Anyone know 'Drift'?

[StevenBauer]

When Mary and I got back to the mooring this evening we saw a gorgeous boat anchored in the mooring field. Her name is Drift, here are a couple of pics:

http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r241/bauerdad/IMG_1553.jpg

http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r241/bauerdad/IMG_1551.jpg

http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r241/bauerdad/IMG_1559.jpg

http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r241/bauerdad/IMG_1556.jpg

Steven

[dreyer]

wow... truly beautiful

[elf]

http://www.erregatta.com/ERR2007ScratchClass2.pdf

She was there this year. Info about her on this scratch sheet.

[Bill R]

oooooooohhhhhhhh

She's purty.

[StevenBauer]

So she's a 31.3' Robert Henry design, built by Dedood in 1963. An International 500 Yawl. If she's still around tomorrow I'd love to take a closer look. I'm not familiar with Robert Henry or Dedood or International 500s.

Steven

[Hwyl]

http://www.woodenboatvb.com/vbulletin/upload/showthread.php?t=13837

http://www.woodship.com/fleet/maryscott/maryscott.html

I miss "Willin' "
http://www.woodenboatvb.com/vbulletin/upload/showthread.php?t=43980

[StevenBauer]

Thanks, Gareth. I hope she's still around tomorrow afternoon.



Steven

[Hwyl]

Somewhere in the back of my mind, I seem t remember that Willin' (Mark)'s boat was an international 500.

I've been looking at old threads, but can't find a reference.

You may well recognise the owner.

[Hwyl]

Research concluded, yes it's Marks boat.

http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b5db00b3127cce91e91958f7c100000016108Acs2TFy3atn


my 1963 31' x 9' International 500 Yawl off the board of Robert Henry, Jr, built in Bremen, Germany by Johann Dedood and Sons of mahogany on oak, which I was lucky enough to find in 2005.

[StevenBauer]

Wow, good catch! Now I know where her home mooring is. :) Perhaps a roadtrip to Phippsburg is in order.

Steven

[Tom3]

The last owner bought DRIFT from Dan Fogelburg, the singer songwriter. She was kept on North Haven Island in Penobscot Bay. Fairly well dried out after a few years out of the water and on the market. She sold somewhere around 20-25 k.

Most pressing problem (owner, a friend of mine) was a leaking deck. A few quotes turned up prices around 20k to build a new deck.

The owner went to the Rockland Apprenticeship and struck up a plan and deal to build new decks. She had some other damage (from deck leaks of course) that required some structural repairs of the deck/cabin area.

This evolved into the changing DRIFTS design from an Interenational 500 to a new design. The owner and Apprenticeshop decided on removing the cabin and starting from scratch with a more "Herrreshoff(the owners words)" looking cabin, ports etc. I believe this new design idea was mostly the owners.

Shortly after, my friend decided to move out of the area and DRIFT went back up for sale. As I recall from the asking price and her long time on sale, she was a great deal (less than half of what was invested in her). She's no longer an International 500 (or maybe she is still considered and Int. 500 ?) but a new one off reinvention.

Incidentally, the last owners father once owned an International 500 when he was growing up in the south (60's). The boat was named DRIFT The broker was telling what a great value the boat would be for someone.

[Willin']

Aw jeez you guys, you're makin' me blush!

Thanks, Gareth, for the heads up on this, I've not been around these parts for a while.

Yep, that's us. Wifey wanted a dinner at The Front Room, I wanted one last sailing weekend for the season. Seemed like a nice compromise.

We kicked off a beautiful 10 day cruise downeast last summer with the ERR, but DNFd, as did about 1/3 of the fleet, due to lack of wind, among about a dozen other things. We did chat with a shipwright from Brooklin Boatyard that had done a lot of the work on her back when Dan owned her. He had quite a bit of knowledge and some interesting stories to tell about the boat from the early 1990s

Tom3 knows more about the boat than I do really, although when I bought her, I did so without a survey or contingencies, such was the evident quality of the work done. I only learned later what a bargain I really got. Apparently Ronnie was a director at Atlantic Challenge, and they gave his boat all the respect and effort she deserved.

It's nice to look at her through someone else's eyes for a change though. When I row up to her, all I see is more projects waiting to be finnessed, LOL.

Steven, sorry we missed you. By the light I'd say you passed by shortly after we'd rowed ashore. Had we stayed around, you would have been welcome aboard anytime. Unfortunately, the front that passed through overnight made for pretty bad sleeping, and we headed up the bay early the next morning to find a more sheltered cove to take a nap in before heading home later Sunday.

The sail home Sunday afternoon was breathtaking! Brisk northerlies blowing offshore over flat water and a sky almost painfully beautiful. October rocks! Anybody that hauled in September, well, you really blew it!

Thanks for the kind words, folks. It makes those weekends with the dust mask and sander a little easier to look back on.

[Tom3]

I think the asking price was at or above 40k when Ronnie put the boat up for sale. He was looking to sell then at a small loss.

I believe all of the deck beams may have been replaced as well whne the new deck was installed. I don't think Ronnie sailed the boat more than a few times after the work.

David Jones who lives in my area remarked to me what a steal the boat was just before you bought her. I wouldn't have surveyed either, when a boat gets to be the clear deal DRIFT was and you know it, you should just buy it.

DRIFT was in Camden, I live in Rockport next door.

[Willin']

I think the asking price was at or above 40k when Ronnie put the boat up for sale. He was looking to sell then at a small loss.

I believe all of the deck beams may have been replaced as well whne the new deck was installed. I don't think Ronnie sailed the boat more than a few times after the work.

David Jones who lives in my area remarked to me what a steal the boat was just before you bought her. I wouldn't have surveyed either, when a boat gets to be the clear deal DRIFT was and you know it, you should just buy it.

DRIFT was in Camden, I live in Rockport next door.

Yup, it was David that clued me that I'd got her for less than what Ronnie had put into the deck and house alone. We dickered a bit, originally, and to his credit, Ronnie didn't walk away at my initial offer (which was all I could really afford), but he was looking for a good steward and I knew I'd never find a boat like this again, and so we found a middle ground...although I lost a bit of sleep over it at the time.

And, if I do say so myself, the new house profile is infinitely more attractive than the original, even if I do have to bow my head to walk around inside now. The original seemed too tall for the sheer, and the large portlights were a liability, imoho. The interior joinery and arrangements are incredible for a boat this size. I've always been a bit of a minimalist (think ownerbuilt H-28), so this boat is almost an embarassment of riches. Smack me if I gush too much.:o

There's precious little info out there about the International 500s. I've found one in the Chicago area, one being rebuilt upstate New York or Canadian Maritimes or thereabouts, and the Robert Henry collection is enshrined in a museum in Maryland. Next to nothing about Dedood and Sohns other than that they were from Holland and set up shop in Bremen Germany.

If you know anything else about them, I'd love to hear it.

Thanks,

Mark

[StevenBauer]

Sorry we missed you Mark. When we met in Portsmouth I said I'd like to see her but now I'd really love to see her. :) What a beauty. Did you notice Talisman in the mooring field? We bought her this spring and David Jones was the broker for Atlantic Challenge. I bought without a survey, too, she was just what we wanted and the price was right, too.

Talisman:

http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r241/bauerdad/Ostkust/IMG_1105.jpg

http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r241/bauerdad/Ostkust/IMG_1417.jpg


Steven

Check your PM's Mark

[ramdiving]

Thank You Steven B. I am starting to restore an Int 500 in Northport, NY. She was built in 1958 in Germany. Does anyone have any history about the ship yard, vessels as a fleet or builder. Since the vessels were designed in VA by Robert Henry why did he chose to build them in Post War Germany? Was it part of the Marshall Plan or was the Marshall plan much earlier in time?

[Willin']

ramdiving,

I'd contacted the Chesapeake Bay Maritime Museum about getting into RH's archives ( http://www.cbmm.org/ed_library.html ) but the cost of doing research there seemed prohibitive at the time. Maybe someday if I'm passing through I'll drop in, though.

This link is the only other web hit I ever got on the boats. I tried to e-mail the owners but got no response. That's all I've been able to dig up, although there was mention in WB several years back of one being professionally restored somewhere upstate NY IIRC. Any chance that was you?

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.woodship.com/fleet/maryscott/maryscott1.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.woodship.com/fleet/maryscott/maryscott.html&usg=__KoJh9wZ84NAwKOP1dPJuilMPacs=&h=477&w=677&sz=33&hl=en&start=2&sig2=hWd-420WoO62RqwIUoscCg&itbs=1&tbnid=XBw6mcfyLLaMwM:&tbnh=98&tbnw=139&prev=/images%3Fq%3D%2522international%2B500%2Byawl%2522% 26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG%26gbv%3D2%26as_st%3Dy%26tbs%3Di sch:1&ei=M97BS_mSI4GClAfRrqTeBA

Please keep us posted if you learn any more.

Mark

http://www.woodship.com/fleet/maryscott/maryscott1.jpg

http://www.woodship.com/fleet/maryscott/maryscott2.jpg


I have some analog pix of my boat from before Dan owned her that show a significant difference in deck layout if you're interested I can scan them and post them here.

[Vince Brennan]

Thet thar's a purty set o' toothpicks and tongue depressors, fer sure!

[Raka025]

Thank You Steven B. I am starting to restore an Int 500 in Northport, NY. She was built in 1958 in Germany. Does anyone have any history about the ship yard, vessels as a fleet or builder. Since the vessels were designed in VA by Robert Henry why did he chose to build them in Post War Germany? Was it part of the Marshall Plan or was the Marshall plan much earlier in time?

Where in Germany? There was a whole bunch of Concordia's built at Abeking and Rasmussen starting in 1950, 99 of them. The price was good.

[Willin']

Toothpicks and tongue depressors...good one! I gotta remember that!

The Dedoods were dutch but set up shop in Bremen, Germany. That's all I know about them. Where are A&R located?

[Raka025]

Lemwerder: Along the banks of the river Weser the shipyard Abeking & Rasmussen was founded in 1907. Over the decades, it has evolved into a state-of-the-art shipbuilding complex, currently consisting of 5 halls of ships of lengths up to 80m, modern office buildings, an inner harbour and a syncrolift. Environmentally friendly workshops housing high performance production facilities for conventional steel, aluminium and non-magnetizable steel. Lemwerder can be reached conveniently by Bremen Airport, railway and the A 1 motorways.

[ramdiving]

Thank You all for the information.
I have family in the Chessy region and I may go down for the schooner race in the fall. I will be sure to see the museum.
Willin, georgeous boat I can hope mine looks as good when I am done restoring her. I am replacing the wood keel and a few frames.
My Int 500 was built in Bremmen Germany. It was in Essex, CT for years. Now she is in my back yard undergoing a restoration.

[Henning 4148]

DeDood is quite a good name in German wooden boat boat building of that time. Keep her well.

[Willin']

Thanks, Henning!

If you ever come across any links or other historical info about them, I'd be in your debt if you sent them along. As she approaches 50 years, I'm thinking it's time to start putting together as much history as I can about Drift, nee Serenade, nee Abraxas.

[ramdiving]

I have been in contact with Mark the owner of Drift. I am jealous I do not have a worm gear or quadrant steering system. Does anyone have a lead on a used set of steering gear. I know Edson still makes them, I am trying to avoid buying new.

[ramdiving]

After meeting with Mark in Maine. Seeing drift gave me many ideas while I restore my Int 500.
He suggested I post some pictures.

[Willin']

And yet...?

[Willin']

Hey Eric, any chance of you posting those photos soon? I'm especially interested in seeing details of how the deadwood and ballast keel came off and went back together.

Merry Christmas!

[dyer]

Hey Eric, any chance of you posting those photos soon? I'm especially interested in seeing details of how the deadwood and ballast keel came off and went back together.

at the behest of Eric, i have uploaded photos of dubious quality and extreme filesize. also, no proper rotation. but they are photographs, and they are digital, and they have been posted (http://forum.woodenboat.com/showthread.php?125253-a-sloop-to-be-named-later.)

r/
dyer