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John B
04-17-2007, 05:11 PM
It has just got to be the Fiat Multipla for me.
http://www.ritzsite.net/RAI99/Fiat_Multipla_front.jpg

http://www.laurocar.it/images/MACCHINE/FIAT%20MULTIPLA.JPG
whenever I see one with the kids, I just can't help putting on the whispering Attenborough voice.....
" and now, as we look under this forecourt, we can see emerging what surely must be the ugliest car in the world"

StevenBauer
04-17-2007, 05:13 PM
Yup.

Bruce Hooke
04-17-2007, 05:18 PM
Wow, those things are ugly.

I don't think I've ever seen one. Does anyone know if they are even for sale in the US?

John B
04-17-2007, 05:27 PM
followed fairly distantly but inexplicably by the Subaru with the edsel face. It was just a face lift but... how could they do that
obviously Subaru has been infiltrated by Bastards International, the world encompassing subversives organisation whose stated policy is " to spoil everything"
I read , just on the weekend, that a counterinsurgency effort at Subaru HQ has resulted in the spavined lice infested pillock responsible for that adjusting to a new reality and they're getting good looking cars back soon.

http://www.automobilemag.com/future_cars/2008/0609_z_2006_subaru_impreza_wrx+front.jpg
yick,( shudder)

Bill R
04-17-2007, 05:41 PM
EEWWW! That Fiat is just plain FUGLY! What the HELL were they thinking?

The Bigfella
04-17-2007, 05:46 PM
IIRC the guy who brought in the new look at Soobie was the CEO - who wanted the company heritage recognised. That heritage, of course, related to WW2 fighter aircraft. The look is supposed to be aircraft body and wings. I think he may have been trying to copy Saab.

John B
04-17-2007, 05:47 PM
I bet he's itchy.

The Bigfella
04-17-2007, 05:48 PM
Here's one for you John:

http://www.geocities.com/xing6666/carnut/oddball/scooter.jpg

The Bigfella
04-17-2007, 05:50 PM
and ....... I know you are a fan of Jaguars: :D

http://www.geocities.com/xing6666/carnut/oddball/jag-6wheeler-web.jpg

John B
04-17-2007, 05:50 PM
I mean somewhere along the way a car which technically isn't very good looking might morph into "cute". the Bugeye sprite springs to mind... not really very pretty but sort of appealing.

That Multipla thing though, gee I dunno. I suppose it must have some following but the sooner they go through the system and end up as a cubic foot of crushed metal, the better off we'll be .

IMO.

John B
04-17-2007, 05:52 PM
ah, the old alternative energy eh.

and this one
http://www.geocities.com/xing6666/carnut/oddball/jag-6wheeler-web.jpg
must a watched too much Thunderbirds eh.

The Bigfella
04-17-2007, 05:54 PM
How about an ugly Lambo:

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/03/lamboalar1_lo.jpg

John B
04-17-2007, 06:04 PM
Yummy.:rolleyes:
You'd think that Paul P would have come up with something by now wouldn't you.
I remember suggesting a Multipla to Joe when he was looking( after one of his accidents), I never heard back from him and now... now that he's left for good, I guess I'll never know what he thinks about it.

Tylerdurden
04-17-2007, 06:04 PM
My son wants one, fast as hell but butt ugly

http://www.leblogauto.com/images/mitsubishi_evo_ix_20051l.jpg

The Bigfella
04-17-2007, 06:06 PM
Here's a nice American car

http://www.topgear.com/content/timetoburn/sections/carbage/pages/0260/main.jpg

John B
04-17-2007, 06:07 PM
The new Impreza looks more like that Evo . I don't mind that so much, wouldn't want one though ,too loud fer me.( in so many ways):D

The Bigfella
04-17-2007, 06:09 PM
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a32/blackf1ng3r/mysterycar12.jpg

John B
04-17-2007, 06:11 PM
waaal customs are one thing , but the guy who commits to a production run needs to get it right.
How well did these sell..?
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid132/pf40b368ce7a3596b01d12bfc5ef6cc96/f7961829.jpg
Can't say they would go on my pretty list.

Rick Starr
04-17-2007, 06:13 PM
http://inlinethumb11.webshots.com/586/1043469606034181967S425x425Q85.jpg

Rick Starr
04-17-2007, 06:18 PM
And then there's the 2CV which is so ugly it's loveable.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6e/Citroen2cvtff.jpg

John B
04-17-2007, 06:19 PM
thats what the Fiat guys must have been shooting for:D

The Bigfella
04-17-2007, 06:20 PM
waaal customs are one thing , but the guy who commits to a production run needs to get it right.



That last one of mine was a production car:



offered at a F.O.B. price of $19,600 (1967), had a weight of 5,740 lb (2,600 kg), and sat on a 119 in (3.02 m) wheelbase. Prices have also been quoted at $25,600. [1] Tires for the vehicle were nitrogen filled 7.50”x20” (USA).


Apparently they only sold three or four a year. Wanna guess at its name?

John B
04-17-2007, 06:25 PM
The only cue I can get out of that is the grille which is slightly Roller/Caddy/ Lincoln.
So I'd hazard a guess at either a UK invasion or a Caddy/ Lincoln offshoot?

Hwyl
04-17-2007, 06:30 PM
This is a rust free version of what my first car looked liike. Even as a first car it was difficult to be proud of it's looks, and let's not tlk about performance.

http://www.kotiposti.net/jarirantala/tapahtumat/vehoniemiajot_2004/110_1048.JPG

Katherine
04-17-2007, 06:32 PM
That last one of mine was a production car:



Apparently they only sold three or four a year. Wanna guess at its name?
GTO? That's a Pontiac symbol on the front.

S/V Laura Ellen
04-17-2007, 06:45 PM
For some reason some people seem to love these
http://images.consumerguideauto.howstuffworks.com/autoreview/400x266/2001-05-Pontiac-Aztek-01129291990003.jpg

I worked for AMC during this era:
http://www.amcpacer.com/images/archives/snortin.jpg

If I posted more I might come across as bing a negative person, so I'll stop there.

Nicholas Scheuer
04-17-2007, 06:54 PM
Too bad. This sort of thing will surely spread to other models from oter Countries Of National Origin, because modern youth have no G--D-mm idea in the World what a real CAR should look like.

Moby Nick.

Nicholas Scheuer
04-17-2007, 06:56 PM
True, the Pacer was a WORLD CLASS "Ugly Award Winner".

Moby Nick

S/V Laura Ellen
04-17-2007, 07:01 PM
Nick, are you saying that you like the Aztec design?

The Bigfella
04-17-2007, 07:15 PM
Don't you folks know anything?

Mohs was an automobile make built by the Mohs Seaplane Corporation of Madison, Wisconsin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madison%2C_Wisconsin) (United States (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States)). Bruce Mohs, the company founder, built limited-production automobiles on chassis built to custom specifications by the International Harvester Company (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Harvester). Automobiles by Mohs were built between 1967 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1967) and 1979 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1979). Mohs produced two models, both considered exotic.

This one was the Ostentatienne Opera Sedan. The Ostentatienne was powered by an International Harvester truck engine. Entry into the car was from the rear; solid steel side rails (designed to protect passengers during a crash) prevented doors along the vehicles sides. The Ostentatienne could be ordered customized to suit its buyer’s wishes; Ming styled oriental rugs, refrigerators and sealed beam taillights were some of the options available.

WX
04-17-2007, 07:24 PM
The civillian version of the HumVee does it for me.

The Bigfella
04-17-2007, 07:30 PM
Any SUV does it for me

Bob (oh, THAT Bob)
04-17-2007, 07:36 PM
I agree on all counts, the Fiat, screwing up the Subarus (I also wondered what the HELL they were thinking, looked better before), and S/V Laura Ellen beat me to the punch on the Pontiac Aztek. Rosie O'Donnell said she loved them on the Tonight Show with Jay Leno, and he's a serious car buff and almost fell out of his chair laughing, and told her flat out how everyone thinks they are the ugliest car around.

New there is nothing wrong with semi-ugly if it suits a purpose. Witness the first model VW Rabbit; very boxy but functional. Same with the Toyota Scion Xb; square as a sugar cube but incredibly efficient. Citroen 2CVs have a cute appeal like the VW Beetle. Some conventional-thinkers thought the original Citroen streamliner (DS21?) was ugly but most thought it was a modern as tomorrow and beautiful. The NSU RO80 was also ahead of it's time.

S/V Laura Ellen
04-17-2007, 07:36 PM
... this is one of the worst. It looks like it is made up from left over parts from a dozen or so other cars.

http://ppgmedia.canadatrader.com/PPGPhotos/NewCars/photo300/CDN/HONDA/ELEMENT/2007/5OD.jpg

Bob Roncace
04-17-2007, 07:40 PM
I was going to nominate the Pontiac Aztek, too. As strange as it may seem, S/V Laura Ellen posted a picture of its good side. It's even uglier from the front, IMHO. :rolleyes:

Bob (oh, THAT Bob)
04-17-2007, 07:40 PM
Any SUV does it for me

I always thought the Land Rover Defender 110 (long wheelbase 4 door version of the Defender 90) was beautiful because of the simple lines, and no pretention of being anything else. I think the new Chevy trucks are a step backward in styling with the bulbuous fenders and tailgate. The Chevy HHR is supposed to serve the same function as the Scion XB, but they gave it so much tumblehome (inward tapering) in the interests of styling that it reduces the cargo capacity greatly. Same issue with the low rear roof on the Dodge Magnum wagon; sporty, but dumb.

Bob (oh, THAT Bob)
04-17-2007, 07:44 PM
For some reason some people seem to love these
http://images.consumerguideauto.howstuffworks.com/autoreview/400x266/2001-05-Pontiac-Aztek-01129291990003.jpg



I think with the glass vertical tail, they thought it would look like a Maserati Khamsin.:D

S/V Laura Ellen
04-17-2007, 07:51 PM
I was going to nominate the Pontiac Aztek, too. As strange as it may seem, S/V Laura Ellen posted a picture of its good side. It's even uglier from the front, IMHO. :rolleyes:


I think with the glass vertical tail, they thought it would look like a Maserati Khamsin.:D

Bob Ronance, I wasn't aware that the Aztec had a good side!:D

Bob (oh, THAT Bob), they may have thought that, but in my mind it didn't.

Bob Roncace
04-17-2007, 08:00 PM
Bob Ronance, I wasn't aware that the Aztec had a good side!:D


You're quite right. I was thinking in relative terms. Compared to its other sides the back end is perhaps least offensive, which isn't saying much. :D

S/V Laura Ellen
04-17-2007, 08:02 PM
You're quite right. I was thinking in relative terms. Compared to its other sides the back end is perhaps least offensive, which isn't saying much. :D

The worse part to me is the aspect ratio, way too high for its width, and its ugly.

mister_moon
04-17-2007, 08:40 PM
http://files.turbosquid.com/Preview/Content_on_11_14_2005_16_33_38/chaika7.jpg9789aee7-b0ca-490c-98d1-197231a5753dLarge.jpg

Tough to beat the Soviet aesthetic...

Gulfcoastbreeze
04-17-2007, 09:31 PM
... this is one of the worst. It looks like it is made up from left over parts from a dozen or so other cars.

http://ppgmedia.canadatrader.com/PPGPhotos/NewCars/photo300/CDN/HONDA/ELEMENT/2007/5OD.jpg


As a student of autmotive design, I agree with everyone but YOU. I own a 2004 Honda S2000 and an '04 Honda Element. Let me tell you, the Elememt belongs next to the Audi TT as a high water mark of cohesive design. I don't expect or care that you'll agree unless you've lived with one.

And as much as I'm starting to laud modern American cars, whomever approved the Pontiac Aztec should not only be fired, but shot.

Metaphorically speaking, of course.

S/V Laura Ellen
04-17-2007, 09:42 PM
As a student of autmotive design, I agree with everyone but YOU. I own a 2004 Honda S2000 and an '04 Honda Element. Let me tell you, the Elememt belongs next to the Audi TT as a high water mark of cohesive design. I don't expect or care that you'll agree unless you've lived with one.

That's the great thing about design, it is a matter of personal taste. We don't have to agree. I test drove one, liked the concept, but I still don't care for the looks. It's mostly how the top of the doors blend into the roof line.
The Element isn't the worst looking car, just the worst looking SUV, in my opinion. I understand that there are others that really like the looks, more power to them, just not my personal taste.

oldsub86
04-17-2007, 09:44 PM
http://www.geocities.com/pmorthen/visitors/russ/visit12.html

oldsub86
04-17-2007, 09:47 PM
This is a rust free version of what my first car looked liike. Even as a first car it was difficult to be proud of it's looks, and let's not tlk about performance.

http://www.kotiposti.net/jarirantala/tapahtumat/vehoniemiajot_2004/110_1048.JPG


I had a 1964 Anglia - Red with a white interior. Not too peppy as the motor was less than 1 liter if I recall correctly but it did better than 50 mpg and I couldn't put $3 in the tank when it was empty. I do sort of miss those days. I put $90 in my F150 last week to fill up.

Randy

pipefitter
04-17-2007, 10:07 PM
AMC had a few but this one was disturbingly fugly.
http://www.alamo-amc.com/images/Alamo%20AMC%20Roster%20Photos/Karen%20Matador.JPG

S.V. Airlie
04-18-2007, 06:18 AM
I have figured out the reasons for having an.. umm, ugly car!

1) Who would steal it?

and

2) If someone was stupid enough to do so, the car's description on the police radio would be simple and to the point..
" look for the ugliest car you have ever seen..."
Easy to find...

martin schulz
04-18-2007, 06:22 AM
John!
I diasgree.
The Multipla has a certain history and compared with the original version the new one does look quite elegant.

http://www.2blowhards.com/archives/Fiat%20Multipla%20-%201956.jpg

mister_moon
04-18-2007, 07:04 AM
I had one of these, dreadful as it was. Mine was even worse looking due to the US spec 5mph bumpers.

http://www.autoweb-france.com/img/va/1970.jpg

P.I. Stazzer-Newt
04-18-2007, 07:11 AM
I was about to nominate the version of this with marina door-handles - but actually current production is uglier.
http://www.sportscarshire.co.uk/images/vehicle_Range_Rover_Vogue.jpg

BTW the Multipla is cute - there's one along the road covered in Mary Quant style daiseys

John B
04-18-2007, 02:17 PM
LOL. see, see. Cute eh, :D

ccmanuals
04-18-2007, 02:48 PM
I cringe when I see one of these on the road.

http://www.jeff-barr.com/wp-content/jeff_scion_xb.jpg

Don Olney
04-18-2007, 03:40 PM
Chevrolet Avalanche of Bad Taste

http://www.1stoprimshop.com/images/gallery/tsw_slugger_chevrolet_avalanche_1.jpg

Woxbox
04-18-2007, 05:55 PM
http://www.jeff-barr.com/wp-content/jeff_scion_xb.jpg

Disagree! This and the Element are both a breath of fresh air in automotive design. Very, very few automakers have the guts to do anything out of the ordinary -- these two cars are designed to a differenent esthetic than is the norm for cars, but they are both very well drawn. The biggest problem with cars these days is that they all look the same.

John B
04-18-2007, 06:04 PM
Yeah , I don't really mind the monobox style too much. Its just mixing up that styling with the michelin man so you get something that looks like a cow with a python inside it, I can't hack that.

Martin, yes , that is a bad looking car.Two wrongs don't make a right. :D
And to add, just like Subaru, the powers that be have decided and enacted that the new multipla is a much better looking machine.
I think you'd call that " cutting ones losses". ar har har.

I never owned this year Angle box
http://www.kotiposti.net/jarirantala/tapahtumat/vehoniemiajot_2004/110_1048.JPG

... the Harry Potter car ( as my kids would identify it.
I had two earlier mdels though. a Ford Popular ( the ones that roll) and a 100E with 10 hp flathead 4 and 3 speed. It wouldn't pull the skin off a rice pudding. I think that one is 107E from memory and it had the astonishing OHV motor which first appeared in the facelift 100E( 105E).
I could be wrong... I was once but.....

John B
04-18-2007, 06:28 PM
I've mentioned this before but just to prove that what we're talking about is pretty subjective:D
My son ( 11) rather shocked me with his total intolerance of any Alfa.
I think this Brera is just gorgeous, for example.
http://www.bbv-net.de/layout/showbilder/16058-alpha_brera.jpg
But he hates em. Makes a 'whats up doc' face and the st sts tst noise every time he sees any Alpha !LOL.

SamSam
04-18-2007, 07:44 PM
I cringe when I see one of these on the road.

http://www.jeff-barr.com/wp-content/jeff_scion_xb.jpg

Those things always make me think of Frankenstein's head. I also can't see a new Volkswagon Beetle without thinking it's jammed full of clowns.

mister_moon
04-18-2007, 07:55 PM
It wouldn't pull the skin off a rice pudding.

LOL. My brother once told me my anemic Ford Ranger pickup "wouldn't pull a greasy hair out of a cat's ass."

Vince Brennan
04-18-2007, 08:05 PM
http://www.jeff-barr.com/wp-content/jeff_scion_xb.jpgLets talk about this fer a minnit. It may be a "breath of fresh air" but it sure don't LOOK too aerodynamic... I may be wrong.

I've no idea what sort of actual gas mileage you could get from this thing, but perhaps someone who has one will weigh in with some specifics.

I do know that a friend in NJ who got his son an Element was highly disappointed both by the handling and the MPG... he says it's clocking less than 22 MPG for him.... hard to believe that something that small would be less than efficient, but....

I am standing by to be corrected.

Woxbox
04-18-2007, 10:18 PM
I think we're talking about looks, not practicality, effiiciency or any of that stuff. The thing about the Xb is how clean the design is. GM in particular can't ever leave well enough alone (except with the Corvette, of course) they've always got to tart up their cars with pointless ridges, holes and whatever -- and that's probably all a misguided effort to disguise what they realize are bad car lines to begin with. But other carmakers are guilty of this too -- I've never gotten used to the wedgy Celica, and the Xa, for that matter, isn't right, either. Why can't the Xa look like the Mini that it wants to be?????
http://www.lemonlawvehicle.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2006/10/scion-xa.jpg

http://www.edmunds.com/media/reviews/top10/drivers.under.25/04.mini.cooper.500.jpg

Graeme Forrest
04-19-2007, 02:29 AM
You guys have come no where near it:D. The Fiat Multipla is a thing of beauty compared to the Chrysler 300, has to be the ugliest current production car in existance. I don't know where Chrysler got their styling people from but I saw a Dodge Calibre for the first time yesterday, almost in the same class asthetically as the 300C.
John I have to agree with your son re modern Alfa's,late 1930s Alfa's were up with BMW etc in asthetics, but modern ones yuck.

S/V Laura Ellen
04-19-2007, 04:53 AM
You guys have come no where near it:D. The Fiat Multipla is a thing of beauty compared to the Chrysler 300, has to be the ugliest current production car in existance. I don't know where Chrysler got their styling people from but I saw a Dodge Calibre for the first time yesterday, almost in the same class asthetically as the 300C.
John I have to agree with your son re modern Alfa's,late 1930s Alfa's were up with BMW etc in asthetics, but modern ones yuck.

The Chrysler 300 reminds me of the Green Hornet, it looks kind of cartoonish.

martin schulz
04-19-2007, 06:02 AM
I've mentioned this before but just to prove that what we're talking about is pretty subjective:D
My son ( 11) rather shocked me with his total intolerance of any Alfa.
I think this Brera is just gorgeous, for example.
http://www.bbv-net.de/layout/showbilder/16058-alpha_brera.jpg
But he hates em. Makes a 'whats up doc' face and the st sts tst noise every time he sees any Alpha !LOL.

I don't get it.
Apart from the other companies who currently only rely on designs developed in the 50/60s (Mercedes, BMW, Ford) for their sportscar division Alfa was brave enough to come up with a new approach.

John B
04-19-2007, 06:21 AM
You don't get it, how do you think I feel.( still shocked) Even the GT tempts me and I'm an avowed RWD chappy.
I think its gorrrgeous.

Garrett Lowell
04-20-2007, 03:39 AM
I'd rather drive that Fiat than anything being manufactured by Cadillac or Rolls Royce these days.

I have to give my vote to the Jeep Compass for ugliest SUV.

There's nothing refreshing about the Honda Element. In fact, look around at the boxes these days-Hummer, Jeep Commander, Scion, Mercedes G, Nissan Armada, etc. The Element is just another ugly box.

Ugliest car for me, though, is the Eliica. http://www.3dnews.ru/_imgdata/img/2005/12/21/11396.jpg

brad9798
04-20-2007, 09:20 AM
Are you kidding, Martin ... 50s/60s? Please research before you pass judgment ...
---------------------------------------------------
And only getting 22mpg in an Element? It's called gunning it from a stop ... driving 80mph on the highway ... my neighbor gets closer to 30 ... but he is an adult!

martin schulz
04-20-2007, 09:32 AM
Are you kidding, Martin ... 50s/60s? Please research before you pass judgment ...

Why the modern Mercedes SLK is a copy/homage of the old SL and the BMW Z3 is a copy/homage of the BMW 503. And both cars/design concepts are from the 50s.

John B
04-20-2007, 02:38 PM
Garrett, LOL.
http://www.3dnews.ru/_imgdata/img/2005/12/21/11396.jpg
:D :D

Stiletto
04-20-2007, 07:16 PM
That looks like an old Citroen on thalidomide.:eek:

Garrett Lowell
04-22-2007, 07:51 AM
Garrett, LOL.
http://www.3dnews.ru/_imgdata/img/2005/12/21/11396.jpg
:D :D

All of that style and functionality for only $285,000.00!