at the Small Reach.
Dan
http://dansdories.googlepages.com

Russ Manheimer
08-13-2008, 06:08 PM
Bump

Hope Friday is as beautiful as today was. Classic afternoon Southwester. See you all then.

Russ

Russ Manheimer
08-15-2008, 05:48 AM
Off to Brooklin for a day of chase boat duties. Light fog now, but showing signs of lifting. Photos this evening.

Bon voyage all participants.

Russ

Mrleft8
08-15-2008, 06:58 AM
Hey Russ...... Are you sure you're not off by about a year? ;)

Russ Manheimer
08-15-2008, 07:08 AM
Not using a Jamie calendar. Still thick o' fog.

Mrleft8
08-15-2008, 08:05 AM
2009? Or did I lose a year somewhere?

phiil
08-16-2008, 02:22 PM
Regatta, day 2:
Yesterday was gorgeousa. Good breeze, good boats, good people. We logged 17 miles with hardly any rowing. Ended the day with a barbeque dinner and talk and slide show by Tom Jackson about his journey aboard a 98' open boat with about 60 other masochists. Camping at WB is luxurious compared to his trip.

Today was a different story. Pea soup and no wind, followed by pea soup and lotsa wind, followed by pea soup, wind, and plenty of rain. After a nice lunch break on Hog Island, it mostly cleared up, except for the fog, and we had a good afternoon sail. Next year's boat to beat: Antonio Dias' Harrier.
Lobstah dinnah tonight, more sailing tomorrow.

Phil
Sea Pearl #157, "Scout"

Russ Manheimer
08-16-2008, 03:17 PM
Duh. Just realized I was living in the future. Maybe Jamie will make to 2010 SRR.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3255/2766913998_3ebd932d14_b.jpg

More pics here (http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3071/2760377881_79136de5a5.jpg).

Thanks WB for a great event.

Russ

Mrleft8
08-16-2008, 08:02 PM
Duh. Just realized I was living in the future. Maybe Jamie will make to 2010 SRR.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3255/2766913998_3ebd932d14_b.jpg

More pics here (http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3071/2760377881_79136de5a5.jpg).

Thanks WB for a great event.

Russ
Better give him a lil' more notice! ;)...... BTW...... I WIN!!!! :D

Russ Manheimer
08-16-2008, 08:03 PM
Great lobster dinner at WB tonight.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3088/2768800029_905f9f138d_b.jpg
From the left: Mary and Steven Bauer, Patrick Xavier (all the way from Wellington, NZ, Julia (holding my wine), Hughman, Nick and Hiking Chris.

Great fun and a full moon to boot.

See you all next year.

Russ

Mrleft8
08-16-2008, 08:07 PM
What?! no salad?....

Russ Manheimer
08-17-2008, 07:20 AM
For once Julia and I didn't have to bring it to a forum gathering.

Mrleft8
08-17-2008, 11:33 AM
So..... What happened? C'mon guys..... UPDATES PLEASE!!
BTW.... What did I win?:D

Ed Harrow
08-17-2008, 05:07 PM
Anyone driving south thru 495/90 give me a call if you need a rest stop. Steve and Mary should have my number.

Tom Jackson
08-18-2008, 01:20 PM
Some video clips of the Small Reach Regatta are now up and running on the WoodenBoat web site. Click on Videos to access the show, which was put together by Tom Hill.

Also, the next video down in the list is one I put together using clips I took during the HAVHINGSTEN FRA GLENDALOUGH voyage.

Mrleft8
08-18-2008, 08:20 PM
I apologize Russ..... I was having fun at your expense.... I will refrain from now on.... Well maybe one more when you least expect it..... :D

Daniel Noyes
08-19-2008, 07:13 AM
Thanks Tom!
Small Reach was a blast!!
We were working on the Alpha Dory, recutting the mainsail, tieing the boat down etc, untill about noon Thursday. Friday I sailed with Jole who helped me build the boat, Lauren and friend Dan Bell. plenty of room for us on the seats and tons of room in the bow and stern for gear. We were getting the rig sorted out and the jib was too full so we could not point as High as I would have liked. Sailing back to wooden boat at the end of the afternoon sail a wall of fog was racing us to the dock, wind came up to about 18 mph we were heeled over spray flying white water rolling off the bow and the wake hissing along the lee rail. Saturday foggy, lght wind and rain. We left the sail rig on the shore at WB and navigated by chart and compass through the fog to Hog Island for lunch, It cleared then fog came back in for the row home. Sunday I had lost my crew Saturday night they had to return to Massachusetts, so Clint sailed with me, it was one for the record books, blowing a steady 12-15 Clint was on the rail handling the sails amidships an I was steering, Jib hanked to the forestay made all the difference in pointing, The boat was lightly loaded and we were flying to windward, we left WB anchorage about a half mile behind the fleet and after about 2 hours of sailing had no more boats to follow. After lunch on Babson Island we sailed around the anchorage for an hr. or so before lowering the mast and hauling out. I raised and lowered the 20' mast, while on the water, single handed each morning and evening (I did not want to leave the dory anchored out with the mast up all night).
Dan
Lauren has posted a few of the hundreds of shots she took to my website photos section http://dansdories.googlepages.com
http://photos-f.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-snc1/v319/163/68/68401940/s68401940_30880069_5113.jpg (http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=30880069&id=68401940)Dorian Grey Saturday noonhttp://photos.l3.facebook.com/photos-l3-sf2p/v307/163/68/68401940/s68401940_30879937_8280.jpg (http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=30879937&id=68401940)Alpha Sat. morninghttp://photos.l3.facebook.com/photos-l3-sf2p/v307/163/68/68401940/s68401940_30879862_1826.jpg (http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=30879862&id=68401940)steering from the bow in the Alpha Dory fridayhttp://photos.l3.facebook.com/photos-l3-sf2p/v307/163/68/68401940/s68401940_30879896_4244.jpg (http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=30879896&id=68401940)Friday 5:00pmhttp://photos-g.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v307/163/68/68401940/s68401940_30878686_8412.jpg (http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=30878686&id=68401940)Fareing Fridayhttp://photos-a.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v307/163/68/68401940/s68401940_30878704_4580.jpg (http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=30878704&id=68401940)fleet heading out after lunch Fri.

Russ Manheimer
08-19-2008, 07:16 AM
Anytime I make a bone-headed typo like that, feel free to have at it. Thanks Scot for the year edit.

Come January I'll start a new 2009 SSR thread. See you all next year.

Russ

Ben Fuller
08-19-2008, 01:31 PM
Just downloading the GPS. Total distance for the three days was thirty six nm; that is almost all the trips; perhaps shy a mile or so as I did not want to take the faering in to the hole up by 17 past Benjamin River. I will do a download and maybe get a pdf up if people are interested.

Best speed I hit was better than 7 knots in the ducker on Sunday when the wind actually blew more than about 7 mph. The GPS did show better than expected windward performance from the faering, about 100 degrees tack to tack. The boat needs to be running at around 4 or you make some leeway.

The Pen Bay weather buoy only started recording 10 knots or better on Sunday which was too bad.

Now that we have more experienced people maybe in 2009 we can put together a cross bay cruise.

Clinton B Chase
08-24-2008, 09:45 PM
Ben, I will certainly be well aquanted with Drake by next August complete with a dippling lug and a choice of many oars, and would love to look forward to a cross-bay cruise. Great idea.

Cheers,
Clint

Ron Paro
08-25-2008, 11:17 AM
In case anyone interested may have missed this link on the other related threads...
I have put together a short slideshow/video here:
http://www.mydeo.com/videorequest.asp?XID=7899&CID=214608

The SRR was great fun, and I want to express gratitude to Tom Jackson and all of the WoodenBoat staff and volunteers who made this possible. I also wish to publically thank John S. for allowing me to crew on his CY!

Ron

StevenBauer
08-25-2008, 12:23 PM
Great video, Ron! The rest of the week looks good for an afternoon sail. Give me a call if that works for you. :D


Steven

Russ Manheimer
08-25-2008, 10:15 PM
Bruce Elfstrom, I believe that's you in this pic. Neat rig. What's the insignia?

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3114/2766904702_984301dd17_b.jpg

Nice to meet you on Torrey.

Russ

stevedwyer
08-28-2008, 09:20 PM
Hello All,
Many thanks to Tom Jackson, WoodenBoat and the efforts of all the people who made this fine event possible.

I thought I'd give a try to share photos of some of the great folks and boats that attended....http://www.sailing-new-england.com/small_reach_regatta_2.html

jim_cricket
08-30-2008, 03:43 PM
Hi folks, I put up a belated post on my blog about small reach, with some text to go along. If you're all not bored with it yet, here it is! http://sailingskiffs.blogspot.com/ It is a decidedly personal view, and there are many, many boats that I don't have photos of. But some are okay. Jim Luton Windward skiff Cricket

OEX
11-07-2008, 01:26 PM
hey Russ---nice to meet you too. Sorry for being out of the loop here, but I just surfaced from my busy time of year at the "office". Thanks for the pix of Pagan, its the first time I have seen her sailing. The insignia is a Viking/old Icelandic magic symbol to give protection when crossing water and traveling ---I have this as a tattoo on my arm via an Icelandic night or two.

I very much wished I had been able to stay for all the SRR, but..... I did have a blast that one day out there figuring out all the bits of this newest of my designs. I really love this boat. She is very fast rowing -- averaged 5.4 knots crossing reach, and sail, well I seemed to do well enough. She was great in the heavy wind that ushered in the fog on Friday...I flew in to the WB dock/anchorage and clocked 9.6 knots (planning clearly) just before the fog came into the WB. This boat is easy to sail and handle and very very fast and I did not use the full battens (this sail is based on the Goat Island Skiff---great design for sure). I had a great beat up the reach before the fog with a Sea Pearl keeping with me for a bit. I got a close look at one of the white Coquinas, nice stern and nicer bow -- love that design.

Love to know what people thought of my boat and what she looked like while sailing (more pix?). Steve B, said something to me on the beat up, but I missed it....Steve?

On another note I am gathering a group, anyone, to sail Norse Square Sail boats this winter on Long Island. We have a 32 ft station Nordlands boat we can use (Pat Nelson's) and four - six faerings, etc. Spread the word. Ben, Steve, Clint. Russ.....????

Cheers, Bruce

OEX
11-07-2008, 01:31 PM
Dan.....

I was right behind you in the 18 knotter and fog on Friday. I had just caught up to you then the wind came up and you pulled away. I was alone and did not have many ballast stones left, so I think I was spilling wind off the top of the lug, just could not keep her flat enough to windward. She never threatened to swamp even with the gusts ...... But down wind---bit of a pucker 10 on that one ---9.6 knots for 11 seconds!

I will look to see if I got some pix of you just as we got in before the fog. I think I remember two dories such as yours right at that time, yes?

Ben Fuller
11-08-2008, 08:47 AM
Love to know what people thought of my boat and what she looked like while sailing (more pix?). Steve B, said something to me on the beat up, but I missed it....Steve?

On another note I am gathering a group, anyone, to sail Norse Square Sail boats this winter on Long Island. We have a 32 ft station Nordlands boat we can use (Pat Nelson's) and four - six faerings, etc. Spread the word. Ben, Steve, Clint. Russ.....????

Cheers, Bruce

Looks to me like you are giving away waterline length light.

Bruce, I can't remember if you have hiking straps in that puppy? Was your butt over the rail? They go faster. You would have enjoyed the run I did in the faering out to Vinalhaven later on in 25 plus. Horrible shape in a reefed lug so maybe 55 feet doing better than 6 for most of the way on a beam reach. I think I touched 8 a couple of times. Butt on the rail, only took one lop of a green sea aboard.

Then we went out in Lance's new Med boat, Tremolino with a big lateen. That was amusing. Lesson learned like you can't lower the sail in a breeze unless you furl it first other wise the bunt can blow over top of the mast head.

When do you plan for the Norse winter sail? Where? I'd need to plan so that a snow pile would not be in front of the knaust.

ben

Russ Manheimer
11-08-2008, 11:37 AM
Hi Bruce,

Sorry, that's the only photo I have. Interested in the Square Sail outing. Details?

Russ

Clinton B Chase
11-08-2008, 01:55 PM
Ben, I will certainly be well aquanted with Drake by next August complete with a dippling lug and a choice of many oars, and would love to look forward to a cross-bay cruise. Great idea.

Cheers,
Clint

Sadly I cannot do the SRR ever again if this new date stays constant. I put on a major boatbuilding event that weekend. If I go pro or change careers again (both about as likely!) that day will free up.

However, Drake will be rearing to go so I'll be wanting to do a trip x Penobscot Bay or perhaps down from F'man Bay.

Drake and I will be showing at the 2009 WBS.

Cheers,
Clint

Ben Fuller
11-08-2008, 02:44 PM
SRR date is purely tide dependent. It has to come before or after the Eggemoggin Reach regatta and the Maine Boat Homes and Harbors show. People actually like August better but the weekend that we have been using had bad tides.

OEX
11-09-2008, 11:54 AM
Looks to me like you are giving away waterline length light.

Bruce, I can't remember if you have hiking straps in that puppy? Was your butt over the rail? They go faster. You would have enjoyed the run I did in the faering out to Vinalhaven later on in 25 plus. Horrible shape in a reefed lug so maybe 55 feet doing better than 6 for most of the way on a beam reach. I think I touched 8 a couple of times. Butt on the rail, only took one lop of a green sea aboard.

Then we went out in Lance's new Med boat, Tremolino with a big lateen. That was amusing. Lesson learned like you can't lower the sail in a breeze unless you furl it first other wise the bunt can blow over top of the mast head.

When do you plan for the Norse winter sail? Where? I'd need to plan so that a snow pile would not be in front of the knaust.

ben


This design is flat bottomed and very light....so the bow can show light. At the SRR i did not have the trim right until the second 1/2 of Friday. After that she was trimmed better, but she does have a rocker and flat bottom almost like Gilles Montaubin's(sp?) Wabi. This allows for a better planability and control of it, i.e the long keel in the faerings plans, but it can sneak up on you when you are not ready. I must admit that the only thing I do not like about this design is the transition from bow stem to bottom, its too abrupt. I think I might shape the stem a bit and have a short forward keel to transition into. The stern skeg really does wonders for tracking , no keel needed. At about 125lbs empty, this boat is very fast on oars. Alone I have no problem getting to close to 6 knots and even forcing a short plan. She has two sliding seats, so 5 knots for hours is easy. The flat bottom does slap a bit, but she is sharp enough to not be stopped by the slap, much smoother flow than my various faerings in terms of constant speed, but she does get a bit of noise going. Oh well all things are trade offs. Sail and oar, they both can't be perfect at the same time. My first design comes about too slow for my tastes, as do the faerings, so thus the flat bottom and rocker build.

I do think she is a bit faster with two people or when i take in ballast, ..... maybe being a bit more flat and having the bow in the water for longer water line length?....at least that's my thought. She is very dry and has yet to take in anything. However, at 125 lbs empty, and i am 230lbs or so, she reacts fast to human ballast, so she is a bit high spirited, you have to be on your toes in anything over 15-20knots. I use the sliding seat to hike with (yes my ass was out a bit in the 20knots at the SRR, but not too much as I was just in higher winds for the first time so I had a lot to think about and wanted to sit calm in the gusts. If I loose a wind when hiking too much, I will take in water---I think my 230 butt 18 inches off the gunwale will take in water if I am not fast enough. That bit of wind was wildly gusty off the outside (south) of Torrey Is and Little Babson. I sit in the slider when not too hard on the wind. Down wind you can slide on the seat to position yourself or to stop/start a plan.....very cool floaty feeling to glide forward to grab something or back to as you wish...kinda free feeling.. Nice inadvertent byproduct and your ass does not hurt after 10 hours.

Add the flat bottom, light weight, and the centerboard slot flush and this is one crazy fast boat off the wind, esp. for her length. Very reactive and moves in a mouse fart of air.

I did have hull flex in mind (ala Viking ship) with the design and she does flex at least as much as my longer Faerings. This is why I used small frames copper riveted instead of epoxy frames. Being so small (19'6") and light I'm not sure if it has any benefit, but I like the idea. However, with the flex in mind, I arranged the main's sheeting to be spread off three points on the boom and two on the hull. I try and image that she flexes with the sea (an she does a bit), but not the force of the sail and wind.

I think the thing that makes her go to windward so well was the time spent on the NACA board and rudder---4ft and 2.75 respectively. She just crawls upwind very close. The big (ish) balanced lug up front helps too. The balanced lug is "self emptying" when forced too much so she has a very cool and calm sail control. Body shifts, however, need to be thought through until you are used to her spirit. I can stand, with care, on the gunwale and she will not take in water even with the mast in (although they are carbon so add very little weight up high). I did have some fun sailing by a bunch of lasers on Newport harbor in about 15knots of wind---they were less than impressed.

I have not sailed her withthe full length battens, how do you think that will change things?

so...
Down Sides - a bit too reactive/spirited for family use, not the nicest stem to bottom transition in the world, rudder transition is not great either nor is the hardware. I will smooth both transitions and get rudder hardware for faerings from Classic Maine in UK.

Upside - fast, light, tough, simple, big enough for three adults, very user friendly (rig and de-rig in less than 2.5 mins.). Faering/Norse enough for beauty, but sails and rows like a modern techy design without the Clorox bottle look.

I tried to make a Raid winner, and it seems to have worked.

Norse Boat Sailing with Pat....well that is what I want to see. How many people want to do it and when can they do it. I was thinking about one weekend a month for a few months. Maybe drysuit weather, but.....? Spread the word Ben and let me know what works for you---wanna bring some of your boats down>?

Ben did you get any pix of my boat? Do you know much about Spissbats? I think that is the faering I found in Southwest Harbor. If you remember I showed you some fresh pix of her.

Cheers, Bruce

OEX
11-09-2008, 12:05 PM
Hi Bruce,

Sorry, that's the only photo I have. Interested in the Square Sail outing. Details?

Russ
Hey Russ, when can you do it. I am thinking one weekend a month through the winter. I run the WBRF classes one weekend a month and the group finds that easy enough to keep scheduled.

Ideas? I will have to run this by Pat of course. It would be great to get Chip Stulen, John Ethridge, Mark Swanson, etc down---you guys up for it? Any and all Faerings or other Norse are welcome. Not sure if we can build a faering and learn to sail in 4-6 weekends...but it would not be wasted time I think!

Skol, Bruce

Clinton B Chase
11-09-2008, 12:58 PM
Bruce's Faering Pictures

http://www.woodenboat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=88214

Bruce, looks great. This is a prototype, so changes are inevitable. I have a number of changes in mind already from the construction standpoint.

Drake is here...

http://www.woodenboat.com/forum/showthread.php?p=2004935#post2004935

Unfortunately, she won't see the SRR this year.