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Torq
01-23-2007, 06:13 PM
Hi Guys,
I'm looking for some guidance on a few planks I'm about to replace on an 18ft clinker sailer. Three planks are damaged about 2 ft from the transom, the middle plank of the 3 is holed and the planks above and below have a piece broken out of them. The Sheer strake above is scarphed about 6 ft from the transom. My question is, How would you guys recommend I layout the scarphs for replacing the 3 damaged boards taking into account the scarph in the sheer strake?
Many thanks.
Torq

P.S. Is it possible to post pics to this forum? If so how.

Hwyl
01-23-2007, 10:19 PM
Yes it's possible to post pictures, just do a search, there's lot's of advice on it. You have to have an account with flikr or imagestation or similar.

As fpr the repair, how had would it be to replace the whole plank?

Thorne
01-24-2007, 01:40 AM
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Torq
01-24-2007, 02:30 PM
Hi Guys,
thanks for the replies, and here's the picture.

http://www.rd-ireland.com/images/hole.jpg

Replacing the whole plank is a lot of work, there is a nail and rove every 2 inches so at a rough calculation thats 216 nails to remove!
So guys, any suggestions on spacing the scarphs? I was told that there is a formula that can be used to lay them out.
Keep well,
torq

Canoeyawl
01-24-2007, 03:50 PM
With a traditionally bedded and fastened scarph there is a proper spacing distance, usually a minimum of several frames or stations separating the joints. Using an epoxied joint this is not as critical. I have seen hood ends redone all in a row only back to the first frame! Not exactly what I would do but it worked and is still working and that was done fifteen years ago.
I would make the replacement pieces long enough to spring a fair curve and use epoxy scarphs at about 10/12: 1

Thorne
01-24-2007, 04:36 PM
Something that was pointed out in another thread on scarphs is that the external slanted edge of the scarph (insert proper nautical term here) should point towards the stern, not the bow.

Stiletto
01-24-2007, 05:05 PM
Why?

JimConlin
01-24-2007, 05:08 PM
I'd think that if the scarphs were well fitted and glued with epoxy, there's not a need to separate them widely. A plank-width or two would be OK. It's hard to see in the photo, but if the damage to the first and third of the three damaged planks is minor, a small scarphed dutchman might do the job.

Torq
01-24-2007, 05:44 PM
Thanks for the replies,
Firstly the external piece in the scarph must point towards the stern to stop water flow from getting into the joint and opening it.
Secondly, am I right in saying a "dutchman" is a small repair that is not the full width of the plank?
Thanks.
torq

Chan
01-24-2007, 05:58 PM
The rule for the scarph facing fore or aft doesn't really apply to epoxy "scarphs" [I've been spelling it scarf forever"] or any other glued scarf because if the glue fails it'll leak whichever direction the scarph is oriented.
In a lapstrake hull like that, I think a long dutchman is the way to go, it would be a bitch to try and cut all those rivets between planks for any length.