Pictures of 3rd Dory Concept Model / Feedback Please

[Frederick Bolton]

Ok guys and gals,

I redesigned the model again based on more research and feedback. the aft rocker is gone and the bow has a gentle 2 degrees upsweep. I appologise for optical illusion in the picture, but I can tell you the bottom is flat from the fourth frame back. Here is that picture.

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The motorwell is redesigned to accomodate a larger motor if I should ever get the urge. The well sides are slanted to the same angle as the side flair. This gives me a nice look, makes the bottom 12 inches wide and the top 24 inches wide. Measured sweep/turn radiuses of 9 hp to a 35 hp at the local boat shop and this will accomodate either. Currently I will be using a 9.9 hp merc. Here is that picture.

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The bow and shear look good to me and I reduced the amount of cover on the front bow hook area. I am also thinking about leaving the gunnwales uncapped to reduce weight above the balance point. Besides, I think there may be some useful advantages to the open style. Here is that picture.

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The last picture is from stern to bow showing the open gunnwales and the general shape froma top view. Here is that picture.

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Sorry about not cleaning up the pictures a little better and croping out some of the background, but I have been very busy trying to get ready to go visit the inlaws for the holidays. I didn't put in the floor or twarts and some other details as I have already done that on the other models and that part won't change. Just wanted to get the basic hull shape with a straight bottom aft and very little upsweep in the bow.

When I return after Christmas I will begin to build the bottom. Probably northern white pine. Would love to make the frames out of spruce but haven't been able to locate any. Might get Southern Yello pine, but I am concerned about the weight. However, the difference between DF and SYP is 1.7 to 2.2 lbs per board foot. Might be able to reduct the size and maintain the weight balance. Havent decided yet.

Anyway, anxious to get started. Look forward to your feedback.

Frederick.

[pipefitter]

I like it. I am still visualizing lapstrake or atleast some spray rails on the front. Also,for the motorwell clearance issue,as I assume that you have made it wider at top to clear an outboard's motor cowling? I would think it nicer looking to have the sides of the motorwell plumb and parallel about 3/4ths of the way up and then mitre away where the arc of the hole in the stern starts.It could also be shelfed out with a slight rise to create a splash well on either side in the event that the motor kicks up some water inside on a hard turn or such. Love the top view and the front view. It looks like it would work. Seems like aft mounted fuel tank,battery and outboard would make it sit right at rest.At any rate,I just looked a little and it's just ideas more than saying anything is wrong. It's your boat and what you like is most important.I bet it would look even better painted.

[Frederick Bolton]

Thanks Paul and Boyles,

Ya never know about how these things will turn out, but I think I am where I want to be in relation to design. Time will tell, and at least I am comfortable. As far as the motor well Paul I think you will see why I am choosing this design when it is completely finished. There are a few trick details I havent modeled in yet, but I know I will utilize.

My big issue now is material. Sure wanted some dimentional spruce, but may not get it. But, you build with what ya got. Or at least that is what the old timers say. No whining allowed. :-)

[emichaels]

That looks like fun ! Very salty looking boat.

Eric

[Spokaloo]

I guess I was bored....

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in order.

E

[Frederick Bolton]

Boyles,

I agree about oak or spruce,

I haven't given up on my search for sitka spruce. I can't get a local supplier to acquire it, but I may be able to get it from the same company I am getting my Okume Marine plywood from. Seems odd that I could find it and local suppliers can't?

Anyway, it would be best as it is lighter, shrinks less and is almost as strong as Oak.

To Spokaloo,

Thanks for inserting the pictures. I appreciate it very much. I have to figure out how to do that in my spare time.

Merry Christmas Everone.

[paladin]

Frederick....where are you located...there's no info on your profile....
I was going to suggest fir for the frames as some very fine old growth fir is available in Virginia, and a load of honduras mahogany just went to near Seattle for milling........

[pipefitter]

If you are in CO., I remember there being an abundance of nice, straight D-fir in every building center out there. Even the studs in the houses were DF.I remember it well for wringing the heads off of the streaker drywall screws in all the houses I hung out there.I remember one particular time where it had happened to me about 8x in a row,my older brother finding humor in it and me shoving a still running makita screwgun through both sides of the wall as it exited into the living room on the other side hanging through the hole it made by it's cord.Some of that DF is really hard.I would rather use that than oak.

[PaulC]

Your models are always extremely handsome. I wish I had your modeling skills.

[Frederick Bolton]

Sorry about the lack of info on the profile, I guess I better get to that.

I am on the western side of Colorado. And Paul, you are correct about the douglas fir here, very good quality. That may be what I use. And, you are correct about it getting hard as hell once it cures out. Can't hardly drive a nail in it. Makes remodeling fun.

[Spokaloo]

I can get you some sitka if your really hankering for it, our local lumber specialty place has been pimping me to buy it because they know of my boat habit (who wouldnt, just received 23 sheets of okume!). Otherwise, check up in Denver when the snow starts to recede, I bet you can find a specialist that has it. If transportation is an issue, you can always get on craigslist and barter for someone to transport it for you.

E

[Rick-Mi]

Nice revision Frederick although I'm not sure I understand about the reason for the flared motor well.

[GregH]

I know little-to-nothing about boat design, so I'm the perfect candidate to give advice. Seriously though, my concern would be about adequate bouyancy at the stern. The motor well removes some displacement, while at the same time the weight of the motor (and possibly a gas tank or two?) could aggrevate the situation. The HandyBilly design (and others) has a similar arrangement, without any apparent problems, but just offering this as a point of observation.