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August West
08-27-2005, 10:42 PM
This guy really wants to move "Rowdy"
I have never seen her listed for les then the
$900,000.00+ range
No glassing here Shes a real beauty
Shes docked down the street from me
and she is Bristol but he hasn't had much luck selling her, maybe most don't have that kind of coin. just look at her though.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1916-Herreshoff-New-York-40-59-LOD_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ63731QQitemZ4570626 223QQrdZ 1QQsspagenameZWDVW

chergui
08-27-2005, 11:58 PM
I've seen it advertised in WB. 25,000 hour restoration.. wow. I can't imagine. It's a work of art if you ask me smile.gif . Let's see, that works out to ~ $36/hr. Ebay gets a nice commision on that one.

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rbgarr
08-28-2005, 08:46 AM
Double posted in error-(see below)

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rbgarr
08-28-2005, 08:48 AM
She's been on eBay for perhaps a year.

There's another NY 40 for sale here in Maine. She's schooner rigged with a ferrocement or ferrocement covered hull (if that's even a possibility). I'm kind of surprised they still call her a NY 40. :confused:

Norske3
08-28-2005, 09:25 AM
And then there's a NY 50!...I saw Friday on the lawn of Herreshoff Museum...on loan....till now...someone has bought it...built in 1913...but looks like a much later design...of the thirties...this week end is the museums BIGGEST regatta...took a pic will post in a few days...then went on to the WB Newport show....great day.

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Norumbega Boatworks
08-28-2005, 02:39 PM
Rowdy is listed by Cannell, Page and Paine in Camden, ME for $825K- for those with that kind of change lying about- My question is: beyond a certain point can you really get that much more pleasure out of a boat that valuable?- I suspect that perhaps it's the opposite- an inverse relationship. I'll stay in the lower 5 digits thank you.

rbgarr
08-28-2005, 03:03 PM
I was once paddling around the harbor in a Walden 'plastic milk bottle recycled' kayak when I realized there was a bit of water in the bilge. I turned around to look at the on-deck drain plug and realized it was missing. I paddled up to a guy on his 50-60 foot modern ocean voyaging cutter (a Sundeer) and asked him if he had a spare wine bottle cork lying around. He did and stepped down the sugar scoop transom to put it in the drain hole for me. A very nice guy.

After a few minutes conversation he said somewhat wistfully that he imagined I probably got as much pleasure afloat from a simple kayak as he did from his six figure yacht. I didn't quite know what to say. :cool:

JeffH
08-28-2005, 08:32 PM
The schooner rigged NY40 (the name escapes me at the moment) is ferrocement. The original hull was too far gone so they used it as a plug. Calling it a NY40 reminds me of another schooner that burned to the ground just as its restoration was nearing completion. The owner decided that he liked the looks of the design, but there were some problems and anyway in the end he didn't really want a wooden boat. So, he had the design tweaked to make the hull fuller to allow for a twin engine installation, new rig, somewhat different cabin layout, and had it built of steel. The only thing left of the original are a few bits of trim from the aft cabin that were salvaged from the fire and were installed in the new. I've seen her listed in a book of classic boats, after "restoration", as "built in 1926". Go figure.

Jeff

Dan McCosh
08-29-2005, 06:19 AM
Rowdy was a local boat for years, ended up on the East Coast and underwent a full-blown, museum-class restoration. The sale is interesting given a relatively large number of similar projects in recent years that have supported several yards and the burgeoning classic racing scene. Selling one of these projects at something close to the restoration cost would be a boon to the whole classic restoration scene. On the other hand, losing 80% or so of the purchase price of a similar size modern race boat is commonplace. One 45-footer around here built for $900,000 was resold, after 10 years or so of racing, for about $40,000.

August West
08-30-2005, 10:12 AM
I guess it's all relative to ones circumstance
It is unfortunate that a Herreshoff million dollar classic is not,apparently a lucrative investment these days. I am thinking that the motivations that propel one to even consider purchasing a vessel such as Rowdy have Nothing to do with money. I imagine it has more to do with the feelings that pass through you when you are captain of a vessel such as this, I imagine it has more to do with boyhood dreams and visions of yesterday and nothing to do with thoughts of dollars.
I find is sad that ,in a day when we are surrounded by technology and plastic that an object of history ,vision and soul such as Rowdy cannont bring even what the gentleman originally expended on this beauty. She will require continued love and devotion as they all do, but this boat belongs in a museum and this poor guy can't even move her at a loss.
If she were a plastic condo overlooking the marina there would be a line of fools looking to buy.
Personally , having limited resources and in the name of common sense- which I know Herreshoff appreciated- I think perhaps one could get a Bristol Herreshoff Beauty for less then $100,000.
And then go sailing with that other $800,000.00
But just a thought. As for those with the means to do so, when a million bucks is just drop in the bucket, Childhood dreams sound good to me.

"Your know you're old when your Dreams Have turned to Regrets.

Cheers all