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seanz
05-25-2008, 09:40 PM
I read somewhere that there is a looming oil crisis and that food prices may be on the rise.........given that this may indeed be true, I was wondering if any formites were taking steps to secure their own food supply, planting a garden, perhaps?
A popular activity during other times of conflict,


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/03/Sow_victory_poster_usgovt.gif
from
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victory_garden

My garden season won't start for a little while yet (Garlic gets planted on the shortest day) but I'm sure some of our Nth Hemisphere members gardens are all go.
I've almost nothing in the garden at the moment, just some cabbages, some Brussel sprouts (controversy!!!) Silverbeet 'spring onions, some leeks I need to turn into soup and the usual parsley etc.. (but no munition plant :D ) as I've done all the Autumn harvesting a few weeks ago (Pumpkins, last of the spuds etc...)

Anybody else?

Paul Girouard
05-25-2008, 09:54 PM
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b299/PEG688/May102008.jpg


May 10th

Every year for the past 5 or so. Smaller is better. I used to have a 25 x40 patch , to much couldn't eat it all , as it is I give away about a little less 1/2 of what I currently grow.

coelacanth2
05-25-2008, 09:55 PM
Ours has been in 3 weeks now. Have had some rather cold glum weather, followed by heavy rain and wind that has caused about 50% replant. Rototiller down, too, can't turn in the winter wheat we put in as a cover crop, or the oats for the deer. Will have corn, sweet potatos, string, green, and wax beans, Doc Martin's pole limas , 4 types of tomatos, beets and lettuce, carrots, radishes, parsley and lotsa basil. Waterrmelons, squash, gourds, and pumpkins, too. Raspberries are blooming like mad, the new cherry trees will have a small crop this year, as will the blueberries. Oh, and sweet and hot pepprs, too.:D

botebum
05-25-2008, 09:59 PM
This is not a recent picture. Lots greener now.
http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h92/botebum/Ash%20House/IMG_3483.jpg

Doug

S/V Laura Ellen
05-25-2008, 10:00 PM
This is not a recent picture. Lots greener now.
http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h92/botebum/Ash%20House/IMG_3483.jpg

Doug

Kind of small isn't it?:D

seanz
05-25-2008, 10:15 PM
Every year for the past 5 or so. Smaller is better. I used to have a 25 x40 patch , to much couldn't eat it all , as it is I give away about a little less 1/2 of what I currently grow.

Nice plot.
Ours is now smaller than it was and much more under control....I hope.


Ours has been in 3 weeks now. Have had some rather cold glum weather, followed by heavy rain and wind that has caused about 50% replant. Rototiller down, too, can't turn in the winter wheat we put in as a cover crop, or the oats for the deer. Will have corn, sweet potatos, string, green, and wax beans, Doc Martin's pole limas , 4 types of tomatos, beets and lettuce, carrots, radishes, parsley and lotsa basil. Waterrmelons, squash, gourds, and pumpkins, too. Raspberries are blooming like mad, the new cherry trees will have a small crop this year, as will the blueberries. Oh, and sweet and hot pepprs, too.:D


Doc Martin's pole limas
Might look for some of those..I like lima beans. Lima bean and pumpkin curry....yum.
We have frosts here so the odd replant is on the cards...tomatoes got zapped last year, of the replant only the cherrys were any good, I've tried romas three times now and that's the last time till I get a greenhouse wherein there will be peppers and CHILLIES! as well.
Just edged the raspberry patch to try and control it......next step is some frames, we get a good crop but we get so much extra cane growth it makes it hard to harvest.

botebum
05-25-2008, 10:16 PM
Kind of small isn't it?:D
The garden is ⅓ acre. We hope to cut our food bill by ⅔ this year between the garden, pigs, and egg and meat chickens.

Doug

seanz
05-25-2008, 10:26 PM
This is not a recent picture. Lots greener now.
Doug

You've posted that pic before and I'm still as impressed as the first time.:)
Is that's what's known as a truck patch/garden?
I've heard the term before and never got a good description of what it is, I would call that a market garden.

botebum
05-25-2008, 10:38 PM
I'm not familiar with the term "truck patch garden". As far as it being a "market garden", we don't have plans to sell any produce this year from it. We do sell surplus eggs. Next year we plan to put pumpkins and watermelons in part of our back acre and sell them at the road.We may also do heirloom tomatoes. We live on a fairly direct route between I-95 and the beaches. Lots of weekend and holiday traffic.

Doug

Paul Girouard
05-25-2008, 10:44 PM
Doug is this the your first year? If you get any type of yeild you'll need to sell or give stuff away. You can't eat that much produce before it goes bad.

Up dated photo just down loaded, May 25th

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b299/PEG688/May25200824.jpg

botebum
05-25-2008, 10:48 PM
Canning, freezing, etc. is on the agenda. Chickens and pigs tend to help out as well.

Doug

Paul Girouard
05-25-2008, 10:53 PM
There ya go ! Feed the critters:cool:

PeterSibley
05-25-2008, 11:01 PM
Last year's garden ,every year for the last 25 or so .Kind of small ,just 7 14' x 4' beds plus a couple of compost bins .

http://pic40.picturetrail.com/VOL282/9443996/17245530/281094346.jpg

seanz
05-25-2008, 11:11 PM
I'm not familiar with the term "truck patch garden". As far as it being a "market garden", we don't have plans to sell any produce this year from it. We do sell surplus eggs. Next year we plan to put pumpkins and watermelons in part of our back acre and sell them at the road.We may also do heirloom tomatoes. We live on a fairly direct route between I-95 and the beaches. Lots of weekend and holiday traffic.

Doug

I'm after some heirloom tomatoes this year.....we'll see what happens.

Truck garden or truck patch...........


When I was young, my grandmother had a farm and did extensive gardening. She had a garden behind the house and another behind the barn. We called the garden behind the barn the truck patch or the truck garden. I wonder how this term originated. Our family lives in Indiana—I wonder if this was a local or Midwestern term. A. Thank you for your question about truck patch and truck garden. We bet your grandmother's second garden was a vegetable garden. This particular sense of truck means "vegetables grown for market." We don't have any evidence that this use of truck originated in Indiana, but it is an Americanism.
The word truck, a verb meaning "to give in exchange" or "to barter," entered English in the 13th century from the Middle English trukken, the Anglo-French truker and troker, and the Vulgar Latin troccare. By the middle of the 16th century, truck was being used as a noun meaning "barter" or "commodities appropriate for barter or small trade." It's possible to see a connection between these senses and the "vegetables grown for market" sense of truck. (The truck describing an automotive vehicle, incidentally, comes from a different source; it probably comes from a back-formation of truckle, "a small wheel or pulley.")
The first known use of the "vegetables" sense of truck appeared in an advertisement in the Maryland Journal on December 14, 1784: "he has provided a large room, with a stove, for his customers to lodge in, and deposit their market-truck." It's impossible to know where truck was first used in speech. Whether it originated in Maryland or not, its usage spread to other parts of the country. Truck was often used in combination; truck farmer, for instance, is in Merriam-Webster's Collegiate Dictionary, Eleventh Edition, and citations for truck patch and truck garden show that it began to appear in different regions, including Kentucky, New York, and Colorado. It now appears to be in widespread use throughout the country.
fromhttp://www.word.com/unabridged/archives/2006/06/from_the_mail_s_10.html

:o
Things I knew before google........things I knew after google.
:D

I heard the term truck garden years ago (knew it was a U.S. term) and wondered what it was then along came the internet and I just hadn't got around to searching for it yet.
:rolleyes:

And selling surplus?
Victory Garden bonus points.
:D

PeterSibley
05-25-2008, 11:25 PM
How about just giving it away ? :D

Tylerdurden
05-26-2008, 06:08 AM
Right now I am growing fiberglass because the agreed upon load of topsoil and manure never arrived.
Still have a load of non hybrid seed waiting to go though.
I wish more would get involved in this.

coelacanth2
05-26-2008, 07:32 AM
SeanZ
I'd send you some, but I don't think our respective ag. regulatory agencies would appreciate it. If you can't find them there, I have a neighbor who is an inspector, he might be able to help.
Doc Martin's are limas on steroids - a big one might run 3cm long. Breeds true, so can be dried and replanted next year.

coelacanth2
05-26-2008, 07:34 AM
Of course, there's always,"don't ask, don't tell"

Russ Manheimer
05-26-2008, 09:53 AM
Most of our gardening is of the perennial sort but we do have four 24 square foot raised beds that supply us with salads, tomatoes and herbs.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2157/2502569123_643188cf96_b.jpg

Paul Girouard
05-26-2008, 09:55 AM
Most of our gardening is of the perennial sort but we do have four 24 square foot raised beds that supply us with salads, tomatoes and herbs.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2157/2502569123_643188cf96_b.jpg


Nice Russ :cool: , who's the lead gardener, you or your bride? Sort of a English country garden look .

botebum
05-26-2008, 11:09 AM
Here's a photo taken just a few minutes ago-
http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h92/botebum/Ash%20House/IMG_3613.jpg
Onions(3 varieties), tomatoes(12 varieties), beans(2 varieties), peppers(too many varieties to count), corn(2 varieties), okra, cukes, pickles, zukes, radishes, lettuce(sadly only one vaiety), broccoli, tomatillos, and I can't remember what all else. The red bit at the left is Tonya, busy weeding. I yanked out a tomatillo plant by mistake and was banned from weeding;)

Doug

crawdaddyjim50
05-26-2008, 05:18 PM
I wish that was all I had to do to get banned! :D

Russ Manheimer
05-26-2008, 06:32 PM
Thanks Paul. The head gardeners title is worn by me. I'm a big fan of the classic Victorian landscapers; Jekyll and the rest.

paladin
05-26-2008, 07:17 PM
Any one remember "Bad Boys Rape Our Young Girls Behind Victory Garden Walls"?

Paul Girouard
05-26-2008, 07:21 PM
Any one remember "Bad Boys Rape Our Young Girls Behind Victory Garden Walls"?



Something about the color and value of resistors , from B.E.E. Basic Electricity and Electronics USN Training Command , Millington, Tenn.

So ya I remember something about it , just not much:o :D

seanz
05-26-2008, 07:28 PM
Never heard of it, searched and found this.....


Bad beer rots our young guts, but vodka goes well; get some now

Who knew?
:)

paladin
05-26-2008, 07:58 PM
The clean version was "Bad Booze Rots Our Young Guts But Vodka Goes Well"......Yup. Resistance color code.....WWII era.....

S/V Laura Ellen
05-26-2008, 08:02 PM
Any one remember "Bad Boys Rape Our Young Girls Behind Victory Garden Walls"?

I was taught "Bad Boys Rape Our Young Girls But Violet Gives Willingly". I like my version better.

Somehow I don't think that they teach this in public school anymore.

Canoez
05-26-2008, 10:03 PM
Russ, are you using stone for the sides of the raised beds as well as the walkway in those pictures?

seanz
05-27-2008, 05:39 PM
SeanZ
I'd send you some, but I don't think our respective ag. regulatory agencies would appreciate it. If you can't find them there, I have a neighbor who is an inspector, he might be able to help.
Doc Martin's are limas on steroids - a big one might run 3cm long. Breeds true, so can be dried and replanted next year.

Thanks but no thanks.....it's not just customs or quarantine that I worry about. I have some friends that are very 'Green' if they found out I might get "composted with extreme prejudice" :eek:
:D

Spin_Drift
05-27-2008, 06:00 PM
Wow, your gardens are beautiful.:D:D:D

I wish I could have one this year, but I won't get to Alaska in time to start one and will not do one here anymore as we are leaving this place.:(

David is too busy working 12 to 14 hour days X7, to start to clear land for a garden. It'll have to wait till I get there...

Next spring will be the soonest for me...:(

Russ Manheimer
05-27-2008, 06:26 PM
Canoez,

Yes, they're 2' by 2' bluestone flags, set in trenches so the top is about six inches above grade. My brother Bob and I set it up a number of years ago. About a dozen steps from the kitchen door. Great to eat salads cut moments before dinner.

Spin,

Look forward to seeing Alaskan garden pics next spring.


Russ

Rigadog
05-27-2008, 09:45 PM
Now we just have Stalemate Gardens.

Paul Girouard
06-29-2008, 09:32 PM
Updated garden photos ,

Spud patch , for new potatoes,

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b299/PEG688/June292008series23.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b299/PEG688/June292008series24.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b299/PEG688/June292008series25.jpg

Where on our third crop of spinach , and about the same on lettuce, radishes and onions. Peas are not doing much this year cold spring , summer got here yesterday , it may stay awhile now . PNW has been colder than normal strawberry's and peas and other warm weather crops have been slow all around I hear.

J. Dillon
06-29-2008, 09:41 PM
You guys are amazing. :eek:How do you keep all the varmits off ?:confused:

Johanna and I lost every strawberry on our litle patch and the chip monks are cleaning out the green tomatoes one by one.:(

Today the birds are eyeballing the blue & rasberries.:(

I need to rent a hawk.;)

We did join a co op farm where you do so many hours of work and pay some cash up front. We had our first harvest of lettuce last monday and this monday maybe some more.:)

JD

seanz
06-29-2008, 09:50 PM
Well, not much is happening here (except a lot of rain) but the strawberry patch has been tidied up and the garlic is in, just about on time too.
:)

botebum
06-30-2008, 11:34 AM
Here's an updated pic of the garden-
http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h92/botebum/Ash%20House/IMG_3905.jpg

We've been harvesting some stuff. Anyone like pickled jalapenos or hot pickled green 'maters?
http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h92/botebum/Ash%20House/IMG_3901.jpg

Doug

Spin_Drift
06-30-2008, 03:00 PM
Doug, fantastic, beautiful... You're getting a lot of crops out of there this year... Nothing better than food you eat during the rest of the year, knowing you grew and canned it...

Paul yours is really beautiful too. Lot of nice food from a smaller garden. Very well kept and organized...

Russ and Peter, post some photo updates, please...

Paul Girouard
07-05-2008, 08:47 PM
Bump for updated photos.


Picked the two rows of spinach a couple of days ago . So I replanted two more rows of spinach , and filled in some places with iceberg lettuce seed. Strawberries are finally riping , and looks like we'll have a decent crop of grapes this year , the 5 or 6 year of this grape vines life.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b299/PEG688/July5200811.jpg


http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b299/PEG688/July5200812.jpg


http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b299/PEG688/July5200813.jpg

paladin
07-05-2008, 09:05 PM
I also managaed to get about 2 gallons of candle corn and okra from the larger plants. I need larger buckets for some of the plants. I cleaned and pickled the okra, and just steamed and canned the candle corn. It didn't take long.
Went to Walmart grocery store last week, You can buy meat pretty inexpensive compared to Safeway and Giant, I brought a load home and repacked it for the freezer. I loaded up on onions, carrots, spuds, celery etc and made a three gallon pot of beef stew, packed it into quart jars, and canned it for the shelf, used some of the stuff to make spaghetti sauce and chili, canned it also, and cut up some ham and bacon, and processed it also......just in case the refridgerator dies. Need apples and peaches next.

hansp77
07-05-2008, 09:11 PM
Great thread- it gives me much vicarious green-thumb satisfaction.

I wish we could grow a garden here- unfortunately our inner city possums eat anything even remotely non-toxic.
Keep up the updates:)


EDIT- and Doug- how do you do your "hot pickled green 'maters"?