Al Gore For President 08 !

[Leon m]

Because he's awesome !

http://www.draftgore.com/

He's eloquent, passionate, relentless, undaunted. The first political figure to oppose the Iraq war, Al Gore is also the lead champion in the fight against global warming, a passionate defender of our Constitution, and an unyielding voice against the Bush Administration's abuse of power.

Given his unmatched experience and leadership on issues of moral imperative, Gore is increasingly seen as Democrats' best bet to win back the White House.

[stumpbumper]

I second it!!

[Nanoose]

I second it!!

Me too! Oh, wait....wrong country!.....but I still agree!

[Leon m]

Jimmy Carter Endorses Gore

Feb. 23 -- In an ABC interview with former President Jimmy Carter set to air on Sunday's "This Week", Carter lavished praise on his favorite Democrat. "If Al should decide to run," he said, "I would support Al Gore."

What more do ya need to know.

[stumpbumper]

Me too! Oh, wait....wrong country!.....but I still agree!

There may be a loophole in the Patriot Act that allows y'all to vote here. Hell, let's check it out?:confused: :) :D

[Norman Bernstein]

You gotta be kiddin'.....

Gore is a fine guy...and one hell of an awful political candidate. He can't be 're-treaded'; he needs to do what he's doing now, and doing very well!

[Leon m]

You gotta be kiddin'.....



Dead serious !

[stumpbumper]

You gotta be kiddin'.....

Gore is a fine guy...and one hell of an awful political candidate. He can't be 're-treaded'; he needs to do what he's doing now, and doing very well!

Nixon was "retreaded", unfortunately.

[stumpbumper]

After all, Gore won the last time.

[Leon m]

Al Gore Nominated for the 2007 Nobel Peace Prize

Al Gore has been nominated for the 2007 Nobel Peace Prize for his wide-reaching efforts to draw attention to the dangers of global warming. "A prerequisite for winning the Nobel Peace Prize is making a difference, and Al Gore has made a difference," said Norwegian Member of Parliament Boerge Brende.

[Norman Bernstein]

Dead serious !

You may be 'dead serious'... but running Gore as a candidate would make the Democrats a 'dead duck' in the election.

Repeat after me: Obama in '08!

[Rick Starr]

His last several publicity shots have him looking like a Bosnian Warlord.

[John of Phoenix]

It’s hard to imagine this is the same Al Gore that we saw in 2000. What an amazing transition!

[Donn]

It’s hard to imagine this is the same Al Gore that we saw in 2000. What an amazing transition!

Yeah, he's twice the man now.

How about Kerry for VP?

[Leon m]

Repeat after me: Obama in '08!

Sorry won't happen...we still havn't worked out that racism thing just yet...plus he's too green, he'll get eaten alive.

[Donn]

Sorry won't happen...we still havn't worked out that racism thing just yet...plus he's too green, he'll get eaten alive.

Well, which is it? Too black or too green?

[Norman Bernstein]

Sorry won't happen...we still havn't worked out that racism thing just yet...plus he's too green, he'll get eaten alive.

Actually, I think the 'racism' thing has gone away.... the 'sexism' thing is still around, though.

He's not too green... he's no greener than Dubya was in 2000... and he can speak in complete, intelligble sentences!

[skuthorp]

Why would Gore bother with that rigged ballot for a second time? Especially when he's likely to be more effective in the long run doing what he's doing. People deserve the govt's they elect but not the ones that get foisted on them by crooked practices. And that applies to any side I suspect.

[Leon m]

Yeah, he's twice the man now.

How about Kerry for VP?

Anything is a hell of a lot better than what we have now...I'd even settle for Al Frankin over Chainy.

[Rick Starr]

Well, which is it? Too black or too green?

Now that, right there, is funny.

[stumpbumper]

It’s hard to imagine this is the same Al Gore that we saw in 2000. What an amazing transition!

He looks the same to me, a little chunkier. Alot of people were so enamoured by Bush they refused to look at him. He has always championed environmental issues. He has loosened up and isn't so stiff, if that's what you mean.

Norman, Obama is good, but I think Gore may have a better chance than any of the contenders. Everyone who voted for him before will probably be inclined to do so again, plus disenchanted Bush supporters.

Lynn

[Leon m]

He's not too green... he's no greener than Dubya was in 2000...

Case in point...

[John B]

Look, I don't participate in political stuff but I'm curious. Objective you might say.I place no value judgement or slant on this question.

Is there really any likelyhood at all that Gore would run for President again?

[Uncle Duke]

Gore would be a great candidate, IMHO.
1) A smart guy, whose was previously knocked for perhaps being too 'thoughful'.
2) Got plenty of votes the first time around, even though he ran a pretty weak campaign, and hasn't done anything since then to lose the support of the democratic base.
3) He's been out of the day-to-day politics just long enough that he no longer has the 'stink' of being a 'politician'. (Heck, even Nixon was eventually referred to as an 'elder statesman'.)

At this point, I'd vote for him - and I'm very heartened that he has carefully not ruled out running. There's a lot of time between now and when actual campaign has to start - plenty of time to let other candidates piss people off. All we need is Ralph Nader to NOT muddy the waters.

[John Bell]

Tipper won't stand the cut in pay. She'll put Al in a "Lock Box" before any draft movement gains real traction. ;)

[Leon m]

once again the number is http://www.draftgore.com/,operators are standing by (sign the petition ).

[stumpbumper]

Is there really any likelyhood at all that Gore would run for President again?

Yes, once a candidate always a candidate. It's in his bloodlines. If he thinks he has a chance, he'll go for it.

[Donn]

Is there really any likelyhood at all that Gore would run for President again?

I'd say possible before likely. After all, Gore's ox is still living.

[TomF]

Possible before likely, I agree. He'd only come in as a saviour, if the other Dem contenders self destruct.

FWIW, he's got a lot of influence right now, doing what he's doing. That would largely go "poof" if he tried for the nomination, and missed it. Or then tried for the Presidency, and once more ended up outside the Oval Office.

If he's canny, he'll take a fairly sure thing, or nothing.

[George.]

I tell ya, not until Miami sinks, if he has any brains...

[TimH]

Go Gore!!

[Leon m]

I tell ya, not until Miami sinks, if he has any brains...

Put down the crack pipe , and just walk away. ;)

[Rick Starr]

Possible but not likely. The campaign trail does not seem to suit him. Whatever one might think of him, he is not at his best while campaigning and many of those who might have swung to the center were turned off by his last showing. I suppose I would be one of those.

Besides most Americans can't wait to see what's next from the inventor of both the internet and global warming.

[George.]

I am serious.

If he runs now, maybe he can be president of the US, and preside over the Iraq defeat.

If he waits till a significant ice sheet collapses, he can be dictator of the world.

[Leon m]

Possible but not likely. The campaign trail does not seem to suit him. Whatever one might think of him, he is not at his best while campaigning and many of those who might have swung to the center were turned off by his last showing. I suppose I would be one of those.

Besides most Americans can't wait to see what's next from the inventor of both the internet and global warming.

That was then, this is now. He's ready.

[John B]

Thanks guys.

[TomF]

I am serious.

If he runs now, maybe he can be president of the US, and preside over the Iraq defeat.

If he waits till a significant ice sheet collapses, he can be dictator of the world.Maybe so. Greenland anyone?

Besides which. Who in their right minds would want to be in the White House to have to clean up the Iraq thing? The Dems would do well to not get elected in '08, so they won't get soiled by that debacle.

[stumpbumper]

Besides most Americans can't wait to see what's next from the inventor of both the internet and global warming.

And the inspiration for Eric Segal's Love Story. How can he lose?

[TimH]

He got the global warming message out. Now its time for him to get back what should have been his. He deserves it...and so do we.
This country needs somebody like him. He may be the only one who could bring us out of this downward spiral.
Not too many people can relate to Obama or Clinton, but Gore? Hell yea!
I sent that link to everyone I could think of.

[John of Phoenix]

Who in their right minds would want to be in the White House to have to clean up the Iraq thing? The Dems would do well to not get elected in '08, so they won't get soiled by that debacle

Ain't that the truth. McCain deserves it if he gets it. With Pat Robertson as VP! :D

[George.]

And Dick back as SOD

[TimH]

In an interview on NPR a few weeks ago he said he wasnt interested in running in '08
But ya never know.
I would want to have to clean up after the nucular man

And I think that "invented the internet" comment was tongue-in-cheek

[TimH]

I just ordered a bumber sticker :-)
http://www.draftgore.com/contribute.htm

[TimH]

Tipper won't stand the cut in pay. She'll put Al in a "Lock Box" before any draft movement gains real traction. ;)


Tipper Gore: If He Runs, I'll Support Him (http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=2069724&page=1)
http://www.draftgore.com/tipper_abc.jpg"I think he'd be a fantastic president. He already got a majority of votes of people in this country once."
-- Tipper Gore on Good Morning America, June 13, 2006

[JimD]

Gore is all washed up. Just like Winston Churchill was all washed up in the 1930s and Canada's Jean Chretien was all washed up in the 1980s and Nicaragua's Daniel Ortega was all washed up in the '90s. You may argue that those three names don't belong in the same sentence but the point is there are many examples of political Phoenixes that rose to fly again when the time was right. If I were American I would vote for Gore before Hillary or Obama.

[LeeG]

He shouldn't run. We don't need more king surrogates. Having people out of office leading is needed. If enough people lead the leaders will follow.

Cheneys vice presidency, or Kerrys nomination, should be a warning that the vetting process the voters use is flawed.

[stumpbumper]

Gore is all washed up. Just like Winston Churchill was all washed up in the 1930s and Canada's Jean Chretien was all washed up in the 1980s and Nicaragua's Daniel Ortega was all washed up in the '90s. You may argue that those three names don't belong in the same sentence but the point is there are many examples of political Phoenixes that rose to fly again when the time was right. If I were American I would vote for Gore before Hillary or Obama.

Nixon was all washed up in 1962 after losing in California. "You won't have Tricky Dick to kick around any more".

It can happen.

[S/V Laura Ellen]

There may be a loophole in the Patriot Act that allows y'all to vote here. Hell, let's check it out?:confused: :) :D

In some states all you need is a hunting license to prove your right to vote. I'm sure that anyone that really wanted to vote could find a way to cast a ballot (except some of the visible minorities of course).:D

[Donn]

..to clean up after the nucular man




I just ordered a bumber sticker..

It'll look really nucular on your bumber, but if you bumb into something, it might get scratched.

[Keith Wilson]

. . . it might get scratchedAnd that would be a bumber, for sure.

[Donn]

Totally!

[TimH]

Thats why I ordered 3 :D

http://www.draftgore.com/bsticker.jpg

nothing worse than a scratched bumber sticker...;)

[TimH]

And the nucular man things wasnt a typo either :-)

[skuthorp]

As has been already expressed, why would Gore want any part of it. It's a poisoned chalice and I have the feeling the next Admin will wear all the blame no matter who wins. A like-minded administration is likely to continue on the present disastrous course, captive of the same factions and unable to eat crow and admit an error. An error that has cost thousands of lives and probably blighted US foreign relations for a century. Maybe longer, the muslim factions only common ground now is dislike of the US.
Not a good choice in a country whose electoral practices are distinctly naff and prone to manipulation.

[LeeG]

yep, the next president coming would be like Carter following Nixon, they're screwed.

[TimH]

Nobody is gonna "win" its a matter of withdrawing gracefully and getting back to the important matters at home.

[Leon m]

Everybody knows that the Iraq mess is George Bushes fault. It was a stupid idea from the get go, and there is no easy way out. Anybody who is stupid enough to blame the outcome of something that was a bad idea from the start on the next president ...well...they already voted for Bush,and wouldn't vote democrat anyway.;)

[Bob Adams]

Screw it, I'm voting for Robin Williams.

[Nicholas Carey]

It’s hard to imagine this is the same Al Gore that we saw in 2000. What an amazing transition!I think that's because he doesn't have the political consultants and strategists managing everything he says and how he says it according to the whims of the focus groups.

I suspect Gore would make a better candidate without the hired guns in tow.

[Nicholas Carey]

Actually, I think the 'racism' thing has gone away.... the 'sexism' thing is still around, though.

He's not too green... he's no greener than Dubya was in 2000... and he can speak in complete, intelligble sentences!A recent Gallup poll suggests that people are as likely to vote for a black candidate as they are a Catholic (95% would vote for a Catholice, 94% would vote for someone who's black), and less likely to vote for a female candidate (88%).

And more likely to vote for a gay candidate (55%) than an atheist (45%).

Here's the question that Gallup asked (a variant of one they first asked in 1937):
Between now and the 2008 political conventions, there will be discussion about the qualifications of presidential candidates -- their education, age, religion, race, and so on. If your party nominated a generally well-qualified person for president who happened to be <your-descriptor-here>, would you vote for that person?Here's the Gallup press release (http://www.galluppoll.com/content/?ci=26611) talking about the poll results.

[Nicholas Carey]

Look, I don't participate in political stuff but I'm curious. Objective you might say."Fair and Balanced"? :D
I place no value judgement or slant on this question.

Is there really any likelyhood at all that Gore would run for President again?I have a hard time believing that he's just given up on being president. He's a pretty young guy -- he turns 59 at the end of next month. I think he'll wait until the time is better, 2012 or 2016.

[Bob Smalser]

...Al Gore is also the lead champion in the fight against global warming, a passionate defender of our Constitution, and an unyielding voice against the Bush Administration's abuse of power.

Given his unmatched experience and leadership on issues of moral imperative, Gore is increasingly seen as Democrats' best bet to win back the White House.

Too much of a 3-dollar bill phony in him. This WSJ comparison between Bush and Gore on the energy waste in their personal lifestyles is an absolute hoot.




"An Inconvenient Truth," Al Gore's global-warming horror flick, picked up an Oscar the other night for Best Documentary. Yesterday the Tennessee Center for Policy Research issued an inconvenient report on Gore's own personal "carbon footprint." The center obtained utility records from Gore's mansion "located in the posh Belle Meade area of Nashville":

The average household in America consumes 10,656 kilowatt-hours (kWh) per year, according to the Department of Energy. In 2006, Gore devoured nearly 221,000 kWh--more than 20 times the national average.

Last August alone, Gore burned through 22,619 kWh--guzzling more than twice the electricity in one month than an average American family uses in an entire year. As a result of his energy consumption, Gore's average monthly electric bill topped $1,359.

Since the release of An Inconvenient Truth, Gore's energy consumption has increased from an average of 16,200 kWh per month in 2005, to 18,400 kWh per month in 2006.

Gore's extravagant energy use does not stop at his electric bill. Natural gas bills for Gore's mansion and guest house averaged $1,080 per month last year.

The Tennessean reports, however, that Gore is buying his indulgences:

Gore purchased 108 blocks of "green power" for each of the past three months, according to a summary of the bills.

That's a total of $432 a month Gore paid extra for solar or other renewable energy sources. . . .

"Every family has a different carbon footprint," said Kalee Krider, a spokeswoman for Gore. The Gores' 10,000-square-foot house on Lynnwood Boulevard has a large one.

The Green Power Switch program isn't all that Gore and his wife, Tipper, are doing, Krider said.

They use compact fluorescent light bulbs and are in the midst of a renovation project that includes having solar panels installed on their home to reduce fossil fuel consumption, she said.

Their car? A Lexis hybrid SUV.

"They, of course, also do the carbon emissions offset," she said.

That means figuring out how much carbon is emitted from home power use, and vehicle and plane travel, then paying for projects that will offset that with use of renewable energy, such as solar power.

Not every wealthy politician lives in a vast private mansion, and TreeHugger.com reports on one who lives more simply:

Is it possible that George Bush is a secret Green? Evidently his Crawford Winter White House has 25,000 gallons of rainwater storage, gray water collection from sinks and showers for irrigation, passive solar, geothermal heating and cooling. "By marketplace standards, the house is startlingly small," says David Heymann, the architect of the 4,000-square-foot home. "Clients of similar ilk are building 16-to-20,000-square-foot houses." Furthermore for thermal mass the walls are clad in "discards of a local stone called Leuders limestone, which is quarried in the area. The 12-to-18-inch-thick stone has a mix of colors on the top and bottom, with a cream- colored center that most people want. "They cut the top and bottom of it off because nobody really wants it," Heymann says. "So we bought all this throwaway stone. It's fabulous. It's got great color and it is relatively inexpensive."

Of course we don't begrudge Gore his life of luxury--only his sanctimonious insistence that the rest of us sacrifice our comforts to the dubious god of global warming. And there's no reason he couldn't live in a smaller house and throw his money at solar power.

The New York Post, meanwhile, reports that some celebrities are getting their global-warming indulgences free:

Hollywood's wealthy liberals can now avoid any guilt they might feel for consuming so much non-renewable fossil fuel in their private jets, their SUVs, and their multiple air-conditioned mansions. This year's Oscar goodie bag contained gift certificates representing 100,000 pounds of greenhouse gas reductions from TerraPass, which describes itself as a "carbon offset retailer."

The 100,000 pounds "are enough to balance out an average year in the life of an Academy Award presenter," a press release from TerraPass asserts. "For example, 100,000 pounds is the total amount of carbon dioxide created by 20,000 miles of driving, 40,000 miles on commercial airlines, 20 hours in a private jet and a large house in Los Angeles.

The greenhouse gas reductions will be accomplished through TerraPass' [program] of verified wind energy, cow power [collecting methane from manure] and efficiency projects." Voila, guilt-free consumption!

Come to think of it, Gore was at the Oscars, so he probably got one of those "goodie bags" too.

Then there's this, from the New York Times:

Goldman Sachs has been one of the most aggressive firms on Wall Street about taking action on climate change; the company sends its bankers home at night in hybrid limousines.

Literal limousine liberals!

[PeterSibley]

Double posting Bob ?
(from the Inconvenient Truth thread )
Bob ...stop laughing and THINK for a minute .It doesn't matter ,from a Global Warming /CO2 perspective how much energy you burn ....it's were it comes from ,how it's generated .If that doesn't make sense ...do some reading .

[Bob Smalser]

Double posting Bob ?
(from the Inconvenient Truth thread )
Bob ...stop laughing and THINK for a minute .It doesn't matter ,from a Global Warming /CO2 perspective how much energy you burn ....it's were it comes from ,how it's generated .If that doesn't make sense ...do some reading .



Conspicuous, wasteful consumption as Green. That's silly. Buckingham frigging Palace uses less energy.

The "old house" excuse is ridiculous. That's why God made insulation and glazing contractors who retrofit.