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mike hanyi
03-16-2007, 09:49 PM
Planks are flying up the side of the whitehall, sooner or later I will get back to the oarlock question. I just love the whitehallrow.com oarlocks but the customer is a little questionable on dishing out 600 bucks for 2 sets of them. Shaw & Tenney's also look good but again the price.

Has anyone made some swing-out, fold-out, outriggers from wood or wood and metal? I could say im looking for the do it yourself approach.
I am equipped with a full welding shop,a forge,and just to most mindblowing woodshop you can imagine.(newly equipped school with government funding)

I have thoughts of something pivoting about a foot in front of the pin bolted to the inwale, or something flipping out on top.

anyone else solved this challange with good astetics?

mike

Thorne
03-17-2007, 07:25 AM
Try a search of this forum -- the topic comes up frequently. I've got some photos of simple bent ply ones used on some of the TSCA pulling boats out here.

http://www.luckhardt.com/oar-outrigger1.jpg http://www.luckhardt.com/oar-outrigger2.jpg


Photos of the boats at Lake Natoma -

http://www.luckhardt.com/natoma14.jpg http://www.luckhardt.com/natoma18.jpg

mike hanyi
03-17-2007, 08:53 AM
Not a bad solution, its so simple I forgot to turn on my simple reasoning. I was thinking about some swing out types but the laminated ones might just do the trick-
One day Thorne I will have to show you pics of my Herreshoff Riviera designed in 1874. One hell-of-a sail and oar boat that Nat had an equally interesting adventure.

RonW
03-17-2007, 11:16 AM
Think I missed something, as I see it from your whitehall site the outriggers are $387. u.s. dollars.
But if you can do metal work, why not just use a couple short pieces of 1/2 inch rod, and bend and make a wishbone shape, that would mount to the side of the boat with regular 1/2 inch sockets, 2 for each side and not worry about the folding feature.

mike hanyi
03-17-2007, 01:41 PM
the point missed that I did not write is I want them removable so the boat can come alongside, our club has a dock only for smallcraft and the idea of the outriggers bumping into the neighbors varnish is unspeakable.
mike

Clinton B Chase
03-17-2007, 07:17 PM
http://www.shawandtenney.com/catalog/detail.php?ID=6499&Category=Marine_Hardware&pageNum_cart=/catalog/index.php

Clint

Ben Fuller
03-17-2007, 08:58 PM
Mike,

Pete Culler made some nice ones pretty much by bending and brazing sheet stock. They were made for Quitsa Pilot. If you have a copy or can get a copy of Burke's book they are on p.7. I have no idea where the photos I took that in that book are located. Anyway, think a C or U shape of bronze flat stock with the socket at the left hand edge of the C curve. The legs are rolled to make a hinge with some plates that fasten to the oarlock pad. Nice think about these is that when they are folded in, there is another socket the oar lock pad you can use.

But if you client objects to price of the fabricated ones: these were originally 5 dollar parts on a 100 dollar boat. If you are getting 5000 for the boat 250 bucks would be the correct proportion. I suspect that you can't make them for that. And you should be getting more than 5000 USD for the whitehall.

mike hanyi
03-18-2007, 01:24 AM
Ben,

well (cough cough) the price of the boat is well below that due to this being a school project, and the client is the local sailmaker who has for years gave away his work for almost cost of the sailcloth. He is our sailmaker and I have never seen an honest sailmaker with a fancy car!
Us poor uns need to take care of each other!

the roled stock ones you describe sound like the whitehallrow types, they are very pretty but for 2 pairs a expencive, I think I will try something in oak and metal strap rivited together.

mike

Ben Fuller
03-18-2007, 06:53 AM
If you are giving away the boat that's different. The whitehall row types are similar in principle. I was just doing a reality check. What might be elegant would be some C's of plywood or laminate wrapped in carbon skins, then some off the shelf hinges. Pretty simple. Clean. Gets rid of the cross grain issues.