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Nicholas Carey
02-05-2007, 08:04 PM
A NASA astronaut -- a member of the crew of Discovery last summer -- has been arrested in Orlando for attempted kidnap. From the charging affadavit, sounds like she had a little murder/dismemberment planned. Here's the charging affidavait:

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/space/orl-pdf-nowakaffidavit,0,1599643.acrobat

From the Orlando Sentinal (http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/space/orl-bk-nasaastronaut0507feb05,0,6104316.story)

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/photo/2007-02/27756215.jpg


Space shuttle astronaut arrested at OIA on attempted kidnapping, battery charges
Henry Pierson Curtis
Sentinel Staff Writer
February 5, 2007, 7:11 PM EST

A NASA astronaut is charged with attacking her rival for another astronaut's attention early Monday at Orlando International Airport, the Orlando Sentinel has learned.

Lisa Marie Nowak drove from Texas to meet the 1 a.m. flight of a younger woman who had also been seeing the male astronaut Nowak pined for, according to Orlando police.

Nowak -- who was a mission specialist on a Discovery launch last summer -- was wearing a trench coat and wig and had a knife, BB pistol, rubber tubing and plastic bags, reports show. Once U.S. Air Force Capt. Colleen Shipman arrived, Nowak followed her to the airport's Blue Lot for long-term parking, tried to get into Shipman's car and doused her with pepper spray, according to reports.

Nowak, 43, is charged with attempted kidnapping, battery, attempted vehicle burglary with battery and destruction of evidence. Police considered her such a danger that they requested she be held without bail in the Orange County Jail, reports show.

Nowak told police that she was "involved in a relationship with," Bill Oefelein another NASA astronaut, and categorized the relationship as "more than a working relationship but less than a romantic relationship," according to the charging affidavit.

seanz
02-05-2007, 08:18 PM
Redhead.:p
Never turn your back on them.:D

BrianW
02-05-2007, 08:24 PM
It's a chick thing, us guys wouldn't understand. :)

S/V Laura Ellen
02-05-2007, 08:47 PM
Are you sure that this story didn't come from "The Onion - America's Finest News Source".

http://www.theonion.com/content/

brad9798
02-05-2007, 09:30 PM
They are human ... just like the rest of us!

:)

TimH
02-05-2007, 10:35 PM
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/dayart/aponline/68302.77Astronaut-Arrested.sff.jpg

Astronaut charged with kidnap attempt
By MIKE SCHNEIDER
ASSOCIATED PRESS WRITER

In this undated photo released by the Orange County Sheriff's Department, NASA astronaut Lisa Marie Nowak is shown. U.S. Navy Capt. Lisa Nowak, 43, was arrested Monday, Feb. 5, 2007, for attempting to kidnap a woman she believed was romantically involved with another astronaut she was in love with, police said. (AP Photo/Orange County Sheriff's Department)
ORLANDO, Fla. -- An astronaut drove from Houston to Florida, donned a disguise and confronted a woman she believed was romantically involved with a space shuttle pilot she was in love with, police said. She was charged with attempted kidnapping and other counts.

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/1110AP_Astronaut_Arrested.html

ishmael
02-06-2007, 12:04 AM
That can't be the same woman! Crank? Odd.

Nanoose
02-06-2007, 12:13 AM
Redhead.:p
Never turn your back on them.:D

That's not red!!

Andrew Craig-Bennett
02-06-2007, 05:11 AM
That does not say much for NASA's psychological profiling, does it?

JimD
02-06-2007, 05:37 AM
I say send 'em both up in the same shuttle till they hash things out.

Joe (SoCal)
02-06-2007, 07:16 AM
She drove from Houston to Fla. wearing diapers so she would not have to make rest stops :eek: Whoa :eek: thats hardcore.

KNOCKABOUT
02-06-2007, 08:02 AM
She drove from Houston to Fla. wearing diapers so she would not have to make rest stops :eek: Whoa :eek: thats hardcore.

Astronauts wear diapers while on the shuttle - this one seems to have popped an "O" ring though...

Tar Devil
02-06-2007, 08:04 AM
Same woman!!?? :eek:

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/photo/2007-02/27756215.jpg

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/dayart/aponline/68302.77Astronaut-Arrested.sff.jpg

Didn't know diapers would do that to a person! :D

Paul Girouard
02-06-2007, 10:11 AM
Same woman!!?? :eek:

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/photo/2007-02/27756215.jpg

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/dayart/aponline/68302.77Astronaut-Arrested.sff.jpg

Didn't know diapers would do that to a person! :D

Ah Phil wasn't it love that drove her to this :eek: :D Diapers where just a tool.

ccmanuals
02-06-2007, 10:16 AM
"armed with a BB gun "

that's a funny visual, a woman standing in the airport with her trusty Red Ryder. :D

http://www.daisymuseum.com/PrivateGalleries1-4-06/Adsgallery/images/REDR.jpg

John of Phoenix
02-06-2007, 10:30 AM
Here's the lucky guy. :)

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/nation/images/070206astronaut_theguy.jpg


Nowak, a married mother of three who police believe was in a love triangle with a fellow astronaut, was charged with trying to abduct a woman she saw as her romantic rival, authorities said.

Nanoose
02-06-2007, 10:33 AM
Very nice.... :)

Married mother of three?!?!?! Good grief.

Milo Christensen
02-06-2007, 10:36 AM
Does this spacesuit make my butt look fat?

geeman
02-06-2007, 10:39 AM
Its not like it was back in the 60's when there were only 7 astronauts.Now there are a large number , and as in any large group of people life gets in the way.It doesnt matter ,senator, president,police chief,judge,company owner,mother, father, their just people and people dont always conform or PERFORM to what WE BELIEVE they should be.
Thier just people,like us trying to get thru life.

TimH
02-06-2007, 10:42 AM
I wonder if they are members of the 16 mile high club..

geeman
02-06-2007, 10:45 AM
You always wonder what their up too when their up there, but nobody ever tells us do they? lol

Hwyl
02-06-2007, 11:21 AM
Nowak ......... was wearing a trench coat and wig and had a knife, BB pistol, rubber tubing and plastic bags

Throw in some crisco ,a Rubber sheet and a couple bottles of Gin, then you got one helluva date!

Funniest thing I read all week. Should have added the diaper.

geeman
02-06-2007, 11:30 AM
the diaper thing is just too kinky for me,,,,,,,,,,,, lol
CNN now showing it too,,,,,,,,

Gonzalo
02-06-2007, 11:52 AM
Its not like it was back in the 60's when there were only 7 astronauts.Now there are a large number , and as in any large group of people life gets in the way.... The original seven had pretty wild and woolly lives, too, if Tom Wolfe is to be believed. And poor Alan Shepard didn't even have a diaper....

KNOCKABOUT
02-06-2007, 11:56 AM
Heres my question... She had to have stopped for gas driving all that way... so why not just pee when you fill-up? Why the diapers?

B_B
02-06-2007, 12:05 PM
It's a chick thing, us guys wouldn't understand. :)


http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i238/BraamBerrub/oj_simpson.jpg

yep, us guys haven't a clue...:rolleyes:

Tar Devil
02-06-2007, 12:17 PM
Doesn't NASA have psycho tests for these kinda whackos?

Or, do you just gotta fit in those diapers?

John of Phoenix
02-06-2007, 12:19 PM
Whoa, suddenly there's an attempted 1st degree murder charge.
No bail.

Nicholas Carey
02-06-2007, 03:01 PM
Whoa, suddenly there's an attempted 1st degree murder charge.
No bail.That was pretty obvious from the charging affadavit: big knife, steel mallet, surgical tubing, latex gloves, several large plastic trash bags -- I don't believe she intended to have a nice little chat about their boyfriend-in-common.
...Officer Reeve observed a woman fitting the description of the suspect, who was later identified as Mrs Nowak. Officer Reeve watched as Mrs Nowak walked into the bus stop, placed a black object along with a white plastic bag into the trash can and then walked away from the trash can. Officer Reeve stopped Mrs Nowak and asked her if she could produce identification....Ms Shipman positively identified Mrs Nowak as the person who had attacked her.. Ms Shipman then stated that when the attack occurred, Mrs Nowak had black har and was wearing adifferent coat that what she had on at this time. Officer Reeve placed Mrs Nowak under arrest for Battery.

Pursuant to arrest, Officer Reeve search the black bag, which Mrs Nowak possessed and found inside a tan colored trench coat with a hoot attahced. From inside the trash can, Officer Reeve recovered the black objects, which turned out to be a wig and the plastic bag which contained a CO2-powered BB pistol.

...

Inside the vehicle was an opened package of pepper spray, an unused Co2 cartridge for a BB gGun, approximately 6 latex gloves, Map Quest directions from Houston, Texas to the Orlando International Airport, emails from Ms Shipman to Mr Oefelein, diapers that Mrs Nowak admitted to using so she did not have to stop and urinate, a letter that indicated how much Mrs Nowak loved Mr oefelein, an opened package for a buck knife.

...

Also found inside the black bad, in Mrs Nowak's possession at the time of arrest were a brand new steel mallet, a brand new folding knife with a 4 inch blade, 3-4 feet of rubber tubing, several large plastic garbage bags and approximately $600 in cash. A handwritten list with these items on it was also found inside the black bag.

Tristan
02-06-2007, 03:34 PM
Doesn't NASA have psycho tests for these kinda whackos?

Or, do you just gotta fit in those diapers?

Well, one does have to possess a moderately high level of psychopathic tendencies to WANT to be an astronaut. Cops (are you listening Geeman:D :D ), ER surgeons, solo ocean sailors:eek: , and many airline pilots also tend to score a bit high on the psychopathy scale.

ishmael
02-06-2007, 03:50 PM
From the look of the two photos, I wouldn't be surprised if there's an addiction involved, and that can unleash the demons. They look a bit like before and after pics of meth addicts in the late beginning of their addiction. Could just be the stress of the situation, but it is odd.

Given the details of the story so far she clearly went off her nut, and astronauts aren't immune from that--drugs or no. Diapers so she could bee line it? Strange murderer's tool kit? Hm. I gotta think, even if she scored a bit high on a few scales, that something in particular set this off.

"Hell hath no fury..."

Gary E
02-06-2007, 04:36 PM
They are human ... just like the rest of us!

:)

Ohh common... THERE SPOSED TO BE SMART !!!

you do know what NASA means....

Need Another Seven Astronauts

BrianW
02-06-2007, 04:42 PM
Nowak ......... was wearing a trench coat and wig and had a knife, BB pistol, rubber tubing and plastic bags

Throw in some crisco ,a Rubber sheet and a couple bottles of Gin, then you got one helluva date!

Dude, that was funny! :D

I'm chuckling in the airport right now...

Joe (SoCal)
02-06-2007, 04:50 PM
Nowak ......... was wearing a trench coat and wig and had a knife, BB pistol, rubber tubing and plastic bags

Throw in some crisco ,a Rubber sheet and a couple bottles of Gin, then you got one helluva date!

I'm sorta single, I can handle it :)

Fly me to the moon
And let me play among the stars
Let me see what spring is like
On Jupiter and Mars
In other words hold my hand
In other words darling kiss me
Fill my life with song
And let me sing forevermore
You are all I hope for
All I worship and adore
In other words please be true
In other words I love you

Phillip Allen
02-06-2007, 06:32 PM
these guys are selected for agressivness, out of the box thinking and audacity...should we be suprised? Military leadership is vetted through out their respective carriers to eleminate those not willing to kill.

John of Phoenix
02-06-2007, 06:39 PM
Possesed by aliens. Fillm at 10.

JimD
02-06-2007, 07:09 PM
Same woman!!?? :eek:

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/photo/2007-02/27756215.jpg

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/dayart/aponline/68302.77Astronaut-Arrested.sff.jpg

Didn't know diapers would do that to a person! :D

The first picture is wearing fresh, clean, diapers. The second pic is after several days without a change.

JimD
02-06-2007, 08:35 PM
Republican - stayed the course with those diapers long after it was time for a change.

geeman
02-06-2007, 08:48 PM
My question is, should I go out and buy more stock in "Depends" now?

Don Olney
02-06-2007, 10:33 PM
She should have taken OJ's limo service to Orlando. It gets you to the airport with an hour left to kill.

geeman
02-06-2007, 10:35 PM
Ouch!!!!!

Joe (SoCal)
02-07-2007, 07:14 AM
Ya know there is a bit of circumstantial evidence in this situation, yea she flipped she recently separated she was in love. As for the evidence, from what I have read all she did was mace the rival. As for the items in her car, hell I have a 4" folding knife on me at all times, I have a rubber mallet and some rubber ( bilge ) hose in my car as well. OK I don't have the wig or the diaper hey but that could be fashion choice :D

boylesboats
02-07-2007, 07:33 AM
Geee, I thought that Astronaut(s) suppose to be loyal people... I assumed there are some "bad apples" that bunch too...

Gary E
02-07-2007, 12:05 PM
Boy is this a case of SPECIAL TREATMENT... that dumbroad should still be in jail.

Bob Cleek
02-07-2007, 12:17 PM
Obviously a stress related employment disability. She'll get a pension, I suppose.

Phillip Allen
02-07-2007, 12:18 PM
Joe's right of course...I have a knife, in fact I have a lot of knives (must be evidence) I also have hammers and guns and sheets that could be knotted together and rope of several sizes...etc, etc, etc...

The news media is NOT our friend when they dramatize in order to pad their reports or suggest to us how to think...

TimH
02-07-2007, 12:21 PM
I think she will get off of this one. Clearly she has lost it given the details. No sane person would do this. Especially the "more than a working relationship, less than a romantic relationship" part...

Gary E
02-07-2007, 12:35 PM
Do you want to live next door to this BIMBO ???
Maybe with a PIT BULL or a ROTWEILER fora guard dog...

Phillip Allen
02-07-2007, 01:11 PM
Gary...try being a bit more generous

Gary E
02-07-2007, 01:34 PM
Gary...try being a bit more generous

And exactly how should I do that?

You dont even live in the same state she does..

Vince Brennan
02-07-2007, 01:42 PM
PTSD (Post Takeoff Stupid Disorder)

Well, her Navy career is hard aground, the bottom's ripped out of her days at NASA and I don't think she'll be welcome at any more PTA teas... all in all I'd have to say that I'd rather have had a mid-air, meself.

BTW: just what are the Florida authorities a-thinking of, letting her scoot back to Texas, either with or without an ankle bracelet? If it was you or me we'd be fending off "Bubba" in the holding cells until we rotted.

Phillip Allen
02-07-2007, 01:56 PM
And exactly how should I do that?

You dont even live in the same state she does..

anyone can wig-out...anyone...it doesn't mean she should be let go but I doubt Bimbo applies

Gary E
02-07-2007, 02:09 PM
anyone can wig-out...anyone...it doesn't mean she should be let go but I doubt Bimbo applies

Sure anyone can... and when ANYONE does they KEEP THEM IN JAIL..
They dont give them special treatment like they did for this DUMBROAD BIMBO...

Since your so concerned with her well being...

Read about her here......

http://www.parenthood.com/articles.html?article_id=5563

Wy dont you move next door to her?

If you did that... would you get outa jail?