What kind of CRAP "music" is this...?

[David Tabor (sailordave)]

Son is listening to this crappy rap stuff.

Here is an example

I wanna luv you by Akon


see you windin’ and grindin’ up on the floor
i know you see me lookin' at you and you already know
i wanna {love} you, you already know
i wanna {love} you, you already know


money in the air as mo’ fell
grab you by your coattail, take you to the motel, ho sale
don’t tell, wont tell, baby say “i don’t talk, dogg unless you told on me” - oh well
take a picture wit me, what the flick gon’ do
baby stick to me and i’ma stick on you
if you pick me then i’ma pick on you
d-o-double g and i’m here to put this d*** on you
i'm stuck on p**** and your’s is right
rip ridin’ the poles and them doors is tight
and i’ma get me a shot ‘fo the end of the night
cuz p**** is p**** and baby you’re p**** for life

:mad: :mad:

And yes the Luv in Parentheses is the F word...
And he can't understand why I don't want him playing that music in the house...

[WX]

never did like Rap, but then I'm an old phart. I feel the same way about baggy shorts with the crutch down around the kneecaps and boxer shorts hanging out the top.

[ishmael]

Don't get me started.

There is a pendulum swing in open cultures, and the pendulum is swinging against this garbage.

People have made a whore monger's wage off it for twenty years. It's the ugliest vomit ever produced by the American music industry. Anti-woman, pro-idiot-violence. It is pure garbage that should never have seen the light of day. The only reason it has, just as the only reason other violence has, is because of greed. There, is that clear enough?

The encouraging signs I see are that blacks are beginning to genuinely question this trash.

PBS the other night, showed a film made by a black man that looked at just what this is about. Very good self-examination.

[glenallen]

Slap him upside the head once for all of us.
If he can't figure out why you slapped him, slap him up the other side.
That language does not work around the house.

[TomF]

I'll echo everything said so far.

On top of that, rap's not music. It has rhythm, but no melody.

[WX]

Glenallen, that reminds me of a saying I read a while back, if you see a Hungarian, kick him, he'll know why.
No offense intended to any Hungarians here :D

[High C]

Slap him upside the head once for all of us...

Yep!

[Leon m]

My daughter tried getting an objectionable CD by me once when she was a teen. I broke it in half, gave her $15 and told her to go buy something decent.

[Leon m]

Now these boys knew how to entertain...whatever happened to being classy?
http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/GLO/MUS00061~Rat-Pack-Bar-Scene-Posters.jpg

[Domesticated_Mr. Know It All]

I try to keep an open mind when it comes to music.
No matter how hard I try, it slams shut on most rap music.
It offends me.

[Hwyl]

I sort of enjoy disliking some of my kids music. Much as my parents did mine. There is a huge overlap in our tastes, but I'd hate it if they were totally into 70's rock as some kids seem to be.

Having said that, I had a wonderful moment, a couple of years ago when "Big Yellow Taxi" by the Counting Crows, came on the radio. My daughter--14 or 15 at the time, was astounded to hear me join in with her singing along. "How do you know the words,Dad"?

I went home, put on the tape of the Isle of Wight concert with Joni Mitchell singing the song, and pointed to myself in the audience (for some reason the camera picked me out). I got at least 5 minutes of respect

[Bob Adams]

Not playing this garbage is one major reason I don't take many DJ bookings. I simply won't play it, money be damned.

PS, I think Joni did it better!

[ishmael]

Joni, in her prime, was a rare flower. I love her early middle stuff.

Re rap. It does have some good qualities. It's a poetic form, not really music, and some of it isn't the gangsta crap that's promoted so heavily. Some of it I respect. But you have to look beyond the promotion, because the vast majority of it is really terrible stuff. It's not doing any of us any good, and is genuinely harmful to community. Not just black community, all community.

That film I mentioned confronted some big name. His response was, "Look around man, violence is everywhere." He was correct. They showed clips of recent popular films, made by white guys sitting in offices in Hooeywood. We all need to clean house.

Violence or sex in the service of genuine plot are fine with me. But way too much of it is pornography of the soul, that has no basis in social commentary or plot. Sure, we look. It's purient. By nature we look at purient. We get some ya ya out of it. But is it what we want to pump into the mass mind?

[Mrleft8]

"Why don't we do it in the road?..... Why don't we do it in the road?..... Why don't we do it in the road?..... No one will be watching us.....Why don't we do it in the road?....."
Paul McArtney/ John Lennon.

[peb]

I'll echo everything said so far.

On top of that, rap's not music. It has rhythm, but no melody.

I will second this. I have always thought it was crap. It is unfortunate how far black music has degenerated. Go back and listen to Gladys Knight and the Pips sing "Midnight train to Georgia" and it becomes quite apparent.

[Domesticated_Mr. Know It All]

You got us there Lefty!
My Dad hated that song.
At the time I thought it was the greatest song I'd ever heard.
He didn't much care for those long haired Beatles neither.
I seem to remember him threatning me with an "ass beating" if I played it, "one more time".
Now some good polka music brightened him up a bit.



P.S. Hey Peb, Misty Blue still brings tears to my eyes.

[jack grebe]

He is in a rebelious faze right now. the more you condemn that type of music and try to force him away from it, the deeper he will dive into. Choose your battles, you don't need total victory to win the war.

[elf]

Just out of curiosity try getting him to talk with you about what the words mean. See if he even understands what the stuff is saying.

[glenallen]

Just out of curiosity try getting him to talk with you about what the words mean. See if he even understands what the stuff is saying.

If he does not know what those words mean, slap him upside the head! lol

[Domesticated_Mr. Know It All]

Now Now, all that head slappin is probably why you Texan's talk so funny.
My Dad had it figured out.
No Power, no music.
It's simple.
Pull the plug or flip the breaker.
Remind him who pays the electric bill.

[PatCox]

The Rat Pack surely had their orgies with their hookers. They smoked pot and had their pill addictions too. Classy apparently being something associated with what you say and the image you project, as opposed to your behavior.

Every generation cries O tempore, O mores!.

That said, I do believe that there is a value to decorum, decency, and gentility in public speech and public art. Rap is absolutely BAD and celebrates a terrible value system.

Nevertheless, there's no grounds to feel that the reality of the moral behavior of people is somehow declining. It has always been thus, boys have always had but one obsession, sex, and as shocking as it seems, so have women. Prostitution is probably less prevalent than in the past. Sex is what we do.

[Leon m]

The Rat Pack surely had their orgies with their hookers. They smoked pot and had their pill addictions too. Classy apparently being something associated with what you say and the image you project, as opposed to your behavior.

.

If this is even true (I doubt they had to pay for sex), at least they had enough class to leave it out of their music.

[High C]

..It is unfortunate how far black music has degenerated. Go back and listen to Gladys Knight and the Pips sing "Midnight train to Georgia" and it becomes quite apparent.

I'll second that. Early in my music career I had the good fortune to play in the bands of Gladys, the Temptations, and other soul/Motown stars. :cool: It breaks my heart to compare that era to the present. It was such a rich and creative art form, so culturally positive, and now replaced almost entirely with,.....well, you know. :( :(

[PatCox]

Amen, HighC; I thought Michael Jackson and Prince were terrible back in the 80s, but they were at least the last descendants of Motown and made decent R&B music. After them, with Rap, I am sick at what has happened to what was once the greatest music scene America ever spawned. What happened?

The four tops are my favorites, I don't know anything about music, but they sang like men, all the male singers now sound like girls, if they're not just rapping thugs.

[Ron Williamson]

It's just like telling them not to smoke.
They'll do it to piss you off, even if they hate it.
The Stones have been used against parents forever.
R

[hansp77]

people of age venting about the musical tastes of people of youth...:rolleyes:
hardly a new thing.
For someone like me, sort of caught in the middle, I can undersand both sides of the argument. Rap aint really my thing, but some of it has both musical and cultural value IMO.
Mostly, as the majority of your own parents criticisms no doubt claimed, the larger mainstream of popular music, whatever it be at the time, is rubbish.
However, it should not need to be said that amongst the rubbish, there are always a few timeless gems- whether or not the people of age ever get it.
Did your parents ever get the Stones, or Joni? If they didn't, does this mean that they are rubbish too?

[ishmael]

There's some truth in that hansp, but listen to the lyrics of gangsta rap and get back to me. It's truly ugly, in a way Elvis's hips never were. Women are mere objects, and there is no reflection on pulling out the nine and gunning down the brother. Those images are considered de rigeur for masculinity in that culture.

It's a pestilence, not a simple matter of generational taste.

[cs]

Although I haven't heard this song and the words don't appear to be anything I would listen too, I do have to say that Akon has skills.

I don't like rap music, but than again there is some rap that I like, as long as it is done right.

Okay back to Radio Margaritville.

Chad

[geeman]

One problem is a lot tho not all of these rap guys live the life their yappin about in the songs.Too many of them ARE gangsters.Do carry guns and shoot each other, and sometimes innocent people.Hard to compare that with the partying the Rat Pack did back in the late 50's and 60's.

[Wild Dingo]

Well in one sense I agree with Hans here but only one ;)

Mum could never understand nor enjoy my predelickshun for ACDC back when they began nor with Black Sabbath Led Zep Kiss or the ones she particularily disliked Joe Cocker and Alice Cooper but I HAD TO HAVE on the turn table or cassette deck at mach 10 warp drive 123000067 burst eardrums level... she hated the music with a vengence

Even when I took her to see Joe at a concert she left early "bad 'sample son hes a bad 'sample drinkin an such in front of kids" :rolleyes:

Alice was enough to send her into a ight royal rage the only thing known to do so :(

So what were seein now as parents is the same thing... a parent from another era unable to recognize the changes

YEAH RIGHT!! :D :D

This thing the young fellas have with having their daks around their friggin ankles and the crotch at their knees bloody boxer shorts showin WHAT THE HELL IS WITH THAT? :mad: aaaaaaaggggghhhhhhh that drives me troppo!! :mad:

some lyrics are just pure garbage... and some vids are porn... I mean some of these girls would be less than 18 and they gyrate their asses in tiny tight shorts while some dropkick with his daks around his knees goes "yo yo... yo mos a ho... shake that bump yo lady bump... yo yo gonna drop a dump... yo yo mofo" {gag gak vomit} while shes wagglin her ass next to... aaarrrr :mad: :mad:

but... I like big butts an I cannot lie :D

Meanwhile... luckily none of my hoons or hoonesttes have gotten "into" that crud... Aaron did bought several cds Korn and Linkon Park if I remember rightly anyway he played them once in the caravan and when he came home from work the next day he found them cut to bits on the table with a note "got a problem? see dad about this and gain another" nothing was said... he tried the daks around the knees for awhile but me bein me he gave it away fairly swiftly... theres really is nothing quite like being dakked {strides being pulled WAYdown often WITH the boxers as well :eek: } every single time you go out with your old man in public to make a young fella hoist em up where they belong quick smart ;)

[Sam F]

I'm no big fan of rap as a rule. But immoral lyrics can show up in any type of music.
If you'll excuse the pun, sometimes rap it's gets an undeserved bad rap.

Try this version of Happy Birthday for a different sort:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=CkYkuZaq6Jw

[hansp77]

Ish,
I don't need to listen to them- In the past and very briefly I tried, and freinds carried on without me...:(
I completely agree.
Gangsta rap (in general) is BAD- musically, intellectually and for the social values it promotes (IMHO).
On the other (much smaller) hand, I don't know exactly what you would call it, but within the gansta-rap genre there is a bit of a rise in 'anti-gangsta-gangsta rap'. While I still do not appreciate the musical style- the messages that come through are a lot more positive, being completely against that sort of stupid thug-pimp-killer-dealer mentality, and for the kids who like that style, just as 'pleasurable' to the ear.

Indisputably there are some great artistists and activists within Hip Hop, who promote, fight for and practice some very positive things within their communities and beyond.

each to their own.
Very rarely would I listen to Rap, and occasionally to 'good' hip hop.
Hip Hop was a part of my youth however, so even albums, artists and songs that I no longer respect as such, I can still listen to and in memory return to those days, times, people and events.
Same as everyone else, and the different music that they grew up with.

P.S.
as a far aside, out of the long lost blue, one of my all-time favourite obscure musicians is coming to visit Melbourne, and I will definately go see him.
Jesus Rodriguez.
My tastes are quite eclectic.

[Wild Dingo]

Jesus
My tastes are quite eclectic.

Hans... thats not THE Rodriguez is it?? from back in the 60s an 70s drug crazed days surely? :eek:

[hansp77]

Dingo,
Indeed it is the very same.
http://www.cornerhotel.com/media/Image/rodriguez1970newsite.jpg
I have been trying to find the promo page for it (here it is far down http://www.cornerhotel.com/)- I could not believe it when I saw it. As far as I could tell he had disapeared from the face of the earth. Apparantly he is very popular in South Africa and a couple of other places.
Roumour is he might be playing at the melbourne Blues Festival too, of which I also have a ticket.

[High C]

... I like big butts an I cannot lie :D

I gotta admit, I like that one. :D

[Katherine]

but... I like big butts an I cannot lie :D
What no Put em On The Glass?

[Paul Pless]

Is it less offensive if presented this way?

Modern acoustic remake of the classic Niggers With Attitude track, Boyz in the Hood: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Zp-u2B4sK8

[stumpbumper]

Is it less offensive if presented this way?

Modern acoustic remake of the classic Niggers With Attitude track, Boyz in the Hood: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Zp-u2B4sK8

:D :D :D :D Priceless

I try to be tolerant of rap, but I'm not doing so well. I have no problem with the fact that African Americans feel they should be entitled to their own culture, but does it have to be these "In yo face", vulgar rantings? I can understand anger at society, but is there any positive movement accompanying it, or just this destructive rage that is manifest in the music and the style of dress.

The culture hinders their progress and breeds more hatred in themselves and in others. It's not "quiet desperation", but rather unbearably loud anger.

Some say the profanity is just a part of the culture. Does that make it OK? I can tell you it definitely is part of the culture in the high school where I teach. They walk up and down the halls screaming it. They apparently have few role models in their every day lives other than what they glean from the rap/hip-hop music. It's sad, but it's also frightening.

[High C]

....those dumbasses wear their britches to knees....

About a month ago a nearby newspaper ran the following headline for a story about one of these fellers: "Low Pants Trip up Fleeing Covington Teen"

Yes, he ran from the police and was quickly brought down by.....his own britches. :D

[ishmael]

Pat said,

"It has always been thus, boys have always had but one obsession, sex, and as shocking as it seems, so have women. Prostitution is probably less prevalent than in the past. Sex is what we do."

Aha, a closet Freudian! LOL. Maybe not so closeted.

While sex is important, especially strongly in adolescence, I dispute that it's "the thing we do." As a boy, I had strong interests in all kinds of things, from working on bicycles, to fishing, to looking through microscopes. Sex was there, for sure. All the changes going from boyhood to manhood make for a confusing welter of emotion and hormones. But boiling it down to sex was Freud's great error, and we've compounded it by our focus on it since Freud first brought it up.

Freud's impact on our modern western culture would be difficult to overestimate . Huge. Even geniuses are a bit off base from time to time.

[Katherine]

Ok all you old guys, if you think Akon is crap, Google the Video for Hip Hop is Dead by NAS. Listen to what's the background tracks. :D

[High C]

Ok all you old guys, if you think Akon is crap, Google the Video for Hip Hop is Dead by NAS. Listen to what's the background tracks. :D

Old guys!%%#$@ :mad:

I'll have you know I've also performed with Perry Como! :o :D

[ishmael]

You performed with Perry Como? I want to hear that story. Please, pretty please.

Dad liked the old-fashioned crooners, Bing the emblem. Como was the last of them. Mom was more into the Sinatra bad boy style. A definition of their tangle, in some way.

But, please, I want to hear about Perry Como.

[Sam F]

Perry Como?
A long time ago when I was just a kid, I used to tune in to the BBC on my 1940 vintage Zenith short wave and listen to music. I think the program was Top of the Pops and one evening they played Spencer Davis Group followed by Perry Como. I don't think I ever recovered from the experience. :D

[pipefitter]

I don't try to be self righteous to the effect of what music people listen to. I totally dislike rap and that's all fine and well.It's my choice as is listening to it their's. But they take it one step further with such intentional lack of consideration which also takes away from any artful aspect that they claim they are getting from it. What I mean by that is that they intentionally force it on everyone else with obnoxious/abrasive presentation for blasting it through everyone elses ears at traffic lights,cruising the neighborhood at 3 am.They do it to cause trouble and much in following with the music's ill intent,are pretty much saying that they dare you to do something about it. When my sons were infants,I had bouts of trouble getting them to sleep during the teething stage,which involved walking my one son in arms up and down the driveway,sometimes for an hr or more. Then one of the ghettomobiles would come down the road after I got him to sleep and it would rattle the house.
Upon putting the 4spd trans in my Bronco,I finished up at about 2 am and wasn't to reconnect the exhaust until I was sure all was right. I got quite even with 8000 rpm holeshots with open headers starting right at their driveways. Small block v8 with open headers will rattle windows as good as anything.Rap that,bruthaaaa.

Another buddy had a chevy blazer with 44" tires on it.He mounted huge speakers in the wheelwells and when they would thump their music at the lights,he had roughly 2000 watts of rms power with Hank Williams Jr. that would blow their hair sideways right through their windows.

[Bill R]

Another buddy had a chevy blazer with 44" tires on it.He mounted huge speakers in the wheelwells and when they would thump their music at the lights,he had roughly 2000 watts of rms power with Hank Williams Jr. that would blow their hair sideways right through their windows.

I did something similar once. Neighbors played that ghetto crap at window rattling levels all the time. All attempts by myself and the neighbors to turn it down were ignored.

Since I worked in radio, I brought home one of our promotional trailers, shaped like a 36' long boom box. Had one hell of a sound system in it. Parked it in my back yard, and cranked up Merle Haggard, Hank Williams Jr, Johnny Cash, etc.

Never had another problem with them after that.

[David Tabor (sailordave)]

What pi$$es me is the way this RAP CRAP demeans women. I mean, I can't believe some kid would want someone to sing to his MOTHER like this!
And yeah, the WHO use the F word in WHO ARE YOU? but not as a verb.

The STONES, yeah they made it clear they were into loving women. :D But not treating them like so much trash to get their pleasure from and toss aside.

Guess I'm getting old.

But not so old that I didn't kick my boys butt in a snowball battle today!
Nailed him with a snowball and then later w/ a full shovel full of snow when he thought he was sneaking up on me! And capped it all off by chasing him down and pinning him to the ground, face down in the snow. The look on his face when he realized I was going to run him down was PRICELESS!

That "OH $hit! look...:eek: hehehehehehe!

Best part was he didn't lose his temper when I got him.:)

[Mrleft8]

What was that photographer's name in St. Augustine?......... The blond who did surf photos?.....

[High C]

You performed with Perry Como? I want to hear that story. Please, pretty please....

It's true, sometime in the late 70s. Perry was in his 70s, too, I think. :D

He was so smooth, so cool, all in slow mo', and such a pretty sound. I don't remember much of it, except that it took him a while to get around on stage, but the voice was clear as ever.

It was in a hotel ballroom, don't recall the occasion. It was a big band, I was the percussionist, the great John Vidacovich the set drummer. :cool:

http://www.drummerworld.com/pics/drumpics1/johvidydougmason.jpg


http://www.gocee.com/kc/5410_perry_como.jpg

[stumpbumper]

Perry is one of the greats. No pretense or show - just talent. One of my favorites is the one Don McClean penned, And I Love Her So.

[ishmael]

Great stuff, High C. Is that you at the drums? Not quite how I pictured you, but there ya go. As the old saw reads, ya can't read a book by its cover. You look more ready to play with David Bryne than Perry Como. Okay, on second read, it's not you.

Wasn't that voice wonderful? I heard Nat King Cole sing Mona Lisa yesterday. Good gawd, the human voice. If there's a smoother voice than Nat Coles, ever, I want you to show me.

Back on the original topic. What has happened? I'm pretty isolated from the culture these days, but how have we gone from Stevie Wonder to Niggers with Attitude in less than a generation?

[High C]

Great stuff, High C. Is that you at the drums? Not quite how I pictured you...

Heavens no! That's the great John Vidacovich, who was the other drummer on that show. I threw that in because it's such a great pic. I'd make nearly two of him! I'm about the size and shape of....well....you! :D

[ishmael]

Com'on, I want to see a pic of you at the drums. I'd post one of me playing sax, if I had one.

I gave my saxaphone away, years back. A decent instrument. Hopefully it has found good homes over the years. The last time I played it was in basement of a house in Irving, MA. I played pretty well in my day, and the sax is a soulful bundle of keys in the right hands. That last time I played my heart out, to no one.

[hansp77]

What pi$$es me is the way this RAP CRAP demeans women. I mean, I can't believe some kid would want someone to sing to his MOTHER like this!
)

Just a few nights ago I saw an australian hip hop group named 'Sister She', they are a three (one male DJ and two female 'old school' rapper MC's) person Rap group. One of their best tracks was basically an enhancement and rather devestating example of your argument here.
It was crushing of the pathetic male demeaning attitude, funny and totally empowering to women, and a great peice of music and performance in its own right.
What I mean is that, while this example and the many others out there like them DO NOT in anyway improve the attitude and idea's present within the sort of 'crap rap' you are talking about (which I too despise), it should prove that not all rap is 'crap'. As usual such sweeping statements are both false AND demeaning to the many individuals and groups with the hip hop culture who are completely against the sort of things you take issue with, and to which they focuss their efforts and artistic integrity towards changing.

If your son likes rap, then think out of the box. Find him some good stuff- and then ban the bad stuff (or just do like Shane and cut up the CD's:D ) There is plenty of it out there, and honestly the 'good' stuff is usually much better music anyway. Talk to him about the issues and mentalities present within the bad and the good (probably better done by asking questions and urging him to seek out the logical answers that would follow from such positions- rather than telling/lecturing), and so long as your dear son is not too far gone (:o ) down that road, it should not take too much effort to help him steer his musical interests (and absorbed opinion) into much higher ground.
If he has a bit more intellegence than a goldfish, and his interests naturally lead him to further aspirations and idea's than money, pimped cars, 'beeutches' (:mad: ), guns, ego and violence- then your chance of success increases exponentially.

If serious discussion of this issue is not what you are after, then sorry,
go on blanket bagging all rap as crap (and unfortunately enshrine your position as 'out of touch' and wrong).

Best luck.
(and don't get me wrong- I HATE with a passion the sort of rap and mentalities that you are talking about.):)

[BrianW]

I'm no big fan of rap as a rule. But immoral lyrics can show up in any type of music.
If you'll excuse the pun, sometimes rap it's gets an undeserved bad rap.

Try this version of Happy Birthday for a different sort:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=CkYkuZaq6Jw

SamF,

What a small world. I've got that same 'rap' song on my mp3 player. It really stirs the heart, no matter what a persons leanings on the subject.

Flipsyde Happy Birthday Lyrics
[Verse 1]
Please accept my apologies, wonder what would have been
would you have been a little angel? or an angel of sin?
tom-boy running around, hanging with all the guys?
or a little tough boy with beautiful brown eyes?
paid for the murder befor they had determined the sex
choosing our life over your life meant your death
and you never got a chance to even open your eyes
sometimes I wonder as a fetus if you fought for your life?
Would you have been a little genius, in love with math?
Would you have played in your school clothes and made me mad?
would you have been a little rapper like your poppa the piper?
would you have made me quit smoking by finding one of my lighters?
I wonder about your skintone and shape of your nose
and the way you would have laughed and talked fast or slow
I think about it every year, so I picked up a pen
Happy birthday, I love you whoever you would have been

[Chorus x 2]
Happy birthday
What I thought was a dream
make a wish
was as real as it seemed

I made a mistake

[Verse 2]
I got a million excuses, as to why you died
and other people got their own reasons for homocide
who's to say it would have worked
and who's to say it wouldn't have
I was young and struggling, but old enough to be a dad
the fear of being my father has never disappeared
I ponder it frequently while I'm sipping on my beer
my vision of a family was artificial and fake
so when it came time to create I made a mistake
now you got a little brother, maybe it's really you
maybe you really forgave us knowing we was confused
maybe, every time that he smiles
it's you proudly knowing that your father is doing the right thing now
I never tell a woman what to do with her body
but if she don't love children then we can't party
I think about it every year so I picked up a pen
Happy birthday, I love you whoever you would have been

[Chorus x 2]
Happy birthday
What I thought was a dream
make a wish
was as real as it seemed

I made a mistake

[repeat x2]
from the heavens to the womb
to the heavens again
from the ending to the ending
never got to begin
maybe one day we can meet face to face
in a place without time and space
happy birthday

[Chorus x 2]
Happy birthday
What I thought was a dream
make a wish
was as real as it seemed

I made a mistake

[martin schulz]

Old geezers complaining about new music - yeah the Rat Pack those were the times, huh?

[seanz]

Is it less offensive if presented this way?

Modern acoustic remake of the classic Niggers With Attitude track, Boyz in the Hood: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Zp-u2B4sK8

Here's another ,more a straight cover than a satire
http://ninagordon.com/sightsandsounds.html
scroll to the bottom of the page and click 'Straight outta Compton(NWA)'
I couldn't get the direct link to the download for some reason.
Oh 'Explicit lyrics Advisory' :)

[David Tabor (sailordave)]

What was that photographer's name in St. Augustine?......... The blond who did surf photos?.....


Erin. :) Grrrowwwlll!

[David Tabor (sailordave)]

My Dad had it figured out.
No Power, no music.
It's simple.
Pull the plug or flip the breaker.
Remind him who pays the electric bill.

My father did that to me when I played Led Zep too loud one time too many... WHIRrrrrr r r r.:eek:

Can't do that w/ an IPOD or cellphone that plays music or portable CD players...


And for the record, er CD? hansp77, while I'm not fond of RAP music as a genre, it's this CRAP in particular that I don't like. I actually have found myself liking SOME of the beats of some of the music. Definitely NOT my style, but I can tolerate it occasionally.
It's just like years ago when we were told foul language was for illiterate people that don't know how to express themselves. I cuss some, but nothing like some of the younger (and mostly FEMALE) crowd that spew forth constantly.

Again the thing that bothers me most is "music" like this that DIRECTLY demeans people. If this was a RAP song about lynching a minority/ethnic group.... There would be an outcry like you wouldn't believe! But since it's about F'ing a woman that is a stripper... hey, fair game. WTF?

[Sam F]

SamF,

What a small world. I've got that same 'rap' song on my mp3 player. It really stirs the heart, no matter what a persons leanings on the subject....

I only heard about it a 2 weeks or so ago when a musician that I know told me about it. You're right, it's quite moving and illustrates that the rap format needn't be solely the playground for obscenities and socially disruptive garbage.