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Lew Barrett
09-30-2007, 11:01 PM
How about a steamboat page? Bill's steam engine thread got me thinking.

I'll kick off with my (sort of dual post) that includes an image and a great link that even provides a page of links!

http://home1.gte.net/evteng/index.htm



http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff76/LewBarrett/compoundsteam-1.jpg.

Who's next?

Lew Barrett
10-01-2007, 09:39 AM
Did I put this in the wrong category? Should it be in Misc. boat stuff?

Thorne
10-01-2007, 10:15 AM
Steamboat Slough is one of my favorite places to fool around in boats -

http://www.hiddenharbormarina.com/rentals/steamboat5big.jpg

Bill R
10-01-2007, 10:31 AM
Thanks Lew!

I am seriously contemplating a Victorian-era-esque steam launch instead of a sailboat for my next build.

Jay Greer
10-01-2007, 01:36 PM
I am involved with three steam boats currently two are Herreshoffs.
Jay

steamer
10-25-2007, 01:00 AM
Hi,

I am new to the forum. I am building a steamboat currently and would appreciate a page...and no us steamys aren't that eccentric...:)

Any other steamers out there....not to highjack.

Dave

Bill R
10-25-2007, 05:49 AM
Steamer- could you post some pics?

ssor
10-25-2007, 05:56 AM
Try this link:http://www.pcez.com/~artemis/NWSSboats-sz.htm

steamer
10-25-2007, 06:02 AM
http://s164.photobucket.com/albums/u27/mcandrew1894/?action=view&current=P1010216.jpghttp://s164.photobucket.com/albums/u27/mcandrew1894/?action=view&current=P1010214.jpghttp://s164.photobucket.com/albums/u27/mcandrew1894/?action=view&current=P-1.jpg

Lets see if this works

Dave

Thorne
10-25-2007, 08:16 AM
http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u27/mcandrew1894/P-1.jpg

With photobucket and some other sites, you have to remove all the text after the "xxxxx.jpg" part of the URL.

Here's how to post -

First - don't attach photos. Most web forums don't allow it, and space
limitations are the main reason why.

Second - Instead of attaching them to a thread, post the pics on the web
somewhere. You have a free website area with any paid ISP's email account,
or use www.picturetrail.com or other free hosting service. Once posted on
the web, right-click the image to copy the URL (web address). Always test
first by pasting the image URL into the window of a web browser and see if
the image displays.

Remember, the IMAGE URL will end in .jpg, not .htm or html. URLs ending in .htm are the page that the image is at, not the image location itself.

Third - once posted on the web, try this procedure while logged in to this
Forum:

1. Click the "User CP" link in the browser window in the top left of the
menu bar.
2. Click the "Edit Options" link about 1/4 of the way down the left column.
3. In the "Misc Options" at the bottom of the next page, select "Enhanced
Interface" from the pulldown list.
4. Once this interface has been selected, in any "Reply" window you can
click the "insert photo" icon --> a little yellow square icon with the stamp
in the upper right corner, the mountains in the lower center.
5. Once the little dialog box titled "Please enter the URL of your image"
comes up, paste the URL of the photo in the field.

If unsure of the procedure, test first by pasting the image URL into the
window of a web browser.

ahp
10-25-2007, 09:11 AM
Photo opportunity?? Fifty years ago at the University of Michigan, on the first floor of East Engineering, there was a steam engine in a glass case from Horace Dodge's fast commuter. It was a quadruple expansion engine developing 1000 hp at 450 rpm and drove the fast commuter at about 40 knots.

Bob Cleek
10-25-2007, 04:22 PM
Steamboats? I got yer steamboats right here... just launched after a total rebuild (new hull, too)... and she's got SIX, count 'em, six!!! steam engines in there.

http://www.tricoastal.com/Cangarda/Cangarda.html

http://www.contracostatimes.com/ci_6712560?source=most_viewed

Lew Barrett
10-25-2007, 04:29 PM
Quite a story. What's the little mishap going to cost in terms of extra work? My kind of boat.

Thorne
10-25-2007, 06:35 PM
Hey, that's MY launchramp! And I sure as heck wouldn't try launching a megayacht there....it might roll over or summat. Lots of riprap rocks a little to close to that ramp for my piece of mind.

steamer
10-26-2007, 05:50 PM
Thank you for the instruction on picture posting
I will endevor to use that in future
For the record, Cangarda has an inverted triple expansion condensing engine.
3 cylinders..3 differant size pistons..one engine.
The extra "cylinders" are the piston valves that control admitting the steam into each cylinder.
The center cylinder (HP high pressure) takes it steam from the boiler. The IP intermediate pressure cylinder takes its steam from the HP receiver. The LP Low Pressure cylinder takes it steam from the IP receiver. The big gray drum is the surface condensor which takes the exhaust steam from the LP, condenses it to water and makes it available to the boiler feed pump.

There isn't a transmission. Reversing is instantaneous and accomplished via the valve gear which appear to be of the Geared Rotary type used by Herreshoff and Seabury.
Steam engine torque curves are a constant horizontal line. That means it has maximum torque at 0 rpm.

steamer
10-26-2007, 05:53 PM
Horace Dodges fast commuter engines were made by NAT Himself

I believe the name of the boat was the "tarantula"

angsiglar
10-26-2007, 10:26 PM
Gosh. People are interested in steamboats. Some folks think we're Luddites - but Luddites use candles and plow with horses. We use kerosene lamps and plow with Case traction engines.

There are a lot of really neat sites on the web of steamboating organizations:
Northwest Steam Society: http://www.northweststeamsociety.org
International Steamboat Society: http://www.steamboating.org
North American Steam Boat Association: http://www.northamericansba.org

The ISS, above, has an online calendar of some hobby steamboating events worldwide as well as an excellent "links" page. And we mostly use wooden boats (the steam power plant is the most important thing though).

angsiglar
10-26-2007, 10:30 PM
Horace Dodges fast commuter engines were made by NAT Himself

I believe the name of the boat was the "tarantula"

And how about SY Delphine; http://www.ssdelphine.com - now there's a steamboat!

Pericles
10-30-2007, 08:45 AM
Slough?????? Slough Come, friendly bombs, and fall on Slough
It isn't fit for humans now,
There isn't grass to graze a cow
Swarm over, Death!

Come, bombs, and blow to smithereens
Those air-conditioned, bright canteens,
Tinned fruit, tinned meat, tinned milk, tinned beans
Tinned minds, tinned breath.

Mess up the mess they call a town --
A house for ninety-seven down
And once a week for half-a-crown
For twenty years,

And get that man with double chin
Who'll always cheat and always win,
Who washes his repulsive skin
In women's tears,

And smash his desk of polished oak
And smash his hands so used to stroke
And stop his boring dirty joke
And make him yell.

But spare the bald young clerks who add
The profits of the stinking cad;
It's not their fault that they are mad,
They've tasted Hell.

It's not their fault they do not know
The birdsong from the radio,
It's not their fault they often go
To Maidenhead

And talk of sports and makes of cars
In various bogus Tudor bars
And daren't look up and see the stars
But belch instead.

In labour-saving homes, with care
Their wives frizz out peroxide hair
And dry it in synthetic air
And paint their nails.

Come, friendly bombs, and fall on Slough
To get it ready for the plough.
The cabbages are coming now;
The earth exhales.

-- John Betjeman (http://www.cs.rice.edu/%7Essiyer/minstrels/index_poet_B.html#Betjeman)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slough


Far better this http://www.steamboat.org.uk/ :D:D:D

Pericles

angsiglar
10-30-2007, 10:38 AM
Or this: http://www.steamboating.org

Lew Barrett
01-26-2008, 11:35 AM
I'm bumping this for Banjo. It's really in the wrong part of the forum, should have been posted to Misc., but....too late now! Anyway Banjo, here you go!

Flying Orca
01-26-2008, 12:07 PM
Come, friendly bombs, and fall on Slough
It isn't fit for humans now,
There isn't grass to graze a cow
Swarm over, Death!

Come, bombs, and blow to smithereens
Those air-conditioned, bright canteens,
Tinned fruit, tinned meat, tinned milk, tinned beans
Tinned minds, tinned breath.

Mess up the mess they call a town --
A house for ninety-seven down
And once a week for half-a-crown
For twenty years,

And get that man with double chin
Who'll always cheat and always win,
Who washes his repulsive skin
In women's tears,

And smash his desk of polished oak
And smash his hands so used to stroke
And stop his boring dirty joke
And make him yell.

But spare the bald young clerks who add
The profits of the stinking cad;
It's not their fault that they are mad,
They've tasted Hell.

It's not their fault they do not know
The birdsong from the radio,
It's not their fault they often go
To Maidenhead

And talk of sports and makes of cars
In various bogus Tudor bars
And daren't look up and see the stars
But belch instead.

In labour-saving homes, with care
Their wives frizz out peroxide hair
And dry it in synthetic air
And paint their nails.

Come, friendly bombs, and fall on Slough
To get it ready for the plough.
The cabbages are coming now;
The earth exhales.

-- John Betjeman (http://www.cs.rice.edu/%7Essiyer/minstrels/index_poet_B.html#Betjeman)


God save our gracious queen, long live our noble queen
She lives in Slough
It's by the motorway, just a stone's throw away
From where the refugees all stay
She lives in Slough

She's just like you and me, with a posher lavatory
She lives in Slough
Tourists and tyrants know it's handy for Heathrow
She wears a hat and says "Hello" ("What do you do?")
She lives in Slough

And though she owns Balmoral and her income's immoral,
She lives in Slough
She probably likes the view, and a good sag aloo
She probably votes Labour, too
She lives in Slough!

- Robb Johnson

Banjo
01-26-2008, 05:24 PM
I'm bumping this for Banjo. It's really in the wrong part of the forum, should have been posted to Misc., but....too late now! Anyway Banjo, here you go!

Hey thanks Lew!
Musta missed this one somehow...
Cheers mate. :D