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paladin
03-17-2008, 11:28 AM
Just heard a story from a business man in Greensboro.....seems they were expecting Obama to visit Greensboro while campaigning.....now Obama says it's not safe for a black man in Greensboro so now he won't visit.....because back in the late 70's they shot a couple of people there....True..or not true....I don't know...source sez he may vote for Billary.....

S.V. Airlie
03-17-2008, 11:31 AM
Heck I won't visit Greensboro either and I'm a WASP!

Bruce Hooke
03-17-2008, 11:34 AM
Just heard a story from a business man in Greensboro.....seems they were expecting Obama to visit Greensboro while campaigning.....now Obama says it's not safe for a black man in Greensboro so now he won't visit.....because back in the late 70's they shot a couple of people there....True..or not true....I don't know...source sez he may vote for Billary.....

This story smells pretty fishy to me. At the least I'd say some key details are being left out in order to give it an anti-Obama spin. The idea that he would not visit there just because of two murders in the 70's seems highly unlikely.

So, what are we supposed to learn from a totally unsubstantiated rumor that smells fishy and looks like it has been given an anti-Obama spin?

Keith Wilson
03-17-2008, 11:41 AM
True..or not true....I don't know...10:1 odds it's BS. There's a spectacular amount of it being flung toward Obama lately. If I were you, I'd check before spreading rumors further.

paladin
03-17-2008, 12:32 PM
Well, Kieth, it obviously wasn't BS, but I posed a legitimate question because I had heard nothing to dispel or prove the allegation, for whatever reason. I was asking if anyone else had heard any such rumor. And though it's no one's business but mine, I would vote for the guy over the other two possible candidates.

elf
03-17-2008, 12:39 PM
Clearly, concerns for his life are alive and well. I was just listening to a podcast of Talk of the Nation last night from Baltimore back when the MD primary was gearing up. There were 60's blacks on the panel who were around when MLK was shot and they were completely serious in their expression of fears for Mr. Obama's physical safety.

The interesting part was the response from the younger black people on the panel who expressed the opinion that they were not fearful. As they said, "times are different now."

And then there was a minor uproar over the fact that one of Obama's Texas stops didn't have enough metal detectors at the entrances.

So don't discount this fear for his safety. Try to imagine what it must be like to be black now.

Noah
03-17-2008, 12:40 PM
Well Bush hasn't visited Vermont in his 8 years in office - it's the only state he never visited. Perhaps over security concerns as well...

Chuck, you are a smart guy, stop spreading crap.

Bruce Hooke
03-17-2008, 01:09 PM
Well, Kieth, it obviously wasn't BS, but I posed a legitimate question because I had heard nothing to dispel or prove the allegation, for whatever reason. I was asking if anyone else had heard any such rumor. And though it's no one's business but mine, I would vote for the guy over the other two possible candidates.

Might I suggest that if you wanted to know if anyone else had heard this rumor that you include that question in your initial post, rather than just posting a statement...

Bruce Hooke
03-17-2008, 01:13 PM
Assistant Police Chief D.K. Crotts said through a police spokesperson that he could not discuss the nature of the security concerns and referred questions to the Charlotte office of the Secret Service.

Sounds to me like maybe it was the Secret Service that nixed the event or at least raised the security concerns, not the campaign.

We should keep in mind that these sorts of security concerns could nix an appearance by any candidate, not just Obama, and may well have nothing to do with his race. Realistically, all of the major candidates are potential targets. That's why I'm fairly certain that they all have secret service protection at this point. Let's not see this as something specific to Obama's race unless there is clear evidence to substantiate that view.

Keith Wilson
03-17-2008, 01:24 PM
Well, Keith, it obviously wasn't BSQuite right. Sorry, I'm getting a little twitchy about rumors lately. It appears it was half true; he canceled an appearance, but the reason is unknown. I'd bet the Secret Service uncovered something, but who knows?

paladin
03-17-2008, 01:29 PM
Awright guys...I dunno sit around here with a radio or tv on all day....I am writing or drawing......I was on the phone for business reasons.....
Now....evreyone get together.....I'm tired of getting beat on...I post a cartoon of McCain and folks are over me for denigrating a war hero...I post a cartoon about Hillary and you would thing I just propositioned the Queen mother.....I comment on Obama and I get hammered......and most everyone switches candidates like I change my socks.....how about making up you're freakin' minds......

Keith Wilson
03-17-2008, 01:41 PM
Did the Queen Mother take you up on your offer? ;)

paladin
03-17-2008, 01:59 PM
Norman...What are my political sentiments....? I like McCain for who he is...I don't like his party politics......I absolutely don't like Hillary and wouldn't vote for her under any circumstances......I would vote for Obama.....but comments like you just made would turn me away...You or no one else can't even pretend to know my politics...because 99.9% of you would be wrong....I don't vote a party line, and never have. Because I make a remark or comment does not mean that I'm for or against a person or their politics. and I'll post a cartoon for someone that I would vote for or against.....I'm not particular...
and...the title of this thread stands...it was a correct statement, for whatever reason and those that called me for it were wrong.....he won't visit Greensboro...perhaps it's not for his reason, but it's a true statement and not a slam at Obama....

Hot Air
03-17-2008, 04:08 PM
Norman, I would like an attribution for that. I've googled "cinderella," "cotton balls," and nothing turns up. I think you are starting a scurrilous rumor as we all know how you feel about Cinderella.

Bruce Hooke
03-17-2008, 04:36 PM
Awright guys...I dunno sit around here with a radio or tv on all day....I am writing or drawing......I was on the phone for business reasons.....
Now....evreyone get together.....I'm tired of getting beat on...I post a cartoon of McCain and folks are over me for denigrating a war hero...I post a cartoon about Hillary and you would thing I just propositioned the Queen mother.....I comment on Obama and I get hammered......and most everyone switches candidates like I change my socks.....how about making up you're freakin' minds......

As I said before, if you actually had question about whether this is true, then you should have said so. Lacking that, it is hard not to read the original post like you are trying to spread negative rumors about Obama.

It should not be any big surprise that if you post what would reasonably be read as negative information about any of the candidates someone is going to speak up to defend that candidate.

Bruce Hooke
03-17-2008, 04:38 PM
The lack of thoughtful replies is why I rarely visit here these days.:rolleyes:

It seems to me that there were a fair number of pretty thoughtful replies. What may have been lacking was replies that agree with your political perspective.

Keith Wilson
03-17-2008, 04:42 PM
Hey, give the man a break. He said in his first post:
True..or not true....I don't know...One can complain about spreading unconfirmed rumors, but it's not necessarily negative; there may have actually been a threat and the Secret Service thought the original location wasn't safe enough. There's been enough speculation about an attempt to assassinate Obama (resemblance to Kennedy, first serious black candidate, all that) that I expect the Secret Service guys (abbreviating it SS doesn't look right somehow) are being very careful.

paladin
03-17-2008, 04:45 PM
I think I'll work on the new boat idea a while....I never did like politics....unfortunately I had to put up with a lot of it where I worked...I went to one Georgetown party 'cause my boss sed it would be good to mix with the weenies that paid my pittance....couldn't stand the cigar/cigarette smoke, booze and bull $hit......as far as I'm concerned they're all liars once they become politicians...

Memphis Mike
03-17-2008, 05:32 PM
"I don't have a dog in this fight. I don't feel I could vote for any of the candidates likely to be on the ballot. Like most of the elections in my adult years, I'll have to try to pick the least worst of the offerings in November.":mad:

What's wrong? McCain not far enough to the right for ya?

And I know you won't vote for Hillary or Obama. They might try to take away your musket.

Bruce Hooke
03-17-2008, 05:39 PM
Sorry if I jumped on this (and on Chuck) too hard. I am under a lot of stress and on a hair trigger. There are still some things I would debate in the original post, but they are not important enough to merit the response I made.

In the end I think Ironmule has it about right when he spoke of "the weaknesses of mankind that lead to sending and passing on of emails of the type Chuck Phillips received."

elf
03-17-2008, 05:51 PM
Realistically, all of the major candidates are potential targets. That's why I'm fairly certain that they all have secret service protection at this point.

I believe it was just last week that Michelle Obama finally got her Secret Service escort. Up to that time it had only been her husband and Bill and Hillary and McCain. I'm sure, were McCain's wife to begin to independently campaign for her spouse, she would be protected as well.

Although, quite honestly, I don't see how Secret Service protection can stop a high powered rifle. And those of us beyond a certain age know, in fact, that they can't.