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Michael Beckman
04-14-2008, 08:21 PM
Thing finally came in the mail. I can now operate vessels over 15 hp. Real useful. Basically I've just got a card I'll never use, because I don't use powerboats ever. Good to have I suppose. Its required for everyone under 22 or something now, with the age going up year after year. This is all for Washington, I dunno what other states are doing.

willmarsh3
04-14-2008, 11:32 PM
Congratulations.

For operating a boat (sail or power) Alabama requires a "V" on the drivers license to show that one has taken a boating safety course. IMHO education is the best way to get folks to do the right thing and avoid problems.

BrianW
04-14-2008, 11:46 PM
If you never use powerboats, ever, why did ya get a card?

Michael Beckman
04-14-2008, 11:51 PM
Did it with my class at school. Its a card for life, and everybody is gonna need one in a few years. Better to have than not.

C. Ross
04-14-2008, 11:56 PM
Give in to the dark side, Michael. Feel the force of the powerboat...with it you can do great things.

Michael Beckman
04-14-2008, 11:59 PM
I have an excellent way of resisting that temptation. A very thin/light wallet. :P I like the feel of the wind pushing me along, or of pulling myself around with a nice pair of oars. So far I'm in love with inefficient boats. Those racing dingies bore me.

S B
04-15-2008, 12:01 AM
Times have certainly changed. When I was 15 and wanted to borrow someones boat, the only question I was ever asked was" d'ya know how to tie'er on?" Not, do you know how to handle it, can you swim or even does your old man approve. As long as the boat was where it should be in the morning.:)

Michael Beckman
04-15-2008, 12:04 AM
I see it as a good thing, theres too many idiots out there blasting around on jet skis and bayliners..

BETTY-B
04-15-2008, 12:22 AM
What kind of boat, over 15hp, did you test with, Michael?

DAN

Michael Beckman
04-15-2008, 12:24 AM
No test. Its all out of a book and a video. This isnt a drivers license. It was dead easy to pass the tests. Simple rule of road stuff, safety stuff, some navigation stuff. Nothing that most people couldn't get down easily.

Also, the only motoring I've done has been on Martha. Not really the same.

BETTY-B
04-15-2008, 12:31 AM
What kind of safety stuff did it teach? Motor safety stuff?

Michael Beckman
04-15-2008, 12:34 AM
Yeah. Fires, exhaust, proper ventilation, fuel stuff. Also standard first aid stuff applied to boats a bit better. The course was designed with the average boater on a jet ski or powerboat out for a day trip. They covered sailing a tiny bit also, but not enough to really be of any use.

Yeadon
04-15-2008, 01:19 AM
I hate tests, licenses, and regulation ... for myself. Maybe this is a good idea overall, though. I think I like it because I'll never be included among those who have to be tested.

Rules and road coupled with first aid content sounds worthwhile. The best education, for me, comes from going out on the water with more experienced people who actually know what their doing. Odds are, they learned the same way.

Michael Beckman
04-15-2008, 01:28 AM
Do you have a captains license? otherwise you will need to get one.

2008 12 years to 20 years old 2009 25 years and under 2010 30 years and under 2011 35 years and under 2012 40 years and under 2013 50 years and under 2014 60 years and under After 2014 All boat operators except those exempted elsewhere in RCW 79A.60.640

Yeadon
04-15-2008, 01:34 AM
Hmmmm ... I'll get my card in 2012 ... just in time for the second term of the Obama administration. I can live with that.

BETTY-B
04-15-2008, 01:48 AM
Same here, but it will be the McCain Admin. Of course nobody will want to see my boat license then. Just the guns and ammo me and BETTY-B will be dropping off to the freedom fighters for the resistance.

DAN

Yeadon
04-15-2008, 01:51 AM
The freedom fighters will not be happy about having to get a Boaters Card.

GoldDogs
04-15-2008, 03:31 AM
jeeze, i left my school with a ACMA composites certificate and a travel lift certification. They are phasing in ABYC courses now.

I think Maine just started a boat program for youngsters 16 and younger?

Gary E
04-15-2008, 07:24 AM
And public schools waste taxpayers money teaching THAT????
no wonder the usa is going down the crapper...

S.V. Airlie
04-15-2008, 07:34 AM
Congratulations.

For operating a boat (sail or power) Alabama requires a "V" on the drivers license to show that one has taken a boating safety course. IMHO education is the best way to get folks to do the right thing and avoid problems.

That's too simple.. CT requires an entirely different piece of plastic for a boater's lic. As in one that costs 25 bucks.:rolleyes:

capt jake
04-15-2008, 08:05 AM
Hmmmm ... I'll get my card in 2012 ... just in time for the second term of the Obama administration. I can live with that.
Looks like I am due in 2014. Maybe they will repeal it by then.:rolleyes: I gave in on the motorcycle endorsement this year. Haven't ridden in so long that I didn't see the point anymore.

Anyway, I have a few years to study.:D:D

Michael Beckman
04-15-2008, 03:20 PM
And public schools waste taxpayers money teaching THAT????
no wonder the usa is going down the crapper...

No. Not through the public school system, and also it didn't cost money to take the course.

Yeadon
04-15-2008, 04:12 PM
So it was the state government. Same taxpayers.

Upon reflection, I'm actually not against this. Can't hurt to have a few less uneducated yahoos on the water. They'll still be yahoos, but with just a bit more education.

Yeadon
04-15-2008, 04:14 PM
So it was the state government. Same taxpayers.

Upon reflection, I'm actually not against this. Can't hurt to have a few less uneducated yahoos on the water. They'll still be yahoos, but with just a bit more education.

Michael Beckman
04-15-2008, 04:25 PM
Government for the issuing of the card.

One of the captains for my boating class got certified to teach the course, and did it within the class for free. It was not a standard public highschool deal though, as I'm part of an alternative program. Any costs would be negligable.. and yeah, I agree that its good to let people know that port is in fact the left side of the boat. (one of the questions was "which side is port")

S.V. Airlie
04-16-2008, 09:54 AM
You should look at the test first. A five yr old could pass it without much trouble.
Nope, doesn't slow down anyone on the water from doing really stupid things..

Example..And the usual heads up.. First thing the state did was take away his Boater Safety Card.

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Posted July 8, 2007
Updated 10:05 PM
(Old Saybrook-WTNH) _ A boating accident on the Connecticut River has left one woman dead.
The weekend sun provided an open invitation for boaters to escape to the water, but that tranquility was shortened around 4 o'clock Sunday afternoon when an emergency call went out over the Coast Guard radio.
"The bottom line is the errant boat smacked into a sailboat and all those people in the sailboat went overboard and they got really injured," said witness Kathy Murray.
Officials from the State Department of Environmental Protection say the collision between the two boats happened just south of the Baldwin Bridge. An unmanned 20-foot center console motorboat violently connected with a 14-foot sailboat, sending 4-people in the water. Kathy Murray saw the motorboat going around in circles.
"It was going around and around and circling around and around very quickly. It was very fast. We decided we needed to back off," said Murray.
The operator of the motorboat, 44-year-old Gregory Siege of Madison, was found in the water and later taken into custody by police. He was charged with first degree reckless operation while under the influence of alcohol or drugs. It is unclear how he fell out of the boat.
One victim was taken to an area hospital by ambulance while two other victims were transported to the hospital via Lifestar helicopter.
As DEP crews escorted both boats back to their headquarters for further investigation, many boaters who witnessed the accident were saddened to see the Fourth of July holiday end so tragically.
"Seeing a boat that is circling around with no captain or anybody steering the boat, it was very frightening," said Murray.
State and local authorities continue to investigate.

pss.. the investigation is going on..And there is a lot more than meets the eye here.

James McMullen
04-16-2008, 10:09 AM
". . .first degree reckless operation . . ."

If someone died because of this I'd say it is a slam-dunk case of vehicular homocide. The speedboat had the complete and total responsibility to avoid the slower moving sailboat. If the operator of that errant boat lost control of his boat, then he is totally responsible.

Didya ever notice the frequent inverse relationship between horsepower and IQ?

MiddleAgesMan
04-16-2008, 10:12 AM
Why has M. Beckmans's name suddenly changed to small font and his number of posts shows "N/A"?

TimH
04-16-2008, 10:14 AM
weird.

S.V. Airlie
04-16-2008, 10:15 AM
". . .first degree reckless operation . . ."

If someone died because of this I'd say it is a slam-dunk case of vehicular homocide. The speedboat had the complete and total responsibility to avoid the slower moving sailboat. If the operator of that errant boat lost control of his boat, then he is totally responsible.

Didya ever notice the frequent inverse relationship between horsepower and IQ?

The point here is that one of the first things DEP ( CT ) did was take away his boater's safety card. Wich to me, suggests he took the test..

TimH
04-16-2008, 11:57 AM
maybe he got kicked out for his monk picture.

Yeadon
04-16-2008, 01:58 PM
No news on Beckman? Nice guy. Hope he gets to come back soon.

BETTY-B
04-16-2008, 02:14 PM
What was the monk picture?

DAN

TimH
04-16-2008, 03:50 PM
What was the monk picture?

DAN

it was in the Dali Lama thread. I was half joking when I said that , but ya never know.

Ransom Cadorette
04-16-2008, 04:15 PM
Michael is fine and will hopefully be back soon. Scot accidently deleted his account rather than unlocking it, so he's sitting at home whining at me to post that he's not dead.

Paul Girouard
04-16-2008, 10:45 PM
Ya sure Ole Mikie got scotted , two this week :eek: Where's that "How many days since the last scotting" thread.

Probably "the scott" heard he was sleeping at the Dalia Lama's gig in Seattle. Omnipotent one's must stick together :D

Good luck Mike take-er cool buddy.

Yeadon
04-16-2008, 11:38 PM
scot has a batphone directly to the dalai lama? wow.

Pierce Nichols
04-17-2008, 12:08 AM
I'd support some regulation aimed at curbing the harbor harley crowd... as long as it is crafted so as to leave decent folk like us alone.

Paul Girouard
04-17-2008, 12:27 AM
scot has a batphone directly to the dalai lama? wow.



Oh no , not a phone :rolleyes: it's a much deeper more cosmic / higher plane / other worldly / not of this world connection.
:D

S.V. Airlie
04-17-2008, 09:16 AM
Oh no , not a phone :rolleyes: it's a much deeper more cosmic / higher plane / other worldly / not of this world connection.
:D

So you are saying it isn't 'Verizon'?

Mad Scientist
04-17-2008, 10:01 AM
I see it as a good thing, theres too many idiots out there blasting around on jet skis and bayliners..

That's the reason that Canada introduced these cards a few years back. I agree with the comments that the test was quite easy.

OTOH, I was talking to a fellow who actually managed to fail the test a few years back - and he was a merchant ship captain, licensed for any tonnage/any ocean. He forgot that a whistle is part of the mandatory small boat safety equipment. They must have been marking very strictly for that session.