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JimD
07-03-2007, 06:24 AM
It looks as though there may not be any wmd in Iraq after all (apart from the ones the US brought with them) and they've decided to stop looking for them:


The UN Security Council has voted to end a programme charged with looking for suspected weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, after no such weapons were found.

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/44FC7989-9693-4E85-8B94-7D438F8056B3.htm

LeeG
07-03-2007, 07:51 AM
WMD was the ticket for regime change. Good thing we kept Osama from getting an Iraqi nuke.

With the non-supportive role of the UN as history and the precedent of invading Iraq it shouldn't be that hard to whack a mole as we see fit.

Blackwater can fill in if Congress gets picky.

puffin3
07-03-2007, 10:09 AM
They could find them easily: They are stored in quansit huts in Syria. What do you think the lines of trucks were filled with heading out of Iraq just before Sadam and his merry bunch of pyschopaths were attacked? Monopoly games?
When Iran says it's OK Syria will use them where/when they want to.

Joe (SoCal)
07-03-2007, 10:22 AM
They could find them easily: They are stored in quansit huts in Syria. What do you think the lines of trucks were filled with heading out of Iraq just before Sadam and his merry bunch of pyschopaths were attacked? Monopoly games?
When Iran says it's OK Syria will use them where/when they want to.


Naaaa puffin just say it's all Clinton's fault and poor yer self another nice tall glass of Neocon Kool-Aid :p

JimD
07-03-2007, 01:24 PM
[quote=puffin3;1608020]They could find them easily: They are stored in quansit huts in Syria. [quote]

Yeah, and Colin Powell is sellling the aerial recon photos on eBay. One of them looks like it has the image of Jesus. Bidding starts at $10.

JimD
07-03-2007, 01:44 PM
As long as we're musing about mobile wmd trucks, I like this old CNN program:



In one dramatic accusation in his speech, Powell showed slides alleging that Saddam had bioweapons labs mounted on trucks that would be almost impossible to find.
"In fact, Secretary Powell was not told that one of the sources he was given as a source of this information had indeed been flagged by the Defense Intelligence Agency as a liar, a fabricator," says David Kay, who served as the CIA's chief weapons inspector in Iraq after the fall of Saddam. That source, an Iraqi defector who had never been debriefed by the CIA, was known within the intelligence community as "Curveball."



"(Powell) came through the door ... and he had in his hands a sheaf of papers, and he said, 'This is what I've got to present at the United Nations according to the White House, and you need to look at it,'" Wilkerson says in the program. "It was anything but an intelligence document. It was, as some people characterized it later, sort of a Chinese menu from which you could pick and choose."


http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/meast/08/19/powell.un/index.html

ljb5
07-03-2007, 02:58 PM
They could find them easily: They are stored in quansit huts in Syria. What do you think the lines of trucks were filled with heading out of Iraq just before Sadam and his merry bunch of pyschopaths were attacked? Monopoly games?
When Iran says it's OK Syria will use them where/when they want to.

Golly, that doesn't sound too good.

Um....we're supposed to believe that Bush's ingenious plan worked perfectly? This was the desired result?

3,600 Americans died for this?

If you truly believe this, you're basically admitting that Bush is the biggest failure in the history of warfare. We have incurred all of the costs and injuries ... and acheived none of the benefits. Bravo.

Ross M
07-03-2007, 05:24 PM
Where in Puffin's statement does he indicate that he believes " Bush's ingenious plan worked perfectly"?

Ross

few3
07-03-2007, 08:30 PM
If you truly believe this, you're basically admitting that Bush is the biggest failure in the history of warfare. We have incurred all of the costs and injuries ... and acheived none of the benefits. Bravo.


Incorrectomundo,

1.) The Iraq war is ongoing ( You obviously know that. You wake up every day, smile, grab your pitch counter and hope for high soldier kills to add to your political fodder ). It's mission can't be called a failure or a success for a long time.

2.) Afghanistan was brilliant ( No it wasn't an Aspirin Factory, but it was still important)

3.)
None of the benefits?

I am pretty sure that England and Scotland are looking at US wishing they had our "no benefits"


Rosie ( artist formerly known as LJB5 ), you have to open your eyes and realise how good things are. Come on over to the right, the water (boarding:D ) is just fine.

Tanbark Spanker
07-03-2007, 08:53 PM
A very masterful transfer of public money to private pockets.

Tanbark Spanker
07-03-2007, 09:03 PM
I know this is old news, but ... http://www.wanniski.com/showarticle.asp?articleid=2434

few3
07-03-2007, 09:08 PM
There was also no Armenian Genocide (according to Turkey):rolleyes:

LeeG
07-03-2007, 10:12 PM
speaking of mobile bio weapons labs/trailers.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/04/11/AR2006041101888_pf.html

On May 29, 2003, 50 days after the fall of Baghdad, President Bush proclaimed a fresh victory for his administration in Iraq: Two small trailers captured by U.S. and Kurdish troops had turned out to be long-sought mobile "biological laboratories." He declared, "We have found the weapons of mass destruction."

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A secret fact-finding mission to Iraq -- not made public until now -- had already concluded that the trailers had nothing to do with biological weapons. Leaders of the Pentagon-sponsored mission transmitted their unanimous findings to Washington in a field report on May 27, 2003, two days before the president's statement.

The three-page field report and a 122-page final report three weeks later were stamped "secret" and shelved. Meanwhile, for nearly a year, administration and intelligence officials continued to publicly assert that the trailers were weapons factories.

......

Throughout the summer and fall of 2003, the trailers became simply "mobile biological laboratories" in speeches and press statements by administration officials. In late June, Secretary of State Colin L. Powell declared that the "confidence level is increasing" that the trailers were intended for biowarfare. In September, Vice President Cheney pronounced the trailers to be "mobile biological facilities," and said they could have been used to produce anthrax or smallpox.

.......

Kay, in an interview, said senior CIA officials had advised him upon accepting the survey group's leadership in June 2003 that some experts in the DIA were "backsliding" on whether the trailers were weapons labs. But Kay said he was not apprised of the technical team's findings until late 2003, near the end of his time as the group's leader.

"If I had known that we had such a team in Iraq," Kay said, "I would certainly have given their findings more weight."


.......
In the end, the final report -- 19 pages plus a 103-page appendix -- remained unequivocal in declaring the trailers unsuitable for weapons production.

"It was very assertive," said one weapons expert familiar with the report's contents.

Then, their mission completed, the team members returned to their jobs and watched as their work appeared to vanish.

"I went home and fully expected that our findings would be publicly stated," one member recalled. "It never happened. And I just had to live with it."

LeeG
07-03-2007, 10:21 PM
speaking of mobile bioweapons trailers and David Kay...

http://baltimore.indymedia.org/newswire/display/4430/index.php

The company was commissioned by G. W. Bush in 2002 to construct a replica of a mobile WMD laboratory of the sort used by Saddam. This mock up, supposedly destined to be used to train teams searching for WMDs in Iraq, was designed by Stephen Hatfill, the WMD expert now being harangued into isolation and thus silence by Bush's FBI.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Hatfill

After leaving USAMRIID, he worked for Science Applications International Corporation (SAIC), also on Ft Detrick, and later at Pennington Biomedical Research Center in Baton Rouge, LA. In September 2001 SAIC was commissioned by the Pentagon to create a replica of a mobile WMD "laboratory", alleged to have been used by Saddam. The Pentagon claimed the trailer was to be used as a training aide for teams seeking weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.

BrianW
07-03-2007, 10:48 PM
Who cares about WMDs... it was about 9/11.




























;)

JimD
07-04-2007, 08:13 AM
Who cares about WMDs... it was about 9/11.

Salvador Allende, president of Chile, died on September 11, 1973. But was it suicide or assasination?

Popeye
07-04-2007, 08:18 AM
i will never forget that dreadful day in january

JimD
07-04-2007, 08:20 AM
i will never forget that dreadful day in january

Weddings always make me cry, too.

Popeye
07-04-2007, 08:28 AM
always a bridesmaid never a bride

~sniffle~

JimD
07-04-2007, 08:30 AM
always a bridesmaid never a bride

~sniffle~

Have you thought about getting your teeth fixed?

Popeye
07-04-2007, 08:31 AM
no , they are perfect fer whistl'n

LeeG
07-04-2007, 03:47 PM
Who cares about WMDs... it was about 9/11. ;)

depends on your definition of "it".