1933 Crocker candidate

[TimothyB]

Here is another candidate:

http://www.smartywebs.com/crockerweb/

I've been told she needs no structural work (frames, deadwood, keel, etc) but that she needs a lot of TLC, finish work and planking. The pics seem to bear that out.

Hmm.....

[Victor]

Lotta work, but looks like she's worth it.

[DanO]

Timothy,

I like the anchor in picture C11. I found one just like that while snorkeling about 500' away from our dock. It was a little exciting swimming that up from 15' of water while holding my breath. Since it was in fresh water (God knows for how long) it cleaned up pretty well and looks great hanging by the mantle in our cottage.

By the way, I'd say go for the Crocker.

Dan

[alienzdive]

Good luck, hope you know what you are in for? LOL

[TimothyB]

Well, I would definitely be in for less than the previous candidate.. this one has no holes in the deck. smile.gif

[StevenBauer]

TimothyB, what did you think of the van Dam boat? There's been some interest since I passed on her but she's a nice boat and may still be available.

Steven

[OEX]

Thanks Steven for still keeping at that boat, seems very worth it.

Timothy is the crocker free. you might like this boat, she is in much better shape than the crocker.

http://www.woodenboatrescue.org/image.php?Id=450 http://www.woodenboatrescue.org/image.php?Id=485

http://www.woodenboatrescue.org/image.php?Id=448

more on her listing cutter (http://www.woodenboatrescue.org/admin/admin.php?edit=120) and I have about 20 more pix here.

[ 11-06-2005, 11:22 PM: Message edited by: OEX ]

[Rick Tyler]

Dude, you need to start collecting Washington listings.

[Dave Gray]

Dude, you need to start collecting Washington listings. My thoughts exactly (Oregon would be nice too). Or maybe I am living on the wrong coast?

[OEX]

got to tell you I have asked over 40 people to help me do what I do here, out there!!!! Its easy, and a blast! Can anyone of you be a WBRF rep for the NW? Just start calling Marinas and Yards and once a month drive around and take pix and do basic surveys. Then post the listings if you have the contact info and they want to GIVE the boat away.

Here is a great example---Wild Duck. This boat is in very good shape, years less work than the Gaff Cutter Katarina that I am restoring. The recent work done was very well done by a skilled craftsman, free.......I think WA and OR people would jump on this Wild Duck---big enough for a group, but still single handed-able, seaworthy, and fast lines---classic Itchen Ferry design---compare this hull with a Lyle Hess and I think you will see a lot more similarities than differences. Man, 33 foot boat with a 31 1/2 foot waterline---what a cruiser, and very fast in light air, long flat run, Bermuda rig with deep keel to go to windward………..blah blah. Of course to ship it out there would cost $8000, but I think its very much worth that and more. I would even throw in a few bronze winches and a set of sails from a 44 foot Crocker and an old Shipmate (needs work) stove---if I had to!

Out here, if I said it might be a Herreshoff, this boat would have been gone weeks ago. All praise the Herreshoffs, but I would take Wild Duck over most Herreshoffs if I wanted to be out when it gets snotty or in a thick of fog, and if I am not interested in name recognition or racing.

Help!!!

Cheers

[TimothyB]

The Wild Duck is indeed a beauty, but unless the Crocker actually HAS structural defects of any major sort, apart from fixing a couple of planks and etc, I don't see how she is -more- work...

I mean sure, it would take quite awhile to get her yacht quality, but if I just cleaned her up and fixed her so she is sailable and habitable, I could do the finishing work over time. I have various camping equipment that would make it easier as well.

[OEX]

It’s just that I have seen a lot of boat in this condition and I think your always in store for more than it seems. Wild Duck is open and clear to see what is what. The deck for instance is brand new, not so on the Crocker---but I am not saying its a better choice unless it is not FREE smile.gif That does make a difference.

For instance my boat (the 34 cutter) looked ready to sail an in much better shape than either boat we are talking about. But all new frames, new sternpost, new keel bolts, new deck covered, new floor timbers, etc---not clear from day one.

Cheers

[TimothyB]

Yep Bruce. Don't think I will take her (or any cheap/free boat) if I don't have a thorough inspection and she turns out well. If not, then its back to the drawing board.

It's almost harder to choose a project boat than a complete boat since you are not only looking for the 'right' boat, you are balancing money versus value and time, etc etc.

[OEX]

with a new boat it's money, with an old in it's time---toss up, but you can learn a whole lot from an old boat. This is coming from a guy itching to have Gloucester Sloop Boat built someday smile.gif

Is that crocker free? If so lets get it up on the WBRF site.

cheers