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rbgarr
11-01-2007, 09:09 AM
she said this was a common pressure that some gave in to to preserve their jobs:



Increased cheating reported on MCAS

Cases of impropriety are seen for both students, teachers

By Tracy Jan, Globe Staff | November 1, 2007
The number of Massachusetts students cheating on the MCAS more than doubled this year, compared to 2006, and the number of teachers accused of improperly helping students with the exam continued to increase, according to new state data.
The Department of Education documented a total of 63 incidents, including 43 cases involving students who shared answers or brought crib sheets into the testing room and 20 involving educators, according to a report given to the Globe yesterday.
Last year, the state reported a total of 34 improprieties, including 15 educators, a marked increase in the number of teachers caught giving inappropriate assistance on the battery of math, English, and science tests on which schools are judged each year. Only three educators were caught cheating in 2005.
In 2006, 19 students were caught cheating; 31 students were caught in 2005.
Despite the increase, state Department of Education and teachers union officials say the number of cheating incidents remains minuscule considering that more than 1.2 million tests are given each year.
"Sixty three does not strike me as an alarming finding," said Paul Reville, chairman of the state Board of Education. "Obviously there is concern every time there is cheating going on, but I don't see reason for inordinate concern in light of the hundreds of thousands of possible ways people could cheat."
A Stoughton High student memorized a SparkNotes plot summary of Jane Eyre for the composition portion of the English MCAS. In response to an open-ended writing question, a Barnstable High student copied the text from a poster left hanging on the classroom wall. A New Bedford elementary school teacher briefed students on the subjects of the reading passages they would encounter on the reading MCAS. Other teachers provided dictionaries or other forbidden tools, or made mistakes in administering the exam, such as forgetting to remove helpful material from a visible place in the classroom.
Jeffrey Nellhaus, the state's acting commissioner of education, said the state trains teachers each year on how to properly administer the tests. The rise in cheating incidents, he said, could have simply resulted from more rigorous reporting from schools.
Others, including teachers union leaders, say the increase may have stemmed from the fact that more of the high-stakes tests are now being administered.
The Massachusetts Comprehensive Assessment System tests are given every year in grades 3 to 8, as well as in high school. Students must pass the 10th-grade math and English exams to graduate, and starting with the class of 2010, they must also pass one of four science exams. While much of the cheating occurred in high schools, students as young as third grade were caught copying answers from one another.
The Globe obtained the data this week as Nellhaus released a report to the Board of Education on the skyrocketing number of investigations into teacher misconduct, which ranged from cheating on tests to criminal convictions and inappropriate relationships with students. The state investigated 143 serious educator misconduct cases in the 2006-07 school year, up 43 percent from the previous year.
Since 2003, when the state first required school systems to report educator misconduct resulting in dismissals or resignations, the number of incidents requiring investigation has increased at least five-fold; between 2000 and 2003, there were only 17 such cases, according to the education commissioner's report to the board.
Of the 63 educators who were disciplined or dismissed between 2001 and 2005, 12 had inappropriate or sexual relationships with students, nine had been convicted or accused of assault or rape, and six viewed pornography during school hours or on school computers, according to a database the state compiled for an Associated Press report.
"Someone engaging in conduct like that doesn't belong in the classroom," said Thomas Gosnell, president of the American Federation of Teachers Massachusetts, a teachers union representing many of the state's urban school systems. "Even one proven case is too many."
The database also listed six educators convicted of possessing or selling drugs, and five disciplined for cheating, including improprieties on the MCAS and the state's teacher licensing exam. The state has grown so concerned over prospective teachers cheating on the Massachusetts Tests for Educator Licensure that it now requires test-takers to submit their thumbprints to verify their identities if questions arise.
The state Education Department has two staff members charged with investigating allegations of teacher misconduct and determining whether teachers' licenses should be revoked or suspended after schools report teachers' arrests and other ethical breaches, Nellhaus said.
"This is serious," Nellhaus said. "We want to make sure that our students are safe in school and that the adults they encounter are treating them appropriately. We take action when we learn about it."

TMny
11-05-2007, 10:53 PM
There was a similar report from the NY/NJ area within previous 5 years.
>as young as third grade were caught copying answers
? means 'head start' ?

Undoubtedly will be cited as reason to discontinue emphasis on broad testing .... Reality is not the problem.

The fact that teachers were pressed to be involved in cheating is the pits {desperate students need someone to guide them FORWARD}.

rbgarr
11-06-2007, 05:08 AM
This is my vague and uninformed understanding of the main pressure schools are under:

The current testing regime and emphasis doesn't take into account normal statistical variation in small group sizes (testing at the classroom level) and thus the demand for consistent and continually improving scores is an impossible standard to meet without changes in the student environment outside school. The standards can be met consistently by those schools that already exceeded the standards when established.

Anyone an expert on this? I hope the above is wrong!

RichKrough
11-06-2007, 07:14 AM
My wife's favorite story about teaching is when she taught in a poor inner city school. Her classroom budget for supplies was $60 for the year with 34 children. Nearly all of the children were on public assistance. My wife would spend about $1000 a year out of her pocket for field trips and projects.

When she got a job in a suburban district ( same county, schools 3 miles apart) Her salary went up $8000 a year. Her classroom budget went to $300 for 22 children. Her first semester at the suburban district she sent a note home with her students asking for some items for classroom science projects. By the end of the week she had 22 of everything, $375 in cash and the offer of help from 3 GE scientists, 2 nuclear engineers and 2 college professors.

UpScope
11-06-2007, 09:09 AM
My wife's favorite story about teaching is when she taught in a poor inner city school. Her classroom budget for supplies was $60 for the year with 34 children. Nearly all of the children were on public assistance. My wife would spend about $1000 a year out of her pocket for field trips and projects.

When she got a job in a suburban district ( same county, schools 3 miles apart) Her salary went up $8000 a year. Her classroom budget went to $300 for 22 children. Her first semester at the suburban district she sent a note home with her students asking for some items for classroom science projects. By the end of the week she had 22 of everything, $375 in cash and the offer of help from 3 GE scientists, 2 nuclear engineers and 2 college professors.

So true, have another story just like it-minus the nuclear engineers. Allendale is a college town and I am shocked at the support the teachers receive here vs other towns.

What the sad but so very real problems with teacher "performance" being linked to the test results is the removal of the poorer performing students. If the child isn't performing above or on the test curve the teachers have incentive to remove them. Get'em to the Tech center or where ever, just out of the classroom and off the test curve.

I'm not an expert, just a Dad with two kids. Just experience with kids in the schools. One was a wiz kid and the other happy with D+'s and D-'s. The school treated them verrrry differently.

Personally, I think measuring teacher performance to a once a year test has been a big disservice to the profession. Let 'em teach.

George Roberts
11-06-2007, 09:14 AM
"One was a wiz kid and the other happy with D+'s and D-'s. The school treated them verrrry differently."

As the schools should have.

keelbolts
11-06-2007, 09:45 AM
I am still a teacher and I can't tell you how aggravating it is when the school system gives you cherries and then demands you make an apple pie out of them.

Only an idiot believes that you can threaten one person enough to alter a stranger's behavior.

If I was capable of pulling off the educational/social miracles, on a yearly basis, that I'm expected to pull off, would I be working for a teacher's salary? Hell no, I'd be on my book tour.

George Roberts
11-06-2007, 11:01 AM
"If I was capable of pulling off the educational/social miracles, on a yearly basis, that I'm expected to pull off, would I be working for a teacher's salary? Hell no, I'd be on my book tour."

Not to insult you but ...

In all professions there are very few people who are good at doing their jobs. Teachers are no exception. We should not expect teachers to be that magical profession where: Most are good. They just need to be allowed to do their job.

rbgarr
11-06-2007, 12:35 PM
What the sad but so very real problems with teacher "performance" being linked to the test results is the removal of the poorer performing students. If the child isn't performing above or on the test curve the teachers have incentive to remove them. Get'em to the Tech center or where ever, just out of the classroom and off the test curve.

A good college preparatory school I know pressures students in AP classes who do not look like they are going to get 4s or 5s on the exams to forgo the tests because lower scores "pull the school average down"; it doesn't look good to prospective parents.

Thus, it's not just an "unintended consequence" of a public/government mandate.

keelbolts
11-06-2007, 01:12 PM
This is my 3rd or 4th career path and there's no doubt that, just like all the other jobs I've had, teachers are a mixed bag. All I'm saying is that, if I could do what's expected of me at times, I'd be an alchemist not a teacher. Do you think I'd be making apple pies out of cherries? Heck no, I'd be making gold out of lead.

RichKrough
11-06-2007, 02:19 PM
A good college preparatory school I know pressures students in AP classes who do not look like they are going to get 4s or 5s on the exams to forgo the tests because lower scores "pull the school average down"; it doesn't look good to prospective parents.

Thus, it's not just an "unintended consequence" of a public/government mandate.

They do the same thing here in the public schools. Local real estate prices are highly influenced by school test performance and since property taxes fund the schools on the local level there is tremendous incentive for the school districts to have high test scores and high college acceptance rates .

Until "No Child Left Behind " came along many of the schools around here would dump their under performing students into alternative schools (called BOCES here in NY) along with the thugs and emotionally disturbed children. Since BOCES is part of the NY State Education dept their test numbers didn't show up on local schools test scores. That has all changed to a large degree, now everyone's test scores count ( Bush got this one almost right)

My wife's teaching position until this year has been as a consulting teacher, She would tutor under-performing students and in some cases teachers and bring them up to acceptable performance levels. Now she is mentoring new teachers coming into the districts.

Gonzalo
11-06-2007, 02:54 PM
Just last night a student told me that she, as an under-performing student, had been involuntarily sent to the school nurse on the day of the End of Grade test. The EoG is the high-stakes test that NC schools use to judge schools and teachers. She said that it was common in her school for teachers to encourage students who were expected to do poorly on the test to stay home sick or to be "reminded" of how bad they felt and sent to the nurse. There were make-up tests later for those who missed it, but their scores were left out of the statistical evaluation.

It's just one anecdotal data point. But, if true, it points to the problem with making the tests count for too much. Bush, the MBA president, says what is measured gets addressed. True enough, but if you don't set your incentives right, you'll get behavior you don't expect or want.

rbgarr
11-06-2007, 03:51 PM
MBA schools don't teach that the average Joe sees through every MBAs' act and will game efforts to be manipulated by them until the cows come home... and p*** themselves laughing while they do it. Child's play.

The Bigfella
11-06-2007, 06:12 PM
MBA schools don't teach that the average Joe sees through every MBAs' act and will game efforts to be manipulated by them until the cows come home... and p*** themselves laughing while they do it. Child's play.


You assume too much beegarr. Mine did.

Our year coordinator was a behavioural psychologist and was fascinated by the games you describe. He used to go out on beer delivery trucks, get onto the shop floor in abbatoirs, etc - and pretty much had that worked out. Figuring out the (childish) games got easy after three years with him. Oh yeah - execs play them too.

rbgarr
11-06-2007, 07:55 PM
'Mine did'. What does that mean?

What's a 'year coordinator'?

(If a behavioral psychologist couldn't decipher games he wouldn't be much of a psychologist so I'm not clear what the point is.)

The overall point however, is to not play manipulative games in the first place. If execs and the average Joe both do it, you don't get where you want to go very effectively.

The Bigfella
11-06-2007, 09:17 PM
'Mine did'. What does that mean?


It means that in relation to your comment:



MBA schools don't teach that the average Joe sees through every MBAs' act and will game efforts to be manipulated by them until the cows come home... and p*** themselves laughing while they do it. Child's play.


... that my MBA school DID teach that. They taught that to get results you had to cover off not just issues in relation to strategy and finance - you had to win at the people game. Probably 50% of what we did for 3 years related to that - how to manage change, build effective teams, negotiate with unions, etc.

Our results, in large part, were also based on what our syndicate teams achieved. In the 20 years since we graduated - those results have flowed through via the corporate results achieved by most of the class.


What's a 'year coordinator'?

The MBA staffer who plays "mother hen" to a year's students.

rbgarr
11-06-2007, 09:28 PM
[quote=The Bigfella;1688819] They taught that to get results you had to cover off not just issues in relation to strategy and finance - you had to win at the people game. Probably 50% of what we did for 3 years related to that - how to manage change, build effective teams, negotiate with unions, etc./quote]

Sounds to me like we agree, but AFAIK it isn't what's going on in the US school "No Child" programs.

The Bigfella
11-06-2007, 09:33 PM
Yep - we agree - just taking issue with the lumping in of all MBA schools. I quite like (still) they way mine taught. I did mine at the University of Auckland btw