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wallacethegreenmonster
12-21-2006, 08:29 PM
Sorry to bother everyone with this but have kinf of a barrage of questions. I have done some woodworking and built wagons and such and can do most stuff to repair a two stroke outboard but now want to take on the Lumber Yard Skiff for which I have the plans. The plans look pretty good but was wondering about the following:

-I don't mind if this project takes years and I want to use as few or no power tools if possible so does anyone have a suggested list of the tools I exactly need? What would be a good handsaw and where to get it from, clamps, hand planers, protractors to measure angles, etc, you name it.(my buddy was giving me crap the other day saying people made much more complicated boats years ago with far more rudimentary tools). I will use a power drill for all the fasteners though and maybe a power sander.

-anyone know of a good source of tools, plywood, fasteners in the eastern Massachusetts area?

-fiberglass bottom versus just paint it?

Thanks for any help that can be provided. WGM

wallacethegreenmonster
12-22-2006, 02:00 AM
seems like a reasonable a bunch of questions i put up on the "building" forum section. i don't know where the "how to" section is and i have looked. so any help with the questions i did pose would be nice, i.e. what type of saws and where to get them, 3M 5200 versus sikaflex, whether to order fasteners from Jamestown or buy them at Lowe's. Thanks a ton.

Stiletto
12-22-2006, 02:13 AM
Jim wasnt replying to you, he was replying to other forum members.

Weclome to the forum.

If you scroll down the building/repair main page you will see a green dot with a black arrow in it. Have a look there, it covers a lot of things.

You can buy good older tools on Ebay for not a lot of money, there are posts here on rehabbing older tools.

I'm on the other side of the world from you so cant help much with suppliers etc.
Check out what I've suggested and post again.

Good luck with your project.:)

StevenBauer
12-22-2006, 08:33 AM
Have you been to the "Getting Started in Boats" section of the WB site? They have a forum set up just for new builders of this very boat. The designers themselves will answer your questions. Come up to Portland in March for the Maine Boatbuilder's Show for inspiration. :)

Steven

Bruce Hooke
12-22-2006, 09:11 AM
anyone know of a good source of tools, plywood, fasteners in the eastern Massachusetts area?

Tools:
Woodcraft Supply Co., Woburn, MA http://www.woodcraft.com

If you are south of Boston, another option for tools is Beaver Woodworking in Brockton http://www.beaverwoodworking.com/ but their hand tool selection is not as good as Woodcraft's.

Plywood:
Boulter Plywood, Somerville, MA http://www.boulterplywood.com/

Various hardwood lumber yards, such as H.K. Hardwoods in Lakeville and Downes & Reader in Stoughton can, I'm fairly certain, order in marine plywood if they don't have what you need in stock and don't feel like making the trip into Somerville. If you go that route make sure you know EXACTLY what you want. Neither of these places is likely to be that familiar with marine plywood so they won't know the difference between, say, the type of marine plywood that has thin outer veneers and marine plywood with thick outer veneers. The latter is better for structural uses.

Fasteners:
One option is Jamestown Distributors in Bristol, RI http://www.jamestowndistributors.com It might well make sense to mail order from them rather than drive all the way down to Bristol unless you live near Bristol already.

I think C.G.Edwards, in Boston, carries bronze fasteners. http://www.cgedwards.com/

outofthenorm
12-22-2006, 09:30 AM
Welcome WGM. Don't worry about getting answers. There will be more than a few along any minute. The best suggestion is to start searching the archives here. There is some amazing stuff to be found on tools, materials, glues and everything else from metal foundry work to fishing gear and electronics. Use the SEARCH and put in terms like "bottom paint", tools, epoxy, and "best wood for" just for starters. Pay close attention to the posts of Bob Smalser on tools and wood. That alone could consume days of your time. In the meantime, although I can't help you with specific suppliers in your area, I've always had good luck dealing with Hamilton Marine. Not for lumber, but for fastenings and gear. Check out their website. But hang in, local knowledge will chime in sooner or later.

- Norm

donald branscom
12-22-2006, 09:37 AM
Use power tools and save your hands.
After you saw 30 or 40 boards I think you will be ready for a power saw.

You don't have to use fiberglass on your boat at all.

good luck on your projuct.

Thorne
12-22-2006, 09:42 AM
I think the LYS article listed the required tools, but I would just get the plans, then start building in the way and order described. Buy tools as you need 'em.

If you feel the need for more instruction and/or training, you might consider building one of the better-documented boats offered for sale by commercial designers like Arch Davis, John Welsford or Ian Oughtred. Arch has DVD's, full-size patterns, and is known for excellent phone support to builders. And our hosts offer a nice selection of books on building specific boats -- like "Building Catherine", etc...


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sv Lorelei
12-22-2006, 09:55 AM
If you're going to use a hand saw, you'll likely need a variety, but if there was one I'd want if I could only pick one it's the combination Japanese pull saw. You can get them in most woodworking supply houses and I think even Tru Value has a couple available. Blade has a very narrow kerf and is flexible so doing mild curves and angled cuts that you'll have to plane or sand down can be cut closer to the line. Get yourself a good block plane. And what Thorne said start building and what you need will become pretty apparent.

rbgarr
12-22-2006, 10:27 AM
The tools and material list for the LY Skiff is shown here, now that the magazine insert is available online:

http://www.gettingstarted-digital.com/gettingstarted/2006_vol1/

Good luck to those building the design. They are good, simple, all-around useful boats.