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TimH
06-07-2008, 04:31 AM
talk about escaping by the skin of your teeth...:eek:


HICKAM AIR FORCE BASE, Hawaii (AP) -- The Air Force said the first crash of a B-2 stealth bomber was caused by moisture in sensors and estimated the loss of the aircraft at $1.4 billion.
http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2008/US/06/06/crash.ap/art.bomber.ap.jpg The Air Force stopped flying B-2 stealth bombers for two months after the crash.


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The crash probably could have been avoided if knowledge of a technique to evaporate the moisture had been disseminated throughout the B-2 program, Maj. Gen. Floyd L. Carpenter, who headed an accident investigation board, said Thursday.
The Spirit of Kansas abruptly pitched up, rolled and yawed to the left February 23 before plunging to the ground at Andersen Air Force Base on the island of Guam. Both pilots ejected safely just after the left wing made contact with the ground; it was the first crash since the maiden B-2 flights nearly 20 years ago.
"It was just by the grace of God that they were safe, and the good [ejection] system," Carpenter said.
Water distorted preflight readings in three of the plane's 24 sensors, making the aircraft's control computer force the B-2 to pitch up on takeoff, resulting in a stall and subsequent crash. http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/.element/img/2.0/mosaic/tabs/video.gifWatch $1.4 billion aircraft crash to the ground » (http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/06/06/crash.ap/index.html#cnnSTCVideo)
Carpenter said the pilots and crew followed procedures and "the aircraft actually performed as it was designed. In other words, all the systems were functioning normally."
However, a technique learned by some two years ago that had gone widely unknown and unadopted probably would have prevented the crash, Carpenter said. The technique essentially heats the sensors and evaporates any moisture before data calibrations.



"This technique was never formalized in a technical order change or captured in 'lessons learned' reports. Hence, only some pilots and some maintenance technicians knew of the suggestion," according to Carpenter's executive summary of the accident.
The report said, "The human factor of communicating critical information was a contributing factor to this mishap."
The general said his responsibility was solely for the investigation of the crash and added that the report was forwarded to commanding officers to determine whether any disciplinary measures are required.
The sensors measure air pressure to help calculate everything from airspeed to altitude. Because of the bad data, flight computers had inaccurate airspeed and wrongly indicated a downward angle, which contributed to an early rotation and uncontrolled 30-degree pitch up.
Carpenter said the lack of altitude and airspeed prevented the pilots from correcting the aircraft.
Guam, 3,700 miles southwest of Hawaii, is known for its humidity. But the Air Force (http://topics.cnn.com/topics/U_S_Air_Force_Activities) said water in the sensors never caused any problems.
The Spirit was delivered in February 1995 and expected to be in service for another 50 years.
The bomber had been returning to Whiteman Air Force Base in Missouri, where the 21-plane fleet is based. The Air Force grounded the B-2s after the crash and resumed flying them in late April.



Carpenter said procedures and policies are now in place to guard against similar crashes.
"It's fortunate the crew was able to safely eject. It's unfortunate, however, that we lost one of our nation's penetrating bombers," said Gen. Carrol H. Chandler, commander of Pacific Air Forces

The Bigfella
06-07-2008, 04:42 AM
I wonder if this qualifies as a warranty claim? It looked "impressive" when I saw it on the news.

WX
06-07-2008, 05:16 AM
Ouch! $1.4 Billion is a lot of money in anybodies language.
How many P51D Mustangs is that? :D

Pernicious Atavist
06-07-2008, 07:07 AM
about a million...and not as purty!

David Tabor (sailordave)
06-07-2008, 07:19 AM
about a million...and not as purty!

Maybe when they were NEW.
Now 1.4B would get you about 1000 P-51's.:p


I had just read this article before going to the Bilge. Still shake my head at the thought of 1.4B clams....:eek:

Taylor Tarvin
06-07-2008, 07:49 AM
"the aircraft actually performed as it was designed. In other words, all the systems were functioning normally."

So it was supposed to do that?

The Gentleman Sawyer
06-07-2008, 07:54 AM
This happened in Feb. Does anyone remember reading anything about it then?

Ken

The Bigfella
06-07-2008, 08:30 AM
This happened in Feb. Does anyone remember reading anything about it then?

The Air Force covered it up until Tylerdurden got banned.

John of Phoenix
06-07-2008, 09:44 AM
Did you see that fire? Half that 1.4 billion was fuel.

Michael s/v Sannyasin
06-07-2008, 09:57 AM
what's that... about 4 gallons?

Seriously, those guys had almost no time between the question "can I fly out of this stall" and the answer "no". Amazing.

Pernicious Atavist
06-07-2008, 10:02 AM
I saw it on TV the day, maybe the day after, it happened. A retired USAF crewchief, it made my skin crawl.

Those damn ejection seats--talk about the best thing since sliced bread! And crew reaction time? "OH-sh"-wooosh!

Andrew Craig-Bennett
06-07-2008, 11:59 AM
They each get one of these:

http://www.martin-baker.com/getfile/0c4f557e-73bc-463f-8eff-1866d0db1fc0/tieclub1.aspx

Most expensive membership fee yet!

BrianW
06-07-2008, 12:02 PM
Didn't earn the Broken Wing award, as they didn't bring the bird back in one piece.

Paul Girouard
06-07-2008, 01:26 PM
Didn't earn the Broken Wing award, as they didn't bring the bird back in one piece.




Andrews post was a ejection seat award given by Martin-Baker who makes most, if not all , US military ejection seats.

Never heard of the Broken Wing award :confused: we had a couple of aircrew who rated the M/B award , it is not given posthumously.

paladin
06-07-2008, 01:36 PM
I have a little gold worm......Parachute companies would pass them out if you had to bail out in one of their chutes and it saved your life.....

Captain Blight
06-07-2008, 02:05 PM
Okay, Paladin, you need to add that story .to your September 1968 thread

The Bigfella
06-07-2008, 05:42 PM
I've only jumped out of a perfectly serviceable aeroplane once, but it was a lot of fun - out over the ocean at 8,500' - with a little island off to the side to aim at.

I don't fancy being in an unserviceable aeroplane at all.

Back to the B2 - I wonder if the leftover bits will turn up at a disposal centre?

Vince Brennan
06-07-2008, 06:03 PM
WHAT "leftover" bits?

Andrew Craig-Bennett
06-07-2008, 06:05 PM
I must say I admire the telemetry and the skills of the crash investigators.

pila
06-07-2008, 07:17 PM
A few months worth of the Irag war will pay for a few more B2s.
I'm sure those guys couldn't get that wing to come up, and had to figure that out fast. So much for flying by wire. Hopefully the maintenance information will prevent more wasted airplanes.
I'm sure most of you have seen the A6 that rolled to the right when leaving a carrier, and the guys punched out when the bank was about 90 degrees. Amazing! Like mentioned above, ejection seats are a great step.

paladin
06-07-2008, 08:31 PM
Captain Blight....that incident happened before the 1968 September thread started....

Rigadog
06-07-2008, 09:28 PM
Big Coverup. I have it from a reliable source that this plane was hit by a UFO - Foofighter.