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Jon Etheredge
07-19-2007, 09:42 PM
Rather than hijack the "My boy riding his two-wheeler" thread, I thought I start a new thread.

This quote came from the other thread...




Do you guys have those as well?

http://www.heos-ostbevern.de/bilder/angebote/laufrad.jpg

We gave one of those to my girlfriend's nephew in the UK. It proofed to be a very good idea, since the boy learned to keep his balance even before riding a "real" bike. He didn't have the typical problem of pushing the pedals and at the same time keeping his balance when he started with a bicycle. Much better than the training-wheel method of learning bike riding.


Yes, the pedal-less bikes for children are available in the US. The first time I saw one was in a mail order catalog a couple of years ago. That was a German made bike marketed under the name "Like-a-Bike". The Like-a-Bike is made of wood. It looked like a terrific idea but the price tag was a bit steep at about $250.00. So I built one for my son and gave it to him for Christmas when he was 3 years old.

This is the bike that I built for my son...

http://www.intergate.com/~jethered/images/wood_bike.jpg

The first couple of rides he wanted me to hold the bike up and push him. After that he wanted to push himself. Within 2 weeks he was zooming down the slight incline on our driveway at top speed, balancing and steering very well.

After riding the push bike countless miles in our driveway and at parks, my son got a pedal bike (without training wheels) for his 4th birthday. I helped him get going exactly one time. He wanted to do it himself after that (he gets his stubborn nature from both parents :)). He was able to balance, steer, and pedal without any problems from the beginning but it was a day or so until he was really comfortable getting started. He is almost 5 years old now and regularly rides his pedal bike alongside me on the 2 mile round trip up the dirt road to our mailbox.

Now the push bike gets handed down to our younger daughter.

In my experience, the push bike (pedal-less bike or whatever they are called) is a fantastic way to introduce children to bicycle riding. No trauma and no headaches for the child or the parents. Just the fun and sense of accomplishment for everybody.


In the past year, these bikes have become much more available here in the US. I have seen one in an Ace Hardware store that is sold under the Western Flyer name. A month or so ago, I saw at Target one for only $49.00. It is a Chinese knockoff but it looked pretty good. Both of those are wood versions similar to the Like-a-Bike. I noticed a steel one at a local bike shop that is being sold by Trek at around $150.00 I think.

It probably isn't economical to make one yourself anymore but if anyone is interested, I'd be happy to post or email info on how to make one yourself. The wheels cost about $10-15 each so if you can get the rest of materials out of your offcut pile you may be able to build one for less than it costs to buy one from Target. It's a fun project.

Nanoose
07-19-2007, 09:46 PM
Great! :) I like yours better, Jon ;)

P.I. Stazzer-Newt
07-20-2007, 02:58 AM
Neat - saw a commercial variant in "Lidl" - a small german shop.

but its not an entirely original idea
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/42/Draisine1817.jpg/200px-Draisine1817.jpg

huisjen
07-20-2007, 07:12 AM
Jon, nice work.

The simplest way I could see to make one of those is to get a yard sale bike, remove the chain and gut the bottom bracket. Maybe give it a funky paint job in the process. The bike we shared as kids was painted green with a rattle can and called "the pickle".

Dan

Brian Palmer
07-20-2007, 07:50 AM
When my youngest was trying to first ride without training wheels, I just took the pedals off his 12-inch bike so they wouldn't hit his legs as he pushed along and coasted. When he was confident with that, I just put them back on. I got the idea from seeing the push bikes in catalogs.

--Brian

Andrew Craig-Bennett
07-20-2007, 07:53 AM
Just as a general comment, most of the "starting" bicycles that one sees for sale have been "styled" to the point where they are not ideal for a little child starting to cycle.

Thanks to the fashion fad for dressing little boys in clumping heavy shoes, etc., most starter bikes are much too heavy. A child will learn much faster on a very light weight cycle. They can manage it better, it won't hurt them so much when it lands on top of them and they won't be so scared of it.

I agree that taking the pedals off is better than fitting "training wheels"

brad9798
07-20-2007, 08:05 AM
Nice bike, Jon!!!

Nicholas Carey
07-20-2007, 12:40 PM
The Like-A-Bike is great -- here's their (USA) web site with groovy video: http://www.likeabikeusa.com/

but the $299 USD price tag is a bit much.

The KinderBike that Martin Schulz posted

http://www.mykinderbike.com/userimages/Picture%20003.jpgmod?rand=1158252480

is available in the USA (Aurora Colorado) -- http://www.mykinderbike.com/ -- and the price is much better $60 USD.

We stumbled across the Target knock-off of the LikeABike last February (in Duluth!) and picked one up for His Monsterness. Here he is in his crocs:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/216/498589131_6a433e5258.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/handforged/498589131/)

But sadly, even at its lowest setting, the Target LikeABike knockoff is still just a noodge too tall for him (and he's a tall 2-year old).


It probably isn't economical to make one yourself anymore but if anyone is interested, I'd be happy to post or email info on how to make one yourself. The wheels cost about $10-15 each so if you can get the rest of materials out of your offcut pile you may be able to build one for less than it costs to buy one from Target. It's a fun project.I thought about making one, but I couldn't figure out how to make the steering mechanism work -- everything else is pretty darn simple. If you could post (or email details/plans/whatever) on how to build it, that would be great.

Jon Etheredge
07-20-2007, 11:15 PM
Good looking son ya' got there, Nicholas!



The Like-A-Bike is great -- here's their (USA) web site with groovy video: http://www.likeabikeusa.com/



Yeah, I saw the video on the Like-A-Bike site and I was sold. These bikes are so cool. Everybody with young kids should get one of these things.



I thought about making one, but I couldn't figure out how to make the steering mechanism work -- everything else is pretty darn simple. If you could post (or email details/plans/whatever) on how to build it, that would be great.



The bike I built is all made of Birch ply. I used Baltic Birch Plywood (sometimes known as Apple Ply or other names). Sorry about the mud on the bike in the pictures that follow. The bike was "rode hard and put away wet" the last time it was used :)

The fork is made of 2 layers of 1/2" ply laminated with epoxy. The steering is just a 3/8" diameter cold finish steel rod. I routed a groove in the back of the fork for the rod to fit into. I drilled a hole from front to back of the fork right through the rod. I tapped the holes in the rod and fastened it in place with 10-32 socket head cap screws. You could also drill a clearance hole though the rod and use a nut on the back. The pivot is simply a 3/8" hole drilled through the plywood frame.

http://www.intergate.com/~jethered/images/WoodBike_00.jpg

http://www.intergate.com/~jethered/images/WoodBike_01.jpg

The handle bars are the same 2 layers of 1/2" ply fastened to the fork with #10 x 2 1/2" screws.

The frame of the bike is laminated from 1/4" plywood. There are 2 layers on each side. I laminated each side separately by clamping the forward end to a 2x6 and then adding some blocking on top of the 2x6 at the back to create half the frame width needed. I let the plywood take a natural bend from front to back but I did add some spring clamps to clamp the laminates to themselves in the middle part of the frame.

http://www.intergate.com/~jethered/images/WoodBike_04.jpg

After I profiled each of the 2 sides, I glued them together at the front. You can cut a groove in each half before gluing them together to guide the 3/8" drill bit for the fork pivot. I cut some scrap pine 1x6 for fillers and to form a slot for the seat upright.

http://www.intergate.com/~jethered/images/WoodBike_03.jpg

Here are a couple of drawings you can use to determine the shape of the sides and the fork angle. Each square is one inch. I just layed out the fork shape as I went but I could take some measurements if anybody wants that.

http://www.intergate.com/~jethered/images/bike-drawing.jpg

http://www.intergate.com/~jethered/images/bike-frame.jpg

I mail ordered the wheels from Northern Tool. They are nominally 12" diameter and have 1/2" ID bushings in the hub. You can find them on their web site. If anybody has trouble finding them let me know and I'll look them up.

The axles are 1/2" cold finish steel rod. I drilled and tapped the ends in my lathe for a 10-32 socket head cap screw and turned some heavy brass washers. You could just as easily use 1/2" all thread, fender washers, and a double nut on each end.