View Full Version : Bush proposes tight domestic '09 budget. Most domestic programs would be frozen
Spin_Drift
02-01-2008, 01:12 AM
Most domestic programs would be frozen; savings sought in health care...
President Bush’s 2009 budget will virtually freeze most domestic programs and seek nearly $200 billion in savings from federal health care programs, a senior administration official said Thursday.
The Bush budget also will likely exceed $3 trillion, this official said.
Bush on Monday will present his proposed budget for the new fiscal year to Congress, where it’s unlikely to gain much traction in the midst of a presidential campaign. The president has promised a plan that would erase the budget deficit by 2012 if his policies are followed.
more; http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22936763/
Greg P H
02-01-2008, 02:11 AM
The man really lacks any sense of compassion (at least on this plane of existence) .... But he has his purpose here, though I doubt he is consciously aware of what it is. This too shall pass.
Another complete waste of carbon.
Spin_Drift
02-01-2008, 02:34 AM
Another complete waste of carbon.
Carbon??? :confused:
You wouldn't mean a complete waste of oxygen and space? :eek: :)
Tylerdurden
02-01-2008, 06:09 AM
In my Job I get to talk to normal people all over the state.
What I hear is not what the media is selling.
The writers strike is good for us because more and more are being weaned of the propaganda teat and seeing what is real.
One local Market and Restaurant's has give away DVDs of all the latest titles. He was saying America Freedom to Fascism is the most popular. I donated a 100 blank DVD's for the cause.
I was told by the boys the other day that gas station phone booths and counters at several places are the same way. I questioned whether that was the case and they rolled in an hour later with three and a pocket constitution.
Just like the 1770's a black market in publishing has risen.
I think the elite in this country are in for a surprise but the key is timing. People have to act before they are starved out.
Food shortages are very close on the horizon. Won't be long now.
George Roberts
02-01-2008, 08:18 AM
"The president has promised a plan that would erase the budget deficit by 2012 if his policies are followed."
A bit of hubris. Perhaps had he started the plan 4 years ago ...
Tylerdurden
02-01-2008, 08:21 AM
How does one balance bankruptcy and a dollar worth 10 cents to the euro?
The man really lacks any sense of compassion (at least on this plane of existence) .... But he has his purpose here, though I doubt he is consciously aware of what it is. This too shall pass.
http://www.boston.com/yourlife/health/diseases/articles/2007/05/31/with_aids_funding_proposal_bush_looks_to_his_legac y/
A highlight :
Tom Hart, director of government relations for DATA, the Africa advocacy organization founded by rock singer Bono , predicted that by the time Bush leaves office in early 2009 his administration will have increased aid to Africa by at least six times over that of the Clinton administration. Hart said that Bush also will probably surpass his pledge, made at the G8 summit in Gleneagles in 2005, to double US assistance to Africa by 2010. At the time, US aid to Africa amounted to $4.1 billion.
The man really lacks any sense of compassion (at least on this plane of existence) .... But he has his purpose here, though I doubt he is consciously aware of what it is. This too shall pass.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2004/01/20040107-1.html
a highlight:
Benefits to America of the Temporary Worker Program:
...
A more compassionate system -- to protect all workers in America with labor laws, the right to change jobs, fair wages, and a healthy work environment.
As much as I criticize the requirement for abstinence disinformation in the foreign AIDS programs the program itself was a substantial increase in aid.
Tylerdurden
02-01-2008, 09:30 AM
As much as I criticize the requirement for abstinence disinformation in the foreign AIDS programs the program itself was a substantial increase in aid.
Yeah, though when you figure out what the dollar is worth now it really isn't.
Lets help the people in third world countries before we kill them.
Chris Coose
02-01-2008, 09:31 AM
The only people who will follow any dubbya suggestions appear to be the republican candidates for the presidency.
They must be dumber than the dubbya.
Greg P H
02-01-2008, 11:12 AM
peb
Compassion has no strings
it is amoral
it has no requirements, expectations
or party affiliation
it does not come from the head
the emotions, or the pocket
it comes from the heart
peb
Compassion has no strings
it is amoral
it has no requirements, expectations
or party affiliation
it does not come from the head
the emotions, or the pocket
it comes from the heart
Complete, BS. Acting on compassion almost always has strings or expectations attached to it. These expectations may not be met, but they are always there.
If a beggar said "give me money for a bottle of whiskey", no one would give him anything. If he said "give me money so I can feed my kid", many would.
High C
02-01-2008, 01:05 PM
There are individuals whose domestic budgets are frozen for next year, and were for this year, and last year.
Onward and upward for government, though!
D.O.Sag
02-01-2008, 01:38 PM
dead on arrival
Greg P H
02-01-2008, 02:19 PM
Complete, BS. Acting on compassion almost always has strings or expectations attached to it. These expectations may not be met, but they are always there.
If a beggar said "give me money for a bottle of whiskey", no one would give him anything. If he said "give me money so I can feed my kid", many would.
No, if it has strings then it is ego speaking, because It is filling the needs of the giver.
PeterSibley
02-01-2008, 03:13 PM
Complete, BS. Acting on compassion almost always has strings or expectations attached to it. These expectations may not be met, but they are always there.
If a beggar said "give me money for a bottle of whiskey", no one would give him anything. If he said "give me money so I can feed my kid", many would.
A beggar recently asked me for money for a beer .I gave him $2 .I respect honesty .:D
No BS about his kids .
No, if it has strings then it is ego speaking, because It is filling the needs of the giver.
You said strings OR expectations. Almost all charitable acts are based on a level of expectations. If I was to make a donation to Mother Teresa's Missionaries of Charity, I would expect the money to be spent on the poor. If I give money to a local school, I would expect the money to go towards education at that school. Nothing egotistical about this.
You logic is so absurd it is almost laughable.
George Roberts
02-01-2008, 06:00 PM
Greg P H ---
All people who donate significant amounts have strings that reflect their expectations.
It has nothing to do with ego or need filling. It has to do with making sure both sides understand what is going to be done with the money.
Greg P H
02-01-2008, 06:40 PM
no logic intended.
Compassion is in the intention, it may include charity or it may not. Sometimes compassion involves doing nothing other than bearing witness. But whatever it is, you have to act and release the outcome, otherwise it is bound to ego. If you want to hold expectation, then make it the expectation that it serves the greatest good.
Knowing your own intention, and knowing where it is sourced from will tell you.
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