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Tar Devil
09-13-2007, 06:02 AM
... just don't exist in todays world. Cars from the big three, the top Japs manufacturers, Bimmers, Jags, and Benzs pass me all day on my 100 mile daily commute and I think, "They all look like they came from the same cookie cutter."

Of current production cars one of the best looking, IMHO, is the Mazda 3 5 door...

http://digiads.com.au/car-news/images/article_794-img_0.jpg

I really miss the 60's and 70's designs...

The Bigfella
09-13-2007, 06:22 AM
Aston Martin

The Bigfella
09-13-2007, 06:22 AM
http://www.amlvantage.com/images/large/db9/115.jpg

P.I. Stazzer-Newt
09-13-2007, 06:36 AM
http://www.evo.co.uk/images/front_picture_library_UK/dir_401/car_photo_200606_7.jpg

Same cookie cutter

Joe (SoCal)
09-13-2007, 06:38 AM
Hey I think the Chrysler 300M looks as good as a Bently at about 1/3 the price.

http://www.familycar.com/RoadTests/Chrysler300C/Images/LeftFront.jpg

Paul Pless
09-13-2007, 06:39 AM
Phil, I agree I like those Mazdas. Have you seen the new Subura WRX hatchback?

One of my neighbors just bought one of these, its one of the cooler cars in the neighborhood I think.
http://www.badgerbimmers.org/uploads/marks_635_front.jpg

Joe (SoCal)
09-13-2007, 06:47 AM
Pontiac-Solstice

http://www.diseno-art.com/images/Pontiac-Solstice-rear.jpg

http://www.diseno-art.com/images/pontiac_solstice.jpg

Popeye
09-13-2007, 06:55 AM
why is every other car painted in that grey-green-silver nondescript muted color ?

P.I. Stazzer-Newt
09-13-2007, 06:57 AM
why is every other car painted in that grey-green-silver nondescript muted color ?

Cos the owners are clueless -
here is better:
http://www.algysautos.com/images/nissan-escargot.jpg

or..
http://www.hondacrx.co.uk/club/gfx/iain_santapod.jpg

Joe (SoCal)
09-13-2007, 06:58 AM
why is every other car painted in that grey-green-silver nondescript muted color ?

Blame James Dean and his Porsche spyder ;)

http://www.livefastdieyoungbook.com/index_files/james_dean_porsche_spyder.jpg

Popeye
09-13-2007, 07:12 AM
http://web.syr.edu/%7Ejchung08/car.jpgi am grateful the nail polish phase is over

LeeG
09-13-2007, 07:34 AM
I had a '76 Rabbit,,with a hole in the muffler it's a great car. That big Benz, quasi-stationwagon/crossover/van/suv the one with the quasi jelly bean shape is bizarre. From a distance it looks like a rounded over Civic hatch back until it gets close and it's the size of a Dodge Caravan.

That Solstice looks good, Mustang, but I'd like the Accord wagon to come back. I hear they're working on a V-4 diesel.

Tar Devil
09-13-2007, 08:08 AM
Yeah, the Aston Martin is nice, but never, ever do I get to see one on my commute.

Paul, I like the Subaru OK, but the styling is a little too aggressive for my taste.

I will amend my original post slightly... this sucker passed me today, and it's kinda nice, especially for a GM brand. Close cousin to that Pontiac, Joe (which is a VERY nice car)

http://www.saturn.com/saturn/showroom/future_vehicles/SKY_scenic2.jpg

The Bigfella
09-13-2007, 08:31 AM
That Saturn looks OK there - but strewth that Pontiac is fugly

LeeG
09-13-2007, 08:47 AM
I think it's the influence of rap. Must be good for the aluminum rim industry. Give me a 3000lb car with 14" wheels and I can be happy.

Joe (SoCal)
09-13-2007, 08:52 AM
I think it's the influence of rap. Must be good for the aluminum rim industry. Give me a 3500lb car with 14" wheels and I can be happy.

Yo an it be stupid murder in matt black on black, with 22 inch chrome rims platinum shield, and a pumpin pimp base :D

...... Word.... peace ....I'm out

Tar Devil
09-13-2007, 08:57 AM
Everything coming out of Chrysler these days looks like it's straight from the pages of a graphic novel (comic book).

Chrysler gets points for being bold with their body styles, but (again, just my opinion) their cars get dated quickly. Kinda what worries me about the changes they've made to the Jeep.

The 300, I'll admit, is one of their better efforts.

Paul Pless
09-13-2007, 09:20 AM
Norman, that just don't work for me.:p

http://www.churchhopping.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/10/popemobile.jpg

blech!

davidagage
09-13-2007, 09:29 AM
Yo an it be stupid murder in matt black on black, with 22 inch chrome rims platinum shield, and a pumpin pimp base :D

...... Word.... peace ....I'm out


The dub is dead...

Long live the Donk

http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r32/diesel10178/donkk.jpg

Phillip Allen
09-13-2007, 09:33 AM
here's my vote

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hansom_cab

Keith Wilson
09-13-2007, 12:19 PM
Paul, is that an aquarium in back, with some poor damp fellow up to his chin in water? You'd think it would slosh around a lot in turns . . .

http://www.churchhopping.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/10/popemobile.jpg

Bob Cleek
09-13-2007, 03:30 PM
They haven't made a really great looking car since before the War:

http://www.carstyling.ru/resources/classic/37mb_540sr.jpg

1936 Mercedes Benz 540K Spezial roadster... 27 made. Present high auction value, about $4.5 million. Generally considered by classic auto authorities to be the world's most beautiful motorcar.

Once they started relying on wind tunnels to design car bodies, they all started looking the same because their designs were dictated by the constants of physics. The price you pay for efficiency, I guess. Still, there's a place for wretched excess now and again.

John B
09-13-2007, 04:37 PM
I like the new XKR and the A.M., and the Cayman.Quite like the Mini. I think Bimmers are going through a 'bad' period compared to their older models. That 635 Coupe( if thats what it is) is a lovely thing.
The new Subaru is launched here on Monday, but they can't really go wrong there given the travesty of the last one.

Hwyl
09-13-2007, 04:48 PM
http://www.morgan-motor.co.uk/sales/roadster%20web%20large.jpg
(http://www.morgan-motor.co.uk/sales/roadster.html)

John Meachen
09-13-2007, 05:33 PM
I am lucky enough to see a few good looking cars.A fellow that lives a couple of hundred yards up the road has a Citroen C6.In addition,I often see a couple of Bristols on the commute to work,one a Blenheim and one a 411.I think we may soon see a rash of better looking cars as I browsed the car design news website earlier this evening www.cardesignnews.com/site/home/ and was quite impressed by some of the offerings at the Frankfurt motor show.The GM Flextreme looks very good from the side,the Volkswagen up!(silly name) is a good looking and potentially excellent concept and the Ford Verve ought to succeed.

The Bigfella
09-13-2007, 06:10 PM
That 635 Coupe( if thats what it is) is a lovely thing.



It appears to have the M635CSi front spoiler on it. Paul - does it have the Motorsport engine (6 throttle bodies)?

One of those will be my next project - when I clear the current backlog. I spotted a base model for sale the other day with a blown engine - and I have a spare M5 engine just waiting for a rebuild ......... Gotta sell some cars.

I like the look of the new Mercedes C Class - not that I've seen one on the road. The CLS is a cockroach though.

John B
09-13-2007, 07:40 PM
I'm not a fan of drooped arse cars in general. the AU Falcon for example.. yik.
But that Merc, I nearly do.
http://www.allsportauto.com/photoautre/mercedes/cls/2004_mercedes_cls_02_m.jpg

oldsub86
09-13-2007, 07:53 PM
http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p294/oldsub86/Image014.jpg

Lew Barrett
09-13-2007, 08:26 PM
That 635 Coupe( if thats what it is) is a lovely thing.

The problem with them is that in my opinion they don't drive very well. Heavy.

Paul Fitzgerald
09-13-2007, 09:34 PM
The power steering is set to fairly heavy, but mine has the same power to weight ratio as a Subaru WRX, so its no slug.
Maybe not in the same league as a 427 V8, but it stops and corners too.

The Bigfella
09-13-2007, 10:01 PM
The problem with them is that in my opinion they don't drive very well. Heavy.


Lew, one of the things that attracts me to one is that they are lighter than the M5 - so will be quicker with the same engine. They range from 1410kg to the 1500kg mark - so, start at 3100 lbs. Some of the US versions picked up heavy bumpers / fenders - but not all.

I want a tatty one, so I can strip the sound deadening, air con, etc and come in at about the 1250kg mark - with 340 hp. The M5 is 1750kg or so. There's no nicer tune than the DOHC, 24 valve, 6 throttle-body straight six at 7,000 rpm.

Lew Barrett
09-14-2007, 07:22 PM
Lew, one of the things that attracts me to one is that they are lighter than the M5 - so will be quicker with the same engine. They range from 1410kg to the 1500kg mark - so, start at 3100 lbs. Some of the US versions picked up heavy bumpers / fenders - but not all.

I want a tatty one, so I can strip the sound deadening, air con, etc and come in at about the 1250kg mark - with 340 hp. The M5 is 1750kg or so. There's no nicer tune than the DOHC, 24 valve, 6 throttle-body straight six at 7,000 rpm.

I drove one back when they were current issue. I ended up buying a 535i because it seemed to me the driving dynamics were superior. Now, have to admit, it wasn't an M6; regular garden variety 635csi.
Maybe Paul's explanation is more on target, that the steering has an oddly weighted feel. With the same power and drivetrain, and the same detailing as a standard 535, I just went for the sedan. Kept it for 10 years and sold it to a friend, who's happy with it to this day. I expect Euro and Australian versions were considerably more powerful. The US didn't get equal HP in BMWs compared to what you guys were enjoying until very recently.

PeterSibley
09-14-2007, 08:17 PM
Hey I think the Chrysler 300M looks as good as a Bently at about 1/3 the price.

http://www.familycar.com/RoadTests/Chrysler300C/Images/LeftFront.jpg
A different market to a Bentley I think , it looks like something designed for the 'hood :D.der Gangstermobile .

john l
09-14-2007, 08:30 PM
everytime i see one of those chrysler 300's i think of "bruce waynes" car.
yes the alter ego of batman and his batmobile. i'm amazed that chrysler has no shame with it's pretend custom cars. i guess they are for a culture that can have anything it wants and many people want a homogenized custom car.
in the design business these type of solutions are called design masturbations.

from a design perspective i find the more basic transportation to be better designed, more practical and efficient and more difficult to achieve. i think LFH would probably like a rabbit, civic or c30. from design engineering, practicality and utility standpoints these cars have a lot going for them. heck, from a handsome utility standpoint i still like my volvo 240 wagon. with over 200k it still drives as it was new.