My Woods Catamaran Build..Pictures

[chill]

I finally got my broadband connect.
So I figure to post a few pictures of my build.
I have just finished moving the major components of the cat to the marina and am going to put it all together this year.

Boat a marina after final move of cabin.
I am taking the picture. 3 of those are my boys the other is my friend and his son.
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid225/p58ac78be3cebf05e33550228103c8f70/ea3b50f4.jpg


The moving of the hull
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid225/pe8c9fa816e6f234e2cd76dc9c87c9793/ea3b50d7.jpg

The moving of the cabin
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid225/pf8260b924c6cb5e8f42dd63d447253b2/ea3b50e3.jpg



Start of cabin build
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid225/pa93eb357a3be6600bc458fae23d632dd/ea3b473f.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid225/pbcb1a520f5f80ba2064cabeb9bcdc5e8/ea3b472f.jpg

put Kids to work
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid225/p7a474f70358a5619b94b8ed8992f8624/ea3b4720.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid225/p0742f85f2dbde77c1c321552a665c29f/ea3b4713.jpg

finishing up
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid225/pb5646bb8361a4b66dd1792991f7af9bc/ea3b470a.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid225/p7734c41a7f2fcf5d706de61dd015a022/ea3b456b.jpg


Hull build

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid225/pb146d75f5b90500d72add3fe8c60f10c/ea3b3eb2.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid225/pa203f3fdd77f3bda0b13b8d0ca0db2af/ea3b3ea1.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid225/p8794b429c4a6087049cb5af5f872120d/ea3b3e93.jpg



Cant wait to starg putting it together this year.

Charlie

[chill]

Turn over hull crew
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid225/pdeb3e22e798e7669927d4e4620c7ed47/ea3b3e81.jpg

Deck over

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid225/p83d7aeb3fbd7d174d707cce174f80e01/ea3b3e77.jpg

Start next hull

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid225/pd1c528e0fc4a2b17edc291188ccfd591/ea3b3e54.jpg

Thats the last of the pictures for now.

Charlie

[chill]

L Boyle
The beam is just about 18 feet. Not this is not to trailer. Each piece can be trailer seperatly to the water to be permantely bonded together.
I have 2 beams and 2 LAR keels that I also have built to round out the whole boat.

Charlie

[chill]

Forgot to mention the dimesions

LENGTH O.A. 8.5m 28 feet
BEAM OA 18 feet
DISPL (empty) 1.8T
DISPL (loaded) 2.4T

[chill]

I have made a little progress.
Here we have positioned the cabin in prep to be bonded to forward beam.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid225/p86123bbe7b0e1c77c99833fe1cc5820e/e8e16112.jpg

Next weekend I will finish fitting it and then start bonding it to the beam.

[The Bigfella]

Excellent - nice to see more cats being built. So much nicer to have a boat with room and speed eh?

[outofthenorm]

Very cool.

Somehow these 2 pics go together:

Space shuttle and astronaut :cool:
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid225/pf8260b924c6cb5e8f42dd63d447253b2/ea3b50e3.jpghttp://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid225/p7a474f70358a5619b94b8ed8992f8624/ea3b4720.jpg

- Norm

[chill]

Thanks all. I was going to build a more traditional boat but my wife hates heeling over. So I started getting into multihulls. I do like the space and speed. But I must say a more traditional boat is better looking. But at the end of the day it is in my best interest to keep my wife happy..

[The Bigfella]

Last big cat I went out on the crew was only wearing half the 'kini

[David Tabor (sailordave)]

Charlie: wow, I never knew you were here! Garret used to live in Ashburn; now he's out in Berryville.

I myself am in the "CATOCTIN COUNTY" part of Loudoun! :p
Let me know if you need a hand sometime. What marina are you assembling everything at? PM me if you don't want to post it...

Anyways, cool boat, looking good!

[chill]

Wow Small world.

I am assembling everything at Port Kinsale. About 3 hours from Ashburn down on the northern neck.

[David Tabor (sailordave)]

Only big cat sailing I've done was on a Moorings 4700 (Leopard 47)... delivery from Annapolis to Ft. Lauderdale. 7 days. Beating our way around Cape Hatteras, etc... Was most uncomfortable. BUT then again, when we were able to reach it was kinda cool.

[chill]

David looks like you have sailed a much bigger cat than my project.

If I ever get this boat completed..it will be the biggest cat I have ever sailed.

[Tom Robb]

I'm beginning to like the faceted, stealth fighter look.:cool:

[chill]

I have made some progress over the summer.
Starting to look proper. I still have tons to do but I am getting closer.

http://lh3.ggpht.com/chill3570/SJ8fXb_itII/AAAAAAAAAHk/eJ8U0qFLXwM/s800/HPIM0440.JPG

http://lh3.ggpht.com/chill3570/SJ8fYietiZI/AAAAAAAAAH0/sYHdk8ySYX8/s800/HPIM0435.JPG




http://lh4.ggpht.com/chill3570/SJ8funzaTSI/AAAAAAAAAIc/AvXz_rfif2E/s800/HPIM0436.JPG

[Thermo]

Looking fine. You ought to be in the Bahamas by next spring!

[Jim Mathieson]

Nice looking Gypsy ,Chill!
Have you followed the couple from BC sailing a Gypsy,they just returned last week from Hawaii.
http://www.time-for-a-catamaran-adventure.com/index.html

[Mrleft8]

I've always thought of catamarans as intensly ugly, ungainly hulks, but recently I've begun to kinda sorta, begrudgingly, appreciate them...

[paladin]

Nice looking boat but it ain't agonna sail worth a darn.......now...if'n ya add sails and rudders it might work......lotsa cruising tris in the South Pacific when I was running around in the 31 tri.....damn nice work from where I sits...

Ian....which half of the bikini wuz they wearing......inquiring minds wanna know for reference...

[chill]

Jim, Yes I have been following the Gypsy that went to Hawaii. They have had a series of articals in the mag multihull. I try to glean as much info as I can from them as they have lots of experience with the boat. They even extended the boat by 3 feet at the stern. My boat will be much more bare bones and simple than theirs.

Paladin
Rudders are built. I am just waiting for my welder to return from vacation to weld up the rudder attachements. Engine comes in a week or two.
By end of fall I am hoping to have the rudders installed. Engine installed,
Head installed, Galley installed, Electrical installed, Basic inside of hulls painted.
Basically everything to run with just engine.

Then come spring/summer fit out for sailing and then hire a crane to put the thing in the water.

I am having a blast working on it. Always something new to learn. Just cant wait to finish it and go sailing. Never enough time.

[chill]

In fact my stainless steel just came in. Now to get the rudder hinges welded up

[paladin]

When you weld up the stainless hinges make sure that you fill the welds all the way, then gring them smooth.....otherwise you're gonna get crevice corrosion at the welds....the same with doublers on the chainplates..

[chill]

Thanks for that advice. I will make sure the guy welding it does that. Welding is something on my list of skills I need to pick up. Seems a very usefull thing.

[chill]

Just some additonal posts to pictures from the build in the begining.
Another builder asked for them so I figure to go ahead and add them here just in case anyone else is interested.

I have
http://picasaweb.google.com/chill3570/BoatHull#
http://picasaweb.google.com/chill3570/BoatCabin#
http://picasaweb.google.com/chill3570/Boat#
and
http://picasaweb.google.com/chill3570/LatestBoatPic#

I am still working on finishing out. I put on the rudders awhile back.
Engine is installed.
Some Nicro vents.
Airhead comosting head.
Now I am putting in the electrical system. (batter/solar cells)
Its coming along, althought slower than I would like. But I enjoy the process.
I spent most of this spring/summer with my sons fishing. Now it is boat building time.

I will try to get some newer pictures this weekend.

[chill]

Just posted the cost so far in a different thread

[2MeterTroll]

cool thanks Chill; nice work by the by.

[chill]

Thanks. I am biting at the bit to get to work and finish up.

[chill]

I have updated pictures at
http://picasaweb.google.com/chill3570/BoatOct2010#

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_CNVgkjcg_4o/TMR6kQqsRtI/AAAAAAAAAlU/3TNtLoOVFtw/s640/customfishingrod%20005.jpg

I now almost ready to put in the water.

I have the mast rigged and ready to go. Just needs to be stepped.
boat registered.
Electrical all in .
I just ordered the sails. (tanbark in color)

To get into the water I need to get a crane. I am researching that now.
Plan in March to get the boat wet.

[ccx2]

Nice job. How much does she weigh and how far to the water that will float her. I am a crane operator in Norfolk and can help you if you would like.

[chill]

she weighs 3000lbs.

She is about 20 - 30 yards to the water.
I am too wide for the travel lift so I need a crane to lift her and then use it to step the mast.

[ccx2]

Thirty yards to the water so lets set a sixty ton crane thirty ft from the water and use 14ft6in spreader bars that i carry on the crane with 20ft slings on top to the hook and thirty ft nylon slings under the boat to the spreaders, easy uncomplicated lift,then step the mast. Rental cranes usualy have a 4hr min and charge portal to portal or from the time it leaves the yard and back. A Sixty is about 175.00 per hour.

[ccx2]

And by the way if its wider than 14ft special wider spreaders would be required that would be charged for hauling to and from, but 3,000 lbs is light for a boat that width and i would not be afraid to not use spreaders and use LONG slings [40ft]from the crane hook to the boat slings and it would have very little side pressure on the hull.

[chill]

ccx2 thanks for the info.

I am planning to put in the water first thing in March so I have a little time.
How tall is a 60 ton crane ?

I could also move the boat down to the lift site but I was hoping it was easier to use the crane.
It is 20 - 30 yards but all down hill and I have to move the boat on pipes etc. Takes a long time.
I will measure straight line vs down the road distance next time I am down at the marina to make sure.

Also if you want you can send me a private message and we can continue the discussion that way.

[MiddleAgesMan]

Re: the crane and spreader bars--

Seems to me spreaders to lift a catamaran would need to be below the hull, not above it as is typical. Assuming the lifting straps run down and across the bottom then up, the stress of the lift will try to pull the bottoms of the hulls together. I'm not saying that sort of lift would necessarily break something I'm just saying I would be more comfortable if there was something counteracting the force being exerted a goodly distance below the cross rails or whatever those things are called. Ideally, it seems a cat needs four slings, two for each hull.

[ccx2]

No need to move the boat, a 60 ton has 110ft of power boom and a boat that light could be handled on the jib at that radius so with the jib you would have but wouldnt need 145ft of boom. MiddleagesMan has a good point that i didnt think about ,and thinking about it that would be a safer way to go with a cat i suppose but looking at her profile you would have to cut some holes in her deck for the slings to pass up, dont want to do that.The few cats ive lifted were basketed around the whole hull and had no problems but thats a very good point i will consider in any future cat lifts.I looked at the pics of your boat again and if it was wider that the spreaders i carry i would not worry if long slings were used because you boat is so light. YOU would feel better with spreaders so you should use them as the responsibility is yours in the long run unless you hire insured riggers to take the response for the lift.

[chill]

I have seen at least 1 set of pictures of a woods gypsy cat being lifted with lift straps under the boat as you describe.
Also the designer mentioned that is how most of the cats are put into the water as well.
So I am not too worried. But I will think on it.

Here is a link to an example of the same cat as mine being lifted.
http://www.themultihull.com/woods/images/ra_launching.jpg

Actually looking back at the thread I don't think I gave the boat length and width.
It is 28 feet long and just under 18 feet wide at 3000 lbs.

So ccx2 how do I go about arranging this ?

[donald branscom]

Most of the photos are just blue question marks.
Did you optimize them for the web or just load 3MB photos directly to this forum??
They should be 40K NOT 3 MB.each.

I only see 4 photos.

Must be clogging up the system.

[BBSebens]

Most of the posts are old. he probably deleted the pictures from whatever host he is using.

A nice looking Cat is a rarity to my eyes. Looks good!

[Woxbox]

Couldn't one of those big forklifts they use at rack storage boatyards pick that up under the deck and carry it down to the water? Would be a whole lot cheaper than a big crane.

[ccx2]

Are we allowed to mention company names on here, who we work for?

[chill]

ccx2 why dont you just send me and email at chill3570@gmail.com

woxbox
I considered those big fork lifts. The only issue I saw was when I had to put it in the water. It has to extend out over a bulkhead and then down to the water.
I am concerned that with the width of the boat and then how far out I have to go to get it in the water and then how far down the water is. Seemed risky.

Pictures.
I dont' know what happened to the old pictures in the thread. They are still out there on google.
You can see all the build pictures here

http://picasaweb.google.com/chill3570

Charlie

[Woxbox]

Charlie -- Jobs like this seem big and tricky to those of us who aren't involved, but to an experienced operator they're usually a piece of cake. Those boatyard forklifts are designed to lower boats off bulkheads. The forks are unique in that they can go lower than the wheels on the lift. The real limiting factor is how much the boat weighs, and how far the center of gravity would be from the lift. But they launching some pretty big boats this way now.

[Paul Montgomery]

This would be a really good opportunity to go Egyptian. Get a good collection of rollers & have a few friends over !

[mamba]

Chill the boat looks great just hope my Janus 22 will look that good , to bad we are so far away would like to help on the launch..

[chill]

"Those boatyard forklifts are designed to lower boats off bulkheads"

I have not seen one of these. I was thinking of those construction forklifts with the big arm like a backhoe. Can reach odd spots.

"This would be a really good opportunity to go Egyptian. Get a good collection of rollers"

I moved the boat from spot to spot in the marina that way. But dropping it off a dock is a no go. There is just no place to roll it into the water. Otherwise I would do just that.

[Woxbox]

Like this:

http://www.keansmarina.com/_images/boatonlift.jpg

[chill]

ok that is what I thought. Problem is I need to drop the boat about 4-6 feet below the floor in that picture and about 10 feet in front of the wheels . Basically over a dock. I don' see how that fork lift would do something like that.

[ccx2]

IF your yard doesnt have a launch/retrieve lift its a moot point, but they work as described but you would need a bulkhead built for that purpose not a pier or sod bank.

[chill]

yup that is why I need the crane.

[ccx2]

Well dang, my company is in Norfolk and i think thats a long way from Ashburn so it would cost you alot in travel time, its two hours to Richmond, if youy can indeed move the boat to the edge of the water it would reduce the radius of the lift and if the distance was say forty ft from the center pin of the crane ti the center of the lift in the water you could get by with a 33 ton crane and save yourself some money if you want . If you are interested you should e-mail me.

[Woxbox]

3,000 pounds just isn't that much. I'm thinking there's got to be an easy and cheap way to move that boat. Of course a 33-ton crane can do it, but that's using a sledgehammer to drive tack, no? What's the distance between the insides of the hulls? Couldn't you back a boat trailer in there, set some jacks or boat stands on the trailer and then lift it just clear of the ground so you could drive it over to the water. Did you mention there is a lift at the yard?

[chill]

ccx
The boat is not in Ashburn. It is at Port Kinsale which is in the Northern Neck of VA near the mouth of the Potomac.

WoxBox.
Well I can roll the boat to the edge of the water. Problem is getting it into the water.
The boat is 18 feet wide.Distance between hulls inside is about 12 feet.
Issue is still lifting it over a doc down say 4 feet to water.

I am still brainstorming on solutions. So all suggestions are welcome.

ccx I will send you a mail.

[chill]

ccx just sent you a mail.
My email is chill3570@gmail.com just in case the woodenboat mail thing dont work.