Sharpie

[ahp]

Santa brought me a copy of Reuel Parker's Sharpie Book and a set of plans for the 19 ft Sharpie derived from the Ohio Pound Net Sharpie. It looks very interesting. Has anyone built and/or sailed this boat?

[Leon m]

Originally posted by ahp:
Has anyone built and/or sailed this boat?Guess not. ;)

[sr. jigaboni]

The best idea is to use the search feature. People have talked about, at least, the 19 footer on the forum before. I recall the guy saying he loved it, but it could stand a few inches of freeboard. The post included a picture of his boat floating in ankle deep water.

There was also a discussion of the 14 footer from the book. I built the Mississippi yawl from the book, but with a cross planked bottom and no centerboard. I just row it around. Well, actually, I'm replacing some bottom planks right now, but I do likey. Real tiddly till you sit, like a dory.

I can't make digital images, but I can send you photos. Good luck with the search and the build(s)!

[John Laurino]

Hi, I'm building Parker's Chesapeake Bay Crabbing Skiff, and i can vouch for the sides first construction not being that bad. Worked for me anyway. Any thing in particular you were wondering that might cross over to a double ender?

[donald branscom]

I have built a sharpie and sailed it on San Francisco Bay for 5 years.
No problem. it doesn.t pound when sailing because when it's heeled it presents a V shape to the waves.

Going to windward seemed fastest with the center board 1/2 depth.

You know most modern racing boats are nothing more than sharpies with slightly rounded bilges. You cant improve a design thats been around almost 200 years.


Don

[Wild Wassa]

Last season I raced in a 6m Australian Lightweight Sharpie on Saturdays, late in the season (Sundays were spent relaxing in Flying Fifteens). She was 20mm end grain Balsa, all up only 90kg, she was beautifully made.

I'd come off the boat totally drained ... I was the main sheet hand. The Sharpie didn't like the fluky conditions found here in the mountains. You just had to look at the boat and she would overpower ... she was a handfull. Australian Lightweight Sharpies like thick even breezes. The boat would not allow the crew to relax in our conditions.

The guy on the trapeze was the only one who really enjoyed himself on the boat ... being out of the boat most of the time. The Skipper and I were just battered work horses. She was a powerfull boat, many a B14 skiff was left wanting in her wake and when the spinnaker was up ... I could catch my breath.

I found the boat to be far too narrow to be comfortable, a bit of rocker could have helped. An Australian Lightweight Sharpie is 3 yardstick points slower than a Flying Dutchman and the same yardstick as a 29er.

'Savage Mood' swings ... on Lake Burley Griffin. Photographer unknown.


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Warren.

[Thorne]

My problem with pounding in flat-bottomed boats (or very shallow V-bottom) is when motoring to windward -- think California Delta sailing. Then they pound, pound, pound --- survivable if well-built but a very wet way to travel.

;- )

[ahp]

Thanks for the inputs.

[Klaus]

My problem with pounding in flat-bottomed boats (or very shallow V-bottom) is when motoring to windward -- think California Delta sailing. Then they pound, pound, pound --- survivable if well-built but a very wet way to travel.

;- )

That is exactly why I leave the sails up for motorsailing when the cicumstances warrant the use of the iron sail. However, as the sharpies get bigger and are ballasted (mine is the NIS26) the 'pounding' is nowhere near as bad as some here are to let us believe. Just the occasional 'slam' as she come off a wave at the wrong time. I would imagine the average 26' vee bottom boat to be as wet or wetter than mine when motoring to windward in a seaway.
I guess there are flat bottom sharpies and then there are NIS flat bottom sharpies.
Klaus

[Honda_Shadow]

That's a FANTASTIC book! I've got the same book as well as the daft ambition to someday build "Idie," a 20 footer from the N.C. sounds. I've not built one yet, but of all the research I've done they are fantastic boats. I'm originally from Morehead City, NC and the Sharpie has a long history there as an indestructable work boat. The N.C. Maritime Museum in Beaufort, NC is a great place to start for some research as they have a boat building facility open to the public right across the street and can get you in contact with some local builders. http://www.ah.dcr.state.nc.us/sections/maritime/

[Thorne]

Klaus -

My experience is mostly with 21' - 14' boats, some with really flat foresections. Downwind performance is great, upwind not so hot.

Sailing the California Delta often means motoring into 30+ knot headwinds for hours -- not really possible to put up the sails in those conditions, particularly when in a narrow channelized river.

[Frank E. Price]

Pounding is one of those relative things. Pounding in a lightly built flat-bottomed plywood boat can be severe, even when tied up if the stem is out of the water. But one of the first things I noticed when I launched my 18' sharpie skiff five years ago was it's stability and lack of bobbling motion or drum-like pounding. It's traditionally built and displaces at least 700 pounds; I reckon that explains the difference. Also stable and easy to sail if not over canvassed. You'll have to figure out for yourself what "over canvassed" means in your boat.

Frank

[dougr]

as the sharpies get bigger and are ballasted (mine is the NIS26) the 'pounding' is nowhere near as bad as some here are to let us believe
I guess there are flat bottom sharpies and then there are NIS flat bottom sharpies.
Klaus[/quote]

at last i have found an NIS 26 builder/sailor. Do you know of any in Canada?? how long have you had yours? is it sheathed in glass? masts aluminium or could they be built-up wood? difficult parts of construction? I have seen a reference to the hull construction being 'cold-molded', a phrase with which i am not too familiar...Do you have any photos of yours in various stages of construction?
thanks

[leaotis]

I actually built one. It does "pound" when going to weather in a chop but I don't notice it much anymore. You can build a different sharpie with ballast and more sail area but then you lose out on the ease of trailering and launching and you’ll need a bigger car to pull it.

It took me a year of spare time to build but I reckon I could build a second one in half the time.

See link below for build photos.

Cheers,

Mack

[J. Dillon]

Nice batch of construction pix. in your album You did a beautiful job.:D I hope you post some more , especially of her sailing.:D

On my sharpie i had to remove most of the aft dead wood as it slowed down tacking some . With about a 6" skeg "Carrianne" is much better.

JD

[SBrookman]

Ok so it's 19", the next one will be 19'. At least that's a plan.

A newbie here, trying his first picture post:

http://www.otterwater.com/Sharpie/OhioSharpie3.jpg

[erster]

Sharpies,,,,,,No balast, built traditional with a skipjack style vee entry and proper sail planning, the boat will slide across the water effortlessly without pounding. Works for me, anyway :) Of course, I am more interested in no spillage of the fine wines, too.;)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v356/Bateau1/DSC01235.jpg


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v356/Bateau1/DSC01237.jpg

[Andrew]

Erster, I believe I saw you sailing past the community college last nite. What a great sight, made my day, thanks.

[erster]

Erster, I believe I saw you sailing past the community college last nite. What a great sight, made my day, thanks.
I took it over to the city to adjust the centerboard rigging. I set the sails on that boat, kicked back and for about four hours made sure all the most recent stress was gone before I came home. I may just be headed out in a little while for the banks if it doesn't blow up too badly. :cool: I like trailerable boats.
I saw a group gathered outside the south doors and wondered if they thought it was some old fella that had been lost at sea about the turn of last century, that used to sail those waters.

A fellow fisherman came along that I knew from days gone by in his plastic fantastic, and shot a couple of shots for me. It will not be until July that the new sails will be done. But these seems to be fine for now, from the 20 footer.

[J. Dillon]

S. Brookman,.

Nice looking model. :DThat's where I started with mine. A model first then the real thing. I hope to see some images of yours a building in the future. Good luck.:)


Mike I'm glad you shared the above images with the rest of the forum.:D

Less politics, more boats. LPMP:D;)

JD