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elf
04-03-2008, 06:32 PM
in PA:


Obama's Lama Problem

By Michael Bérubé - April 2, 2008, 8:32AM
Hello again, everyone. I’ve been much too busy with the day job lately, and I’ll have to put off until next week the post I want to write on Obama’s remarkable policy statement on disability (that's a pdf, btw). For now, I just want to note this little curio from today’s papers. It’s a McClatchy Newspapers item filed by one Margaret Talev, and it graces the front page of my own hometown paper, the Centre Daily Times. In it, Ms. Talev visits Hazelton, PA, which, despite being the ancestral home of Obama Girl (I did not know that!), is largely representative of Hillary Clinton’s eastern-PA stronghold. Come with us now to Jimmy’s Quick Lunch, where folks are talking to Ms. Talev about what's on their minds:

Of Obama, Duser said: "I'm not crazy about voting for a colored guy, but that's not why I don't support Obama. I'm not prejudiced. I just like Hillary."
A couple tables over, Jean Fetterman, a foster grandparent, said of Clinton: "Oh, I love her. She's a very intelligent person, and she has her husband who went through this."

She scoffs at the idea of voting for Obama: "I don't want to be a Muslim!" She looks dubious when told Obama is Christian. "Then why did he go see what's-his-name over in Iraq, that Lama?"

Well, this is really just a horrible mashup. First of all, despite the remarks of some of his more enthusiastic surrogates, Obama has not actually said that he will convert all Americans to Islam. And he didn’t go to Iraq, either. Let’s get this straight once and for all: that one time when he went to visit the llama, he wore the traditional garb of Suriname. He did it only because llamas, like illegal Mexicans, are from South America. Any politician, colored or regular, would have done the same.

Sigh. But there you have it – this is now Clinton’s base. This is why the Clinton campaign has been making such strange and credibility-destroying arguments in the past couple of weeks: because those arguments are "credibility-destroying" only among high-information voters. Here, by contrast, are the firewall voters; these are the people the campaign is talking to and depending on. People who might be convinced that Barack Arrogant Obama wasn’t really a real law professor like he says he was. People who can be convinced that Obama thugs are trying to prevent them from voting and participating in our great American democracy. People who think Hussein Obama X is Muslim and that Jeremiah Wright will burn this mother to the ground. And, not least, people who fear that Obama will turn them into a llama.

I call it “Hillary’s New Groove.”

C. Ross
04-03-2008, 06:48 PM
Ouch.

Proof that in Pennsylvania, at least, not all idiots or closet racists are Republicans.

I know politicians are criticized and ridiculed for using simple sound bites and sledge hammer imagery. When the political nabobs critique a candidate for not wearing an American flag lapel pin -- this is exactly why that little stupid stuff matters.

Many people don't think, don't listen, and don't pay attention, so the imagery and simple slogans really count.

CK 17
04-04-2008, 08:12 AM
Is it too late to rebrand him as Barry Obama. I know Mitt Romney tried to Re brand as Pro-Life and it didn't work.

TomF
04-04-2008, 08:24 AM
The one-l lama,
He's a priest.
The two-l llama,
He's a beast.
And I will bet
A silk pajama
There isn't any
Three-l lllama.*

-- Ogden Nash (http://www.cs.rice.edu/~ssiyer/minstrels/index_poet_N.html#Nash)

What kind of l(l(l))ama problem does Barack have?

P.I. Stazzer-Newt
04-04-2008, 08:33 AM
http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/images14/Llama1UpsetCIMG7621.JPG

Joe Dupere
04-04-2008, 08:48 AM
The one-l lama,
He's a priest.
The two-l llama,
He's a beast.
And I will bet
A silk pajama
There isn't any
Three-l lllama.*

-- Ogden Nash (http://www.cs.rice.edu/~ssiyer/minstrels/index_poet_N.html#Nash)

Bangor Daily News - There was a house/barn fire in Dixmont on Saturday. Fire crews from Dixmont, Plymouth and Etna responded. Yes, folks, it was
a three alarmer. (three el lllama).

I wish I could claim credit (or blame), but I believe it goes to Bennett Cerf, who came up with the three el lllama joke after Nash published the poem Tom quoted above.

Joe, FPoP

Phillip Allen
04-04-2008, 08:58 AM
I scanned it Elf...gad! and they let em vote and operate vehicles weighing in excess of 3000 pounds at breakneck speads that exceed 5 mph

elf
04-04-2008, 09:08 AM
What would we ever do without Ogden Nash! Thanks for digging that one out, Tom!

elf
04-04-2008, 09:12 AM
Is it too late to rebrand him as Barry Obama.

Wouldn't make any difference. The opposition would still run a whisper campaign about Osama Obama. It's already long since started.
:(

Cuyahoga Chuck
04-04-2008, 04:49 PM
Hazelton PA is NOT a place to get a feel of what's going on in that state. Hazelton, a place where a posse killed a dozen or more striking miners over 100 years ago, has seen an explosion of Hispanics moving in. It has put a crimp in the availability needed public services and has caused the mayor to initiate a campaign to get rid of any Hispanics who are illegals.
The voters there are under a lot of stress which may effect what they say about the presidential campaign.

johnw
04-04-2008, 07:31 PM
I guess this explains why Obama keeps coming from behind. People become less misinformed in the course of a campaign. Makes kind of a good argument for a long, drawn-out primary season. Unfortunately, high-information voters still have to listen to this stuff month after month while the slower voters catch up.

Osborne Russell
04-05-2008, 02:37 PM
I'm surprised the conservative media haven't trumpeted this woman's ignorance, so that the people who believe Saddam was behind 9-11 look less stupid, by comparison.

elf
04-05-2008, 03:31 PM
We don't know for certain that the conservative media haven't, Osborne. Do some research and let us know for sure!

C. Ross
04-05-2008, 04:08 PM
I imagine just about every vile, awful, untruthful thing you can imagine about all candidates has been posted on a blog, spread through email, or printed on a tshirt or postcard or bumper sticker by now.

Politics is tribal -- it draws people into defining who they are and who they aren't. Objectifying the other guy is hard-wired into us I think.

Maybe a couple of hundred years ago it was shouted epithets and printed broadsheets that never got past the town limits. Today we can pour invective, rumor, hate, bile on each other's beliefs at a thousand miles' distance.

I think the way out is to say "I disagree with you about this thing, but I think you are right about X." You don't have to lose for me to win.

Personally, I'm waiting for an Obama-lama-ding-dong parody. And a McCain and McAbel song. Can't think of anything clever about Clinton. C'mon Jibjab, step up to the plate!