Locked myself out and I can't find the key.

[Joe ( Cold Spring on Hudson )]

New place has an old skeleton key for a front door dead-bolt lock. Can't get one made easy so I only had one key. Went the gym then out to dinner and a movie with my daughter tonight. Got home and no key. :( Why is it that you think if you keep rechecking the same pocket it will miraculously appear?

Problem is the key is one of those you need it to lock yourself in and to lock yourself out keys. :mad: I got in through a unlocked window, so much for high security. The place is on ground level with a big front porch so it wasn't a big deal to get in. The big problem is there is no way to get Lucky Dog's fat arse out, and believe me he HAD to go out. So you guessed it I lifted his fat lard arse butt up and out the open window. It took about 5 tries to get a good enough grip and prevent him from trying with all his might to not go out the window.

Just spent the better part of an hour making coat wire skeleton keys with no luck. Even tried to remove the whole lock mechanism to no avail. I have no idea how Im going to solve this short of a very old locksmith.

Any ideas ?

[Phil Heffernan]

Yeah... Don't lock the door in the first place Joe...

It's CSOH...no need...

PH

PS...Call the landlady tomorrow...Tell her that locks that won't let you out without a key are illegal, per fire codes...

[Joe ( Cold Spring on Hudson )]

Yeah... Don't lock the door in the first place Joe...

It's CSOH...no need...

PH

PS...Call the landlady tomorrow...

Door kinda swings open without the lock, I know its Cold Spring and all, but I kinda like to keep the rain and snow out of the living room

PS...Landlady is in the Bahamas, and NO I didn't ask if I could join her ;)

[Paul Girouard]

Pull the hinge pins (if they are not NRP's (non removable pins ), remove door , it will be tight but you should be able to pry it by the hinge barrels . Then remove lockset , buy new lockset , reinstall door , (put hinge pins back in :rolleyes: ) reinstal new lockset.

If it's a old / or full mortice lock some have push buttons on the door edge that control if the door will lock , if it has those just don't push the I wanta be locked button , this is a long shot.

[Paul Girouard]

Post a photo of the lockset , I might be able to add more . If it's older there are ways to trick it , some times ;)

[Phil Heffernan]

Pull the hinge pins (if they are not NRP's (non removable pins ), remove door , it will be tight but you should be able to pry it by the hinge barrels . Then remove lockset , buy new lockset , reinstall door , (put hinge pins back in :rolleyes: ) reinstal new lockset.

If it's a old / or full mortice lock some have push buttons on the door edge that control if the door will lock , if it has those just don't push the I wanta be locked button , this is a long shot.

That should do it...Change the darn lockset yerself...

Skeleton key my arse
:D :D :D

[katey]

You used to be able to buy generic skeleton keys at any hardware store. I haven't tried lately.

Katey

[Joe ( Cold Spring on Hudson )]

Yea old Post Road Hardware has em gonna go first thing in the AM. See what skeletons they have in the closet ;)

Oh and the hinges are NRP's (non removable pins ) :(

[elf]

Oh and the hinges are NRP's (non removable pins ) :(
Ain't it just the way!

[Joe ( Cold Spring on Hudson )]

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid223/p73a0233a87c82deafaa96947aaef8e7c/eb042ccf.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid223/pb45702c2fd3d25cb1e729cb79f57f2ed/eb042ce0.jpg

[Phil Heffernan]

Joe

Deduct the cost of solution from the rent:cool:

PH

[Joe ( Cold Spring on Hudson )]

Joe

Deduct the cost of solution from the rent:cool:

PH

It really is a dumb solution for a front door lock to an Apt. :rolleyes: It's lost its charm pretty fast. ;)

[Phil Heffernan]

It's still a great apartment, Joe, don't be throwin the baby out with the bathwater...

Good thing you found out about the needed key before a dire need to exit...

PH

[Paul Girouard]

Bummer dude , you sure the pins arn't just rusted? Generally NRP's are used only on door that have the hinges on the outside , so a outswinging door , It's not always the case :o but as a general rule thats the case.

Is that a lil nubbin we can see in the key hole slot? Was the end of the key itself square or octagon , if so turn that lil nubbin it may release the backset. If it's not and the hinges are NRP's all my ideas are rubbish, call a locksmith in the AM and get a bigger key ring , and a spare key:D

Poor Lucky's gonna be a second storey man after all this sneakin in and out the window training :D Or he's gonna pee on the carpet:eek:

[BrianW]

Perhaps a 3" hole saw?

[Paul Girouard]

It really is a dumb solution for a front door lock to an Apt. :rolleyes: It's lost its charm pretty fast. ;)

Kinda dumb to loose the key as well:rolleyes: :D

[Paul Girouard]

Perhaps a 3" hole saw?

TNT? M-80? Sidewinder:eek:

[Joe ( Cold Spring on Hudson )]

Kinda dumb to loose the key as well:rolleyes: :D

Ya never lost a key? ;) :D

But ya know I knew how valuable the key was and I knew I was going to loose it. I just knew because it was the only key it was just karma that it had to get lost sooner or later. It was just to precious and invited just so many problems - you just knew it had to go missing.

[Paul Girouard]

Ya never lost a key? ;) :D

But ya know I knew how valuable the key was and I knew I was going to loose it. I just knew because it was the only key it was just karma that it had to get lost sooner or later. It was just to precious and invited just so many problems - you just knew it had to go missing.

Misplaced a few , but I don't recall ever being locked out , or having just one key, I have a lot of keys I have no idea whos they are . Ya know remodeling carpenters, get a key and forget to return it :( ,then wonder who the hells key is this :confused:

Good luck finding one that works , if you do the old one will jump right out and say "Here I am !":D

[geeman]

Somebody else said you can buy old style keys at hardware stores.I've seen em to,they usually come in a bubble pack of 2 keys.My suggestion would be to call the oldest hardware stores you can find and see if you can track a set down.

[boylesboats]

Geeeee, old time stuff... So much for security....
If it my own, I would change the lock, in case the key is in the wrong hand.....

[Nanoose]

Post Road
(

Post Road...now that brings back a bunch of memories. Dave's home town (Westport, CT) had a Post Road. Haven't seen or thought about that in a long time.

p.s. sorry for the key problems, Joe. Maybe you should keep it on a chain around your neck? :) :eek:

[Nanoose]

Joe

Deduct the cost of solution from the rent:cool:

PH

It's not the landlord's problem that he LOST HIS KEY!!!!!!

[Nanoose]

Oh and the hinges are NRP's (non removable pins ) :(

Git a screwdriver and take the hinges off!

[boylesboats]

Git a screwdriver and take the hinges off!

Problem........... The hinge pins are on the other side of the door, (if the door swing in) he is locked out....

[Nanoose]

I thought he was IN - climbed in through the window (I thought he said??)

[boylesboats]

I thought he was IN - climbed in through the window (I thought he said??)

Okay, I am wrong.....:D

[Paul Girouard]

Ya still can't get to the screw heads till the doors open , read the whole post :rolleyes: Joe is SOL , till he can unlock the door:rolleyes:

[Nanoose]

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.....right........he said he needs the key to open it from the inside too.....THAT'S why he was pushin the dog out the window. :) Got it now. Thanks, Paul. :rolleyes: Sorry, boylesboats :o

[boylesboats]

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.....right........he said he needs the key to open it from the inside too.....THAT'S why he was pushin the dog out the window. :) Got it now. Thanks, Paul. :rolleyes: Sorry, boylesboats :o
We're cool buddy...
"Pushing the dog outta the window"?:confused:

[The Bigfella]

Check the car seat yet Joe? Quickest solution might be to find the key.

[Hwyl]

Yeh, check the gym too.

[S/V Laura Ellen]

Ya never lost a key? ;) :D

But ya know I knew how valuable the key was and I knew I was going to loose it. I just knew because it was the only key it was just karma that it had to get lost sooner or later. It was just to precious and invited just so many problems - you just knew it had to go missing.

Don't sweat it Joe. Would will certainly find the ket shortly after you replace the lock set or get a new key. In the mean time it's just a new adventure.

[jack grebe]

Check out a local fleamarket or even local antique stores. you should be able to come up with another key. Good luck.....and don't squeeze the dog too tight on the way out the window:eek: .

[Joe ( Cold Spring on Hudson )]

Morning everyone still locked IN. Gonna make some coffee and get ready to lift that Lucky Dog out the window again. :eek: :rolleyes:
Good thing I've been working out ;)

[jack grebe]

See if you can catch a neibhor. many of those type locks will open with the same key.Not very secure, but maybe lucky for you:D

[Wild Dingo]

Im forever loosin the damned keys :mad: ... keys to the F100 keys to possums car keys to the front door keys to side door keys to back door keys to the shed... give me a key and I'll loose it :o

So what Ive done.. bein as Im gettin a tad smarter as Im ageing... what with me white beard wisdom doth come eh?! ;) :D is to make several copies of all the keys I need and put them on several key rings and leave them in different places... so Ive got these secret stashes around the house and out near the shed and a key in the toolbox (yeah yeah I lock that with another key that well I actually cant find right now :rolleyes: ) But anyways with my membory I tend to ahem... forget where I stashed em!

Sooo your doin well young fella... I mean all you did was loose the keys... its even worse when you not only loose the keys but also forget where the bloody spare sets are! :mad: and mate I aint upta climbin through the windows! :eek: :rolleyes: soo call me a doddery ol phart see if I care! :p

Take that lock of and buy a new one put that one and bobs yer uncle easy as... heck if shes in the Bahamas do you seriously think shes gonna give a purple rats bum about the door on the apartment? or that you had to change the lock? Not likely... just change it mate I give you all authority :D

[Joe ( Cold Spring on Hudson )]

See if you can catch a neibhor. many of those type locks will open with the same key.Not very secure, but maybe lucky for you:D

Tried it last night - nope not a match :(

[John Most]

Is there a reason not to call a lock smith?

[Paul Pless]

Ya never lost a key? ;) :D

But ya know I knew how valuable the key was and I knew I was going to loose it. I just knew because it was the only key it was just karma that it had to get lost sooner or later. It was just to precious and invited just so many problems - you just knew it had to go missing.

No doubt about it, its coming Joe. About three minutes after you go to all the trouble to replace the lock with a modern set, you'll find the old key.:D :D

[Gary E]

Lucky Dog will probably find the key right after Joe hits the door with a FIRE AXE.

[Norman Bernstein]

I can't believe it took 40 posts for someone to suggest calling a locksmith... isn't that the obvious solution?

[Joe ( Cold Spring on Hudson )]

Called locksmith last night left message no call back yet :rolleyes:
Called Post Road Hardware NOPE no skeleton keys. Going to check the local village hardware store. Post road said believe it or not to check Home Depot and Walmart. Go figure :rolleyes: and they wonder why the mom & pop stores are disappearing :rolleyes:

[mmd]

Joe, I know that this is a trial for you right now (not to mention poor Lucky Thar Dog), but I love these kinds of posts. Slice-of-life mini-dramas in which nobody gets hurt or harmed and that will, in time, be viewed by all involved as one of those incidents that funny tales are told about. The mental image of Lucky spreadeagled with his paws on the window casing resisting with all his might Joe's efforts to push him through is just killing me right now.

Hope it all works out well ... and soon!

[S.V. Airlie]

The key to success is having a spare one....Welcome to city living...

[Joe ( Cold Spring on Hudson )]

Joe, I know that this is a trial for you right now (not to mention poor Lucky Thar Dog), but I love these kinds of posts. Slice-of-life mini-dramas in which nobody gets hurt or harmed and that will, in time, be viewed by all involved as one of those incidents that funny tales are told about. The mental image of Lucky spreadeagled with his paws on the window casing resisting with all his might Joe's efforts to push him through is just killing me right now.

Hope it all works out well ... and soon!

If it doesn't get a resolution by the time lucky needs his next walk I'll make a You-Tube video just for you mmd. It is a seriously comical site :D :D :D

It's a very likely prospect since I have to run to work and wont be able to spend the day searching for skeletons ;)

[Mrleft8]

Any decent welder can make you a skellington key.
After you get the door open, install a separate deadbolt lockset. Stop using the old one and just use the new one...Make several copies of the new key.

[Mrleft8]

The mental image of Lucky spreadeagled with his paws on the window casing resisting with all his might Joe's efforts to push him through is just killing me right now.

Hope it all works out well ... and soon!....AH! Ya see, I figured Joe was trying to keep PART of Lucky inside, and just hang the business end of him out the window for nature, and gravity to do their thing.....

[willmarsh3]

One of many new house (or apartment) adventures. :) I hope it gets resolved soon.
Once I drove all day from DC and forgot the house key. I had to call the cat sitter at midnight and have her bring out one.
Will.

[Bruce Hooke]

Oh man, mmd's comment was bad enough and the Doug had to come along...now I'm gasping for breath I'm laughing so hard...

:D:D:D:D:D

[S.V. Airlie]

Now I have seen Lucky.. umm, Joe must have French doors in his apartment.... something at ground level... There is no way Lucky can put his transom out a window unless Joe has a crane...

Oh, and as far as dog hair is concerned.. Joe needs to learn how to knit.

[mmd]

Oh, great!

Now I have this image of poor Lucky Thar Dog spreadeagled against the window casing while Joe is trying to multi-task pushing with one arm and holding his cellphone at arm's length with the other to video the scene!

[jack grebe]

this might be a little too simple, but did you check over the doors and some of the other easy hiding places for a spare left from days gone by?ya never know

[jack grebe]

Hey Joe.....Film @ 11?:D

[S.V. Airlie]

There is no way.. Lucky outweighs me and that is something...At least I am 5'9"....

[jack grebe]

could be worse joe, It could be the Bathroom door thats locked and Lucky dog could be hangin your arse out the window:eek:

[BrianW]

Might keep an eye on Luckys yard deposits. Could be the 'key' to your problems. :)

[S.V. Airlie]

Ah.. so that is where the key is.. Hey Joe wait a day.... You will get it back...

[Joe ( Cold Spring on Hudson )]

Oh, great!

Now I have this image of poor Lucky Thar Dog spreadeagled against the window casing while Joe is trying to multi-task pushing with one arm and holding his cellphone at arm's length with the other to video the scene!

Already figured out the film footage. Video camera on a tiny tripod I have on the end table. Start filming, hilarity ensues, edit, upload and post. :D

On another track I have located the ONLY hardware store in 100 ,miles that has a set of skeleton keys ( pack of 6 ). Problem is they are open until 4 and they are in poughkeepsie. I’m working all day have tons of showing busy busy stress filled day no way Im going to make it there by 4:00 and they are not open Sunday :(

[S.V. Airlie]

Poukeepsie.. ummmm Vassar.. maybe you should get a few extra keys Joe... now there are some cute women there....while you are at it....LOL....

[Larry P.]

Joe I going out in a litle while let me check my local hardware store, if the have em I can overnight them to you.

[Joe ( Cold Spring on Hudson )]

Joe I going out in a litle while let me check my local hardware store, if the have em I can overnight them to you.

That would be super. Cause man I called EVERY place - nothing NADA just a blank stare or a quick nope over the phone. A few laughed :(

[Larry P.]

I don't know if he will but he does have some oddball stuff. Email me your cellphone # again and I'll let you know in about 1/2 hour maybe 45 min.

ldpasciut@optonline.net

[Larry P.]

Ok Joe, I got your email. I leaving in a few. I'll call you either way take care and tell Lucky dog to keep his legs crossed.

[Phillip Allen]

I could pick that lock if I was there...used to be something I did as a kid in my relitives houses...advantage of living 30 years behind the city curve

[jack grebe]

do any of these look close......only 50 mi away from you
http://cgi.ebay.com/Antique-Vintage-Skeleton-Skate-Key-Keys-Lot-Old-6-total_W0QQitemZ160075812118QQihZ006QQcategoryZ3557 QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[LeeG]

How about a davit and sling mounted outside the window for the dog?

[Paul Girouard]

Are you sure those hinge pins aren't just stuck? You do have a hammer / old chisel / screwdriver straight slot don't ya?


Your MTL already out showing houses but if your not put some oil , even cooking oil if it's all you've got :rolleyes: on those hinge pins. It's highly unlikely they are NPR's , photo's??? Of the hinge pins that is .

Jessh Joe you get in the darnest troubles:D

Poor Lucky gettin drug thru a window to do his duty:rolleyes: :D

[Tim_H]

I did that once... lost my keys in the snow. Had to break a window to get in :(

[StevenBauer]

Paul, judging from the lock the hinges might be the lift off type. The pin is fixed on the jam section and the door section has a corresponding hole. The door must be open to be lifted off the pin.

Like these:

http://www.leevalley.com/images/item/hardware/boxhardware/01b1451s2.jpg

Steven

[Paul Girouard]

Ya they could be, but it would also be a long shot , IMO. They are more than likely just a good old ball type hinge with the knuckle / ball top and bottom.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b299/PEG688/Jan20th.jpg


They're MTL rusted and Joe being a new bachelor type , real estate agent doesn't have the tools , or know how to gettum off:D


Poor Joe :rolleyes: :D

[JTA]

OK somebody close to Cold Springs (PHIL). Next time Joe post , call the cops and tell the someone broke into that apartment!!!:D

Uh ... Joe, don't read the above, its a secret

[Phil Heffernan]

That's LOL alright...Hey officer, I just saw a fat yellow lab break into that house !!!
:D :D :D

[S.V. Airlie]

see the hair and those deep deep footprints....right there officer...oh, and don't step in that!!!!!

Final outcome.. Joe gets a ticket for not curbing the pooch... Way to go Joe...

[Joe ( Cold Spring on Hudson )]

OK long story short is I got the door open :D Yippee
I went to a old hardware store that had every key except the one I needed So I bought a few figuring I could file one. Then I stopped in Home Depot and low and behold they had two of the one I needed. It was however kinda a skimpy version and it did not work at first and Lucky Dog looked like he was about to pop a kidney so I humped him out the window again, but this time I filmed it for you guys (I'm editing now )

So after humping him back through the window (also filmed :D ) I went to work fiddling with the keys I bought and after much jiggling I got the lock to open. I fixed the latch lock that does not require locking but keeps the door closed so I don't have to re-lock the door again. Hey as Phil says I live in Cold Spring :D :D :D

Look out for the film coming soon :D

[Peter Malcolm Jardine]

Brother, you are still the king of WBF. Only you could create a thread like this and have 70 some replies. :):)

[Joe ( Cold Spring on Hudson )]

BAM !!! FUNNY VIDEO :D :D :D


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CT9hEA6rE0k

[Phillip Allen]

Thanks Joe...

[The Bigfella]

Lucky Dog looked like he was about to pop a kidney so I humped him out the window again, but this time I filmed it for you guys (I'm editing now )



I'm not game to look - you can get arrested for humping dogs!

[Nanoose]

OK, now that you've told the whole world you're gonna leave your door unlocked, and showed them around the place, maybe you better rethink some of this plan.....

p.s. Lucky seems to have adjusted to his new routine quite well! What a sweetie...

[Joe ( Cold Spring on Hudson )]

It's not like I gave my address ;)
Besides I could use some company and I don't have much to steal ;)

And yes Lucky Dog is a sweetie, not much of a guard dog but he looks big enough to think twice about ;)

[Paul Girouard]

So Joe ya don't know how to pull a hinge pin do ya ? Those are not NRP's , unless once the door is open there's a set screw on inner side of the knuckle.

Jeesh lousies , ya take a straight slot screw driver or old beater chisel and drive up on that top cap and the pin comes out:rolleyes:

Hoy vey:rolleyes: real estate agents :D http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b299/PEG688/Jan204.jpg

So ya leave the window out while ya walked Lucky , how cold is it in CS?

PMJ is right who else but Joe could get 70 plus post outta being locked out ? Might be another whole thread :eek:

Don't loose that key again:cool:

[Nanoose]

PMJ is right who else but Joe could get 70 plus post outta being locked out ?




Maybe it was all a ruse!?! :eek:

[S/V Laura Ellen]

It was a low window! Why did Joe have to hump the dog out the window, it should have been able to climb out on its own. Must be one of those city slicker dogs, I guess.:D

[Joe ( Cold Spring on Hudson )]

So Joe ya don't know how to pull a hinge pin do ya ? Those are not NRP's , unless once the door is open there's a set screw on inner side of the knuckle.

Jeesh lousies , ya take a straight slot screw driver or old beater chisel and drive up on that top cap and the pin comes out:rolleyes:

Hoy vey:rolleyes: real estate agents :D So ya leave the window out while ya walked Lucky , how cold is it in CS?

PMJ is right who else but Joe could get 70 plus post outta being locked out ? Might be another whole thread :eek:

Don't loose that key again:cool:

I banged the hell out of the hinge with a hammer and a scewdriver it did not budge. Ask Phil I'm a bit of a pit-bull if those pins were removable they would have been removed. ;)

Then even if they did remove what then ? remove and replace the hinges as I came and went ? Seems like going out the window would be less work, even for a real estate agent ;)

Oh and its DAMN cold out but you cant put the window back in from the outside and I was only out walking Lucky for 15 minutes no biggy, as you can see it all worked out fine :D

[Joe ( Cold Spring on Hudson )]

It was a low window! Why did Joe have to hump the dog out the window, it should have been able to climb out on its own. Must be one of those city slicker dogs, I guess.:D

10 year old, fat, slightly arthritic, lazy, country dog that is getting used to living in the village. ;)

[Paul Girouard]

Could be they are NRP's , If you could have gotten the door off you could have either pushed the button on the lockset (some full mortise locks have buttons that control the locking aspects/ features ) or just taken the lock or back set out till you found the key.

BTW have you found the org. key:D , seems about the right time , now that the door open , for it to show up:rolleyes:

Jeesh lighten up rhino hide ;)

[Joe ( Cold Spring on Hudson )]

Lock set is like 1902 version no buttons to push.
As for lightening up :D I'm Sitting with a harpoon beer and a full price offer to purchase on a house I showed today and an open door, I'm a happy chappy :D But that original key would sure cap the day ;) :D

[The Bigfella]

Party at Joes!

Put some more beer in the fridge mate - we'll be right over

[JimM]

Joe
It would help Lucky's arthritice if you get the excess weight of him. Its also not good for his heart.

[Phil Heffernan]

Jibidiah

That was the funniest video I've watched in a month:D :D :D

Make it 2 months:D :D

Thanks for the gut buster...

Oh, and Nanoose's comment that you can't charge back the landlady;)

She's SO RIGHT...:D

PH

PS Glad you got your front door back

[Joe ( Cold Spring on Hudson )]

Joe
It would help Lucky's arthritice if you get the excess weight of him. Its also not good for his heart.

Now that I have full controle over his diet and exercise. I have to walk him now since I live in the village and cant just let him out the door so he can go raid the neighbors garbage ;) . Also I feed him special diet dog food and give him glucosamine and chondroitin supplements. He's actually been loosing weight and had way more exercise since my move. But thanks for the concern.

[Tristan]

Joe, I've said it before and I'll say it again, you are a real man. Hang in, things will get better. Everything will fall together one day and it will be like a spring day from then on.

[S.V. Airlie]

Now Joe.. as you have managed to get one key.. Did you by chance, get a second for backup...?

[geeman]

Suggest you have nother key made and hook it on the dogs collar,I doubt he's as apt to lose it as you are LOL
Or, I always carry a spare key in my wallet,,,,,,,,

[willmarsh3]

Oh, great!

Now I have this image of poor Lucky Thar Dog spreadeagled against the window casing while Joe is trying to multi-task pushing with one arm and holding his cellphone at arm's length with the other to video the scene!

Oh and the blackberry to post to the WBF :) ROFL

Will

[Henning 4148]

Ah, so this is what a deleted message looks like.

Well, as deleted before, the solution appeared a bit tame - I mean, buying new keys tends to work, but ... . After all I've seen on TV in westerns and krimis, I had thought in America you just opened doors with a gun shot ... ;-)

The video is nice though!

[Bruce Hooke]

Man, You and Lucky have that in and out the window system DOWN. You could almost live like that, but I'm glad you got the door open.

By the way, for future reference I think those may be loose pin hinges. One end may just be a decorative cap. It can take some work to get the pin started on its way out...

[Paul Girouard]

[quote=Bruce Hooke;1483734
By the way, for future reference I think those may be loose pin hinges. One end may just be a decorative cap. It can take some work to get the pin started on its way out...[/quote

They'd come out if I was there! :) There could be a set screw on the inner barrel side , that holds the pin in , they are called NRP's Non removalable Pins, it's a moot point now but yes those pins will come out the pitbull in Joe is just a weak puppy,:eek: :D few 3 and I have about bashed the heck out of the "how to" , if I was rich I'd fly back and pull those pins just to show Joe how to:rolleyes: And to meet the Baldheaded knome , crome dome from the hilltop Hudson river valley, or how ever Dingo with the lingo puts it :D

This thread should be dead , but as we know "It's all about Joe!":D

[geeman]

Open doors with shotguns?????? huh? You have any idea how much shotgun rounds cost???????????????????

[jack grebe]

Wait till Lucky Dog starts scratching on the window everytime he want out:D

[Joe ( Cold Spring on Hudson )]

Wait till Lucky Dog starts scratching on the window everytime he want out:D

Little chance of that ;)
If you notice in the video the funniest part is as soon as soon as Lucky Dog sees me going for the window he slinks away :D :D :D

[Paul Pless]

Hey, now that you got new keys, have you found the old one?

[Joe ( Cold Spring on Hudson )]

Hey, now that you got new keys, have you found the old one?

Nope, even though thats what you would expect eh ?;) :D

[Nanoose]

Suggest you have nother key made and hook it on the dogs collar,I doubt he's as apt to lose it as you are LOL
Or, I always carry a spare key in my wallet,,,,,,,,

Around YOUR neck, on a chain!!! :)...or maybe in the glove box of your car.

[Ed Harrow]

Good entertainment - good on you Joe, almost as good as some of your txt messages (well at least one of them).

Good on you, making lemonaid out of lemons.

[Paul Pless]

Around YOUR neck, on a chain!!! :)...or maybe in the glove box of your car.

...or maybe Joe could start wearing a couple of those chain lanyards from his belt to wallet on one side and from his belt to his key on the other side.

[Paul Girouard]

Lock set is like 1902 version no buttons to push.
;) :D

Joe age of the lock set is not indicative of the button features , here's a lock set carbon dated to the late 1800 / 1900 between 1896 / 1908 , as close as our carbon dating can pin it down at The Girouard institute of lock set technology,:D

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b299/PEG688/sept17001-1.jpg



http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b299/PEG688/sept17002-1.jpg


As you can see this lock set has the push buttons , it also takes two keys , one for the latch or backset as it's called today and one for the deadbolt part of the lock.

As you can see we no longer keep Prince Albert in the can , but we do store his keys in one :D

As a purveyor of older homes you could "wow" potential clients with this sort of worthless knowledge :)

We now return you to the normal bilge rhetoric:rolleyes: :D

[Joe ( Cold Spring on Hudson )]

Paul here is your Video Response ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I75zNLm5uJI

The end has a fun little stop motion video I made with Tess who is staying over with me tonight. Its very cool . Enjoy

[Paul Girouard]

Joe never doubted your lock lacked buttons , I was just pointing out that some do. At the time , way back yesterday, when you where locked out I had "Hopes" that your lock may have had some controlling buttons.

If you could have gotten the door off by pulling the hinge pins we / you coulda been golden. It was a long shot as I think I mentioned , we all know more about old locks now than 24 hrs' ago.

Hi to Tess from a boatie boat:) Nice video BTW. My own video what a honor!:D

Jessh this NE / Indy game is good , 34 -31 Pats at the 2 min. warning:)

[Stiletto]

Joe, it's good to see you are back to being your old self.( or nearly so).

What I really want to know is did you really throw away the phone number of that nice looking woman with the dog that you posted a picture of?;)

[Joe ( Cold Spring on Hudson )]

Yup

[Paul Girouard]

Hmmm, would you be willing to part with that set?

Humm never thought of that! The dead bolt key is missing , I'm pretty sure and there is no shaft nor knobs , and one exterior excussion is missing , other wise she cherry:D

I have no idea what it worth , and it was my grandfather's stash so I'm sort of connected to it in some weird way.

What ya give for it knowing all that? And I think more importantly to me would you be using it on your own place or fixing it up for resale ?? I may have tipped my hand here , to damned honest:(

Edited to add:

Acutually it has both the interior and exterior excussion , it was made by ,

Russell & Erwin MFG.

New Britain , Conn.

[Bruce Taylor]

"Hi boaty boats"...circle circle dot dot...I'm smiling so hard here the top of my head's going to fall off! :D :D :D

[Paul Girouard]

Joe is a HOOT ain't he :D Ya gotta like the guy even if ya don't want to :D :rolleyes:

WHO else can get 114 plus post outta being locked out of his place ????

[Paul Pless]

Joe, has anyone ever mentioned that you look much taller on video?:p

[Joe ( Cold Spring on Hudson )]

Joe, has anyone ever mentioned that you look much taller on video?:p

Only when Im co-staring with a 8-3/4 year old ;)

Oh and Paul you like me you really like me ??? :D :D :D

[Paul Pless]

Oh and Paul you like me you really like me ??? :D :D :D

I do man, I love you man. I used to think you were an asshole but hey what can I say, you give as good as you take!:D

[Bruce Taylor]

Boaty boats...ROFL. Tell Tess she's a star!

[Paul Girouard]

Oh and Paul you like me you really like me ??? :D :D :D


Sure Joe , not in a weird way, but your interesting , ah , person. In a weird way;) Part putz , part kid , part grown up , and proud of it all as well:D

Heck I wouldn't do all the crap I did fer jes any old Joe :D So ya your interesting and in real life we would be pretty good friends / sailing buds maybe , I think, I might have to work thru the realtor part :rolleyes: :D

[Paul Pless]

Oh that comment was for Paul Girouard?

ah well, I still stand by what I said:D :D

[Paul Girouard]

I do man, I love you man. I used to think you were an asshole but hey what can I say, you give as good as you take!:D

Ya and what Pless said as well :D

[Phil Heffernan]

I do man, I love you man. I used to think you were an asshole but hey what can I say, you give as good as you take!:D

Wait a second here...It has been voted on the WBF that he IS an ass****, don't try and weasel out of it

:D

Great stop action Joe

PH

[Paul Girouard]

Incomplete, it's a tough call. A missing escutcheon plate diminishes value and is most valuable to someone with parts or machining ability.

never throw them out.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Escutcheon now there's a word a guys got to memorize, I never can get close enough for spell check to find it:rolleyes: :D

I do have both , I edited my post . No knobs and shafts and no deadbolt key , I'll recheck the ones in the Prince Albert can tomorrow.


I know I'll never use it , heck I've had it in the twenty year draw for 25 years :D


It is a very nice lock , lots of engraving etc on the escutcheons ;) which look to be brass. They don't makum like that any more.

PM me, if your interested, we might be able to work something out. Wouldn't wanta get Scotted for making a sale on forum ;)

[Paul Fitzgerald]

Enjoyed the video Joe, and you threw in an open house tour as well!

[Joe ( Cold Spring on Hudson )]

FOUND IT !!!:D

Went to work out at the gym this afternoon and one of the personal trainers comes up to me and says I saw this key fall out of your pocket.

Cool now I can lock my door and I have a spare. Fitting end to a fun thread.

[Hwyl]

Yeh, check the gym too.

Will people ever listen to me

[Paul Girouard]

[quote=Joe ( Cold Spring on Hudson );1488377]
one of the personal trainers comes up to me and says I saw this key fall out of your pocket.

quote]

One would / could wonder WHY he didn't say something when he saw it fall out:rolleyes: :D PT not to bright , eh!;)

[Paul Girouard]

Will people ever listen to me


One word , NO :D

[Joe ( Cold Spring on Hudson )]

Sorry I did not mention that I had raced back to the gym after the movies with Tess and checked as well as checked the front desk. No one knew about a key. But I did check ;)

To be honest I was running out so fast that the guy tuned around after picking it up and I was gone. He had been holding on to it cause he sees me a lot.

Anyway I'm happy he remembered to come up to me today ;)

[Paul Girouard]

Sorry I did not mention that I had raced back to the gym after the movies with Tess and checked as well as checked the front desk. No one knew about a key. But I did check ;)

To be honest I was running out so fast that the guy tuned around after picking it up and I was gone. He had been holding on to it cause he sees me a lot.

Anyway I'm happy he remembered to come up to me today ;)


Ah as Paul Harvey likes to say , "The rest of the storey!" Glad you got the key back , now MAKE A SPARE! :D

[John Most]

I see somebody had Prince Albert in a can.:D

[jack grebe]

Ok, now that this has a happy ending, I'm gonna say my first thought when this came up


BONE HEAD:rolleyes: :D

[Mrleft8]

The guy was just holding it so he'd have a reason to talk to you Joe.....He's HITTING ON YOU! Invite him over for fondue or something! ;)

[Paul Girouard]

The guy was just holding it so he'd have a reason to talk to you Joe.....He's HITTING ON YOU! Invite him over for fondue or something! ;)

Aways a lil "twist" eh Lefty:D

[Mrleft8]

Always.

[Domesticated_Mr. Know It All]

Great video Joe.
New place looks great.

[ishmael]

There's a great Sufi wisdom story I'll try to recall.

A man has lost his key, and he's searching around outside his door. A friend comes along and asks,

-What's up, what are you looking for? The man explains, and the friend takes up the search. After maybe ten minutes, after searching pretty well, the friend asks,

-Where did you last have this key?

-Oh, last time I had it was inside the house.

-Well, what are we doing looking out here?

-The light is better out here.