18 million

[S.V. Airlie]

the amount owed by UN delegates for parking tickets in NYC.. Not counting interest... Wonder if the city will ever see that money...?

[P.I. Stazzer-Newt]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/4352520.stm

[S.V. Airlie]

P.I.. intertesting article... I see a difference between parking tickets and taxes though... I don't consider parking tickets to be a tax...
I'll be curious to see what happens in London... I must say, having bicycled through the streets of London on mant occasions, I can understand the crackdown...

at lerast the drivers are more friendly to bicyclists in London than in NYC....LOL

[P.I. Stazzer-Newt]

It's not about a tax - It's about the congestion charge - a fee payable in the same way as that for any toll road.

[Popeye]

is this about diplomatic immunity ..

[S.V. Airlie]

yes.... I would think so... popeye...At least that is the claim of the offenders who have received tickets.
Now the city has set aside parking spots for diplomats.. and it has gotten better but.... still...
P.I.. gonna go back and re-read the thread... Is this applicable to every car/taxi in London? Naw, don't answer that... I'll go back to the article...
No.. just diplomats... I think to be a just fee, it should be applicable to everyone driving in the city...
Certainly anyone parking illegally in NYC gets a ticket... doesn't matter who it is... Well, perhaps not the police.. but..

[Popeye]

well , then , stop ticketing the diplomatic and delegates cars , give 'em a sticker or a window pass or somethiing

furin license plates don't even get parking tickets here , it's a courtesy thing , and visitors can save their receipts for any purchases they make and get a full sales tax refund , it only makes sense

[S.V. Airlie]

popeye..They already have plates.. I think the issue is the abuse of the priviledge.....The Sec. General has asked those at the UN to take public transit...But I don't think many will...
Heck, I'm still getting over the fact that the Am. Embasy in London has 150 cars...

[P.I. Stazzer-Newt]

The fee is payable by every-one driving in London - Taxis are a special case covered by the Hackney Carriage office.

There are get-outs for Zero-pollution vehicles and motorcycles - but by and large - if you want to drive in London you will have to pay.

[huisjen]

Have the cars towed to a chop shop in Nude Jersey where the boys wid no necks will part them out quiet like.

Dan

[Popeye]

say , there's an idea , luxury suv's ... biggg ticket


he he he

[P.I. Stazzer-Newt]

say , there's an idea , luxury suv's ... biggg ticket
he he he

I believe that's a-comin'. (https://tfl-cc.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/tfl_cc.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_sid=lkhN6Omi&p_lva=&p_faqid=2689&p_created=1163609426&)

But there is a web page for exceptions
http://www.cclondon.com/exemptions.shtml


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Holy braille traffic signals, Batman, whatever next.

[GregW]

18 million is pocket change.
Here in Toronto
The city hopes to collect $35 million in unpaid parking tickets, along with another $165 million for driving offences.
Now that's serious money!

[WillW]

-- and how many billions does the U.S. government owe the U.N. in unpaid contributions/levies?

[marwesmed]

I don't think that we need the UN but if we have to have one , lets move it to Greenland.

[B_B]

from Wikipedia:
In New York City (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York%2C_New_York), the home of the United Nations (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations) Headquarters (and hence thousands of diplomats), protests against parking violations by diplomatic vehicles have a certain quixotic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_Quixote) quality. Nonetheless, the City regularly protests to the Department of State (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Department_of_State) about non-payment of parking tickets due to diplomatic status. Diplomatic missions have their own regulations, but many require their staff to pay any fines due for parking violations. A 2006 study by two economists found that there was a significant correlation between home-country corruption (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption) (as measured by Transparency International (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transparency_International)) and unpaid parking fines; nonetheless, approximately 30 countries (or 20%) had fewer than one unpaid fine per diplomat over a five year period, and 20 had none at all. Six countries had in excess of 100 violations per diplomat.[8] (http://www.usc.edu/schools/business/FBE/seminars/papers/AE_4-28-06_FISMAN-parking.pdf)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diplomatic_immunity

[B_B]

compare this:
In January of 1997, Gueorgui Makharadze (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gueorgui_Makharadze), the deputy ambassador of the Republic of Georgia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia_%28country%29) in Washington caused an accident that injured four people and killed a sixteen-year-old girl. He was found to have a blood-alcohol level of 0.15, but released from custody because he was a diplomat. The U.S. government asked the Georgian government to waive his immunity, which they did and Makharadze was tried and convicted of manslaughter by the U.S. and sentenced to seven to twenty-one years in prison[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diplomatic_immunity#_note-0).

to these:
On December 3, 2004, a marine guard for the American embassy in Bucharest, Romania (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bucharest%2C_Romania), allegedly drunk, collided with a taxi and killed the popular Romanian musician Teo Peter[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diplomatic_immunity#_note-1). Marine Christopher Van Goethem did not obey a traffic signal to stop which resulted in the collision of his Ford Expedition with the taxi the rock star was travelling in. Van Goethem's blood alcohol content was estimated at 0.09 from a breathalyser (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breathalyser) test, but he refused to give a blood sample for further testing and left for Germany (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germany) before charges could be filed in Romania. The Romanian government requested the American government lift his immunity, which it has refused to do

In Vladivostok (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladivostok), Russia, U.S. Consul General Douglas Kent was involved in a car accident on October 27, 1998, that left a young man, Alexander Kashin, crippled. Kent refused a blood test in accordance with U.S. Embassy policies, and immunity was not waived; Kent subsequently left the country.

more from:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diplomatic_immunity (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diplomatic_immunity)

[WillW]

Nice one, Braam.

[John Meachen]

I saw the thread title and wondered if the work Jamie had in mind for the boat had expanded somewhat.I was wrong.Perhaps number of tickets could be another cost equivalence formula for comparing costs of things in different locations.

[jbelow]

The UN needs to be moved to Canada .