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hansp77
09-25-2007, 07:30 AM
Finally, I have finished and installed the new pushpit, which I desinged and (with some help) made myself.
It took me, well, just a little while:rolleyes: but it is on there, and aside from being really really comfortable, it is solid as a rock, and I am really happy with the lines and appearance and how it works with my boat.:cool:

Here is a shot of it at home, just after final fitting of the timber seating.
http://www.boatdesign.net/forums/../gallery/data/500/medium/pushpit.jpg
Rather than forking out for teak, or sourcing out some white beech, I compromised and just used some merbau (Kwila) I had at hand (if worst comes to worst, it will not be hard to pull it off and use it as templates for some other timber).
After soaking in my bathtub for about a month, topped up and drained with each daily shower- helped with a few hits of napisan (to leach out the tannins that will ruin any finish applied to the merbau) I re-sanded to glossy finish and saturated it in pure tung oil for about three days (with a little dryer added) and it has cleaned up a treat (now I just have to get the dryed tung oil off my stainless steel).

The S Steel is all 316 grade, and was welded by a combination of TIG and MIG. Most of it by an uncle and myself and the last touches by some goon I had to pay through the nose for (because we had lost access to the last welder we where using).

Cost? well, I would rather not think about that... Nearly half the cost was paying the SOB at the end who overcharged me, and then a whole lot in stainless steel... but still cheaper and IMHO better made and fitted to my boat than what it would have cost to get someone else to do it... Just.:rolleyes:
It is done and on there, that is all I care about now.:)

heres a picture of it just after installing on the boat.
http://www.boatdesign.net/forums/../gallery/data/500/medium/Pushpit_on_the_boat.JPG

If you can ignore that dodgey old bird poo covered poop deck hatch and deck (that is the next thing waiting to be put down next weekend- a lovely new-built curved-top hatch) then you can see how it is positioned. The bottom of the curved back legs sits square on top of the transom, and the front rail of the seat (under your knees) is pretty much directly above the transom line and follows where the old pushpit middle rail sat (with the curve of the wood following the curve of the transom). The plan was, to get somewhere comfortable to sit, while maximising, and indeed increasing, our usable deck space. The old one I ripped (literally snapped!) off over a year ago was just made out of old iron water pipes, was rusted to the s!!t house, and weighed a tonne. With all the extra size, and the timber seating, I actually doubt if this new one is any heavier than the old.

I can't remember the actual dimensions I used for the seat and back, but it was worked out as standard to ergonomical requirements of a comfortable seat... and it is comfortable.
When sitting at the tiller, the back rest and rail is thankfully well below the horizon line, so does not significantly impede ones view- which was something I was concerned about.

Here is a shot of Altair floating in the water where you can sort of see the profile of the pushpit.
http://www.boatdesign.net/gallery/data/500/medium/Altair_in_the_day.JPG
Now that the pushpit is on, I can finally put up my stauchions again- well almost.. so in anticipation, I have just finished reinstalling my toerails (where my jib sheets run through) with brass runners/travellers that with the deck , my staunchions screw into...
basically a lot has been waiting on this blasted pushpit.

next weekend I will get the new poop deck hatch down, soon after that the restored splasboards and winches, then the staunchions... and we are ready to repaint that bird crap stained deck, etc...
The engine (old stuart turner 8hp) I have finally got running well, after fixing the carby and its float- and I can now with confidence get the thing started.

Anyway, there it is, comments welcome,
(critiscism too if you want- I think some would prefer two vertical back supports instead of one... but, I like one:D)

and in the mean time (because sailing is not really very practical or easy at the moment) we have been having a good time camping out on it.
Here was a night a couple of weeks ago, sitting on my new pushpit seat, celebrating my partner and I's 5 yr anniversery, looking out over the melbourne city skyline.

http://www.boatdesign.net/gallery/data/500/medium/City_night_view.JPG

Hans.

Figment
09-25-2007, 08:29 AM
Looks like a quick way to make a boat feel 3' longer!

(you do know what a "pushpit seat" is really called, right?)

hansp77
09-25-2007, 08:38 AM
(you do know what a "pushpit seat" is really called, right?)

Quick tell me and I'll edit:D

no but seriously, I am sure there is a better name, but that is what it has been called around here

hansp77
09-25-2007, 08:56 AM
Looks like a quick way to make a boat feel 3' longer!



A QUICK WAY!???
damn, some one should have told me.. it took me over a year to get that thing done:o
thats why I happily paid through the nose in the end to get that '@#$%#' to finish it.
Oh and its actually about 1 1/2' maybe 2' longer.

seanz
09-26-2007, 06:04 PM
critiscism too if you want

Why not post this in building and repair?

Looks like a good job.
How much more to do ?
Just the topsides and staunchions?
Summers coming :)

snaiken
09-26-2007, 06:27 PM
The seat looks great. I thought I'd include a photo of mine. It just sits on the rail using just it's own weight to hold it there. It really works great, it's never fallen off (although I'd take it off if I were to take on any real waves, of course you'd probably not be sitting there anyway in those conditions!). This way I can take it off when I'm done sailing and my finish stays nice. I can also put my seat cushions on it by slipping the handles over the bench and then putting the bench on. Works nice as a padded back rest too when I'm sitting in the cock pit. Two or three people can sit up there and stay out of the way. It is like adding 3 ft! It's rock solid when sitting on it and no modifications to the rail were needed. This is the best picture I could find of it.http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u114/snaiken/boat/IMG_3263.jpg

hansp77
09-26-2007, 10:59 PM
Seanz-
yeah I suppose building and repair would have been a better place for it- I thought it was just a case of 'if you can't say anything nice':o

more to do is,
fit the new hatch- sounds easy of course but is anything ever (especially working out on the water)? Will do that next weekend,
get the spashboards down, and my winches down off them- and as the winches (and their brackets) are supported off the splashboards onto the deck(read lots of strain) both have to be really well supported and backed under the deck- this was one of the major rot points and weaknesses in the last set up. Still figuring out how I am going to tackle this.
After this point- well we'll probably go for a sail:D
and then get the stanchions down- same deal as the splashboards- I need to support these things really well as this was the other main rot point.

And as it is, we are a little overdue for a haul out. As soon as it warms up a little I will go for a swim and scrub the hull slime and growth- but my plan was to get all this work done on the water, and pull it out just to paint it. That way when all the other little extra jobs come up, it will mean our plan to be out for a week will only blow out to a month- rather than three or four;)

And yes, summer is coming- I am feeling the urgency.

Snaiken,
yours looks great- not to mention that lovely deck and glowing woodwork.
Beautiful boat, would love to see some more shots.
If I had a workable pushpit already I probably would have done it like you have done- however as I had to build one from scratch already I wanted to try the overhang thing, in order to gain as much space as I could, to keep the stay out of the way, and also because we have a hatch under there for storage, and petrol tank etc.
I was worried it would look a little frankenboat- but am more than happy with it- next I am out there I will try to get a better shot. Once the lifelines are back up, I think it will really come together and any 'oddness' will be invisible.

One other thing I have done is to weld on a few eye nuts in a couple of locations. One each on the port and starboard vertical supports and two down the back vertical support (hope that makes sense).
http://whitworths.com.au/products/35135_lg.gif

I got these so that the inside radius snugly fits (with a little machining out) the same size S Steel tube as I used for the pushpit and have a heap left over of.
For the port and starboard ones, I am going to make fittings like a BBQ bracket, a couple of baitboards for fishing, and anything else I might want- that will sit flush with the top railing.
Then the two on the vertical support at the back are for are for inserting a pole to raise and pole-out a boom tent.
This was also one of the reasons I went for one back virtical rather than two (or three).

They will also just be handy for tying lines to and stuff- towing the dingy, whatever.

anyway, thanks for the comments.

Hans.

pipefitter
09-27-2007, 12:21 AM
Way to go. I get to build/modify quite a few things out of that tubing often.

The Bigfella
09-27-2007, 04:38 AM
Looking good mate.......

Nice to see projects come to fruition eh?

I must get on the water this weekend.....

seanz
09-27-2007, 05:38 AM
Hans ,it was the only criticism I dared make. :D
You are restoring/renovating (performing advanced maintenance?) on a boat at it's mooring. I have my trailersailer parked next to my workshop in my backyard. I don't know how you do it.
More power to your arm I say.
:)
That goes for you too Bigfella.

hansp77
09-27-2007, 07:37 AM
Cheers guys,
Ian, yeah, it is great to see projects come to fruition.
So slowly it seems things just putter along, and then there are the moments of big sudden change such as this...
weather and circumstances permitting there is going to be a lot more over the next few weeks.

Seanz, I am getting the hang of working on the water. Haven't even dropped a tool overboard yet (knocking on wood right now)- and aside from that it is all about the prep. I make lists, and double, triple, quadruple check them- going through the following days project in my mind again and again, making sure I have every screw, nut, drill bit, tool and tube of goop... same as the others who work on the the water no doubt.
One of the hardest things is lugging all the gear up and down the big long pier every day. Its ok if you have nothing else to carry out, but most days I am lugging something like the pushpit on one shoulder, and a pile of timber on the other, and a bag of heavy tools hanging off your back too- it kills you. So, I have had to double up on a lot of stuff. Workshop at home, workshop on boat.
Having a generator out there is simply essential IMO.

Working on your boat in your backyard- well that just makes me envious.

And finally I don't really think of myself as 'restoring' this boat (though its not like we are changing it far from original)- rather we sort of saved it, and are almost finished 'fixing' it. Short story, we replaced the deck and cabin roof, re-supporting both... and a whole swag of other things. Maybe once we get into the finer last details, the timber interior, finishing the woodwork etc, then I might begin to think of myself as 'restoring it'- but looking round here at all the fine work that is done by members, I don't feel that way yet.
Just a fixer so far.

Cheers,
Hans.