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sdowney717
10-31-2006, 03:29 PM
wooden boats are too old, leaky eyesores, rotten fungus infested termite eaten hulks, ecological nightmares full of oil and gas waiting to sink at the docks and they dont want them even in the marina. I mean serious prejudice. Plus they say only poor people own wooden boats and wont have the resources to properly maintain or fix them so they are a huge liability. They say if you could afford a proper boat it would be a glass boat.

Can you believe this is what a marina manger told me!
It is almost poetic

jack grebe
10-31-2006, 03:33 PM
It is almost poetic
more like pathetic:eek: when you go to a boat show, it's the wooden boats everyone is gawking at......not glass

Keith Wilson
10-31-2006, 03:53 PM
They weren't poor when they bought the wooden boats . . . ;)

Seriously, what a load of tripe.

Hughman
10-31-2006, 03:59 PM
That individual was only trying to deflect his profound ignorance of all things nautical. He should work in a cubicle.

paladin
10-31-2006, 04:16 PM
glass boats dunno got no soul.....

Dan McCosh
10-31-2006, 04:18 PM
Heard a similar tirade about new boat owners. They finance them, says the guy, can barely make the payments, and have no money left over for maintenance or needed repairs. When they get short of cash, they let the banks forclose.... You can fill in the rest.

bamamick
10-31-2006, 04:21 PM
I would imagine that many of us have. When my big boat was brought up here from key West the guy at the marina would not let them unload it until I had signed a waiver stating that they were not responsible for any damage done whatsoever. The manager also told me that if he had known that my boat was wood that he would never had agreed to allow it to be unloaded at that marina, and told me in no uncertain terms that I was not welcome there. I guess that it happens.

If I am not mistaken my schooner is the only woodie in the marina where she stays, but this particular marina is happy to have us. We are pretty much a topic of constant conversation, and it seems that most of the people in our marina look on us as a kind of mascot. Man, if I was single :). The ladies seem to like the old schooner.

Mickey Lake

brad9798
10-31-2006, 04:35 PM
Terrible attitude that harbor master has ... but he does have a point ... at least somewhat and partially.

There are a half dozen woodenboats in my marina that will eventually sink due to deferred maintenance ... too many folks have a throw-away attitude with them in my experience ... use them until they need major work ... then they get dumped one way or the other.

Very sad.

Woodenboats make cheap homes for old drunks ... lost souls, etc. I can think of quite few exceptions ... like the one guy that bought a nice Owens Grenada m/y ... 12 years later, she sank in her slip two years ago.

Unfortunately stories like that stick with marinas longer than stories of how nice my boat looks and many others in my marina ...

I understand both sides ... and there are wonderful glass boats out there, I just don't want to have one!

dmede
10-31-2006, 05:21 PM
From what I've witnessed in Bay Area marinas.. that Marina Manager is mostly RIGHT!


I don't know man, the most derelict boats at most of the Bay Area marinas I visit are usually fiberglass. I guess it could be because all the bad wooden ones sunk! :D At my buddies marina in Redwood City the worst boat is an FG sailor parked right next to his wood Century cruiser. I guess if you have to have an FG neighbor he might as well make you look good.

I suppose thats the real difference. FG owners are just as likely, if not more so, to be bad owners and abandon thier boats. But in most cases this does not result in as quick a deteroration as it does on wood boats. An abandoned FG boat can float for years!

uncas
10-31-2006, 05:37 PM
It is too bad but I have to agree with the original post. I have been to a lot of yards where someone has brought in a wooden boat and basically left it. At one yard, the boat was left in the water for the winter.. normally okay but the owner did not communicate with the yard, the yard did not know what to do.. bubblers etc. and the owner wasn't paying the bills. Outcome, as the yard was afraid that the boat would sink.. it surrounded it with bubblers, covered it etc. and basically took care of it..
And yet, the paperwork to take that boat for lack of payment of the outstanding bills is like putting one's head in a lion's mouth.. A pain in the transom.

Concordia...41
10-31-2006, 05:42 PM
only poor people own wooden boats

Well, maybe after we've owned them for a few years.... :rolleyes:

uncas
10-31-2006, 05:44 PM
Well, I for one ain't gonna tell ya what I have spent over nine years on a wooden boat. On the other side of the coin.. A wooden boat is finest kind...
And the money was worth it....

Ken Hutchins
10-31-2006, 05:50 PM
It is sad thet they are picking on us wooden boat owners when most yards have a collection of junk fiberglass boats also.

Peter Malcolm Jardine
10-31-2006, 06:09 PM
Yeah, poor old Dennis Connors having to suffer the later years of his sailing career with junk like Cotton Blossom. It must hurt.

S/V Laura Ellen
10-31-2006, 06:14 PM
At my club there are about a dozen woodies. Only one isn't kept up to reasonable standards. I know that when I was working on "Laura Ellen" at the club I had a never ending line of people checking up on me to ensure that it was done the right way. Not always agreement on the right way though.

uncas
10-31-2006, 06:18 PM
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid144/p29f712743a6d5dffbee82bf73e12c84b/f67e929a.jpg


Sorry.. I just had to post one last picture... Uncas one!!!!

Bob Adams
10-31-2006, 06:27 PM
It is the way of things. I am the only wood boat in my marina, I tried for years to get in. The owner saw me cruising by one day and invited me in. He saw my boat when I started restoring her 12 years or so ago. He was amazed he was the same boat. I could afford a glass boat if I wanted one. I don't want one. BTW, she looks MUCH better than the Hatteras that is my neighbor.

S/V Laura Ellen
10-31-2006, 06:30 PM
Sorry.. I just had to post one last picture... Uncas one!!!!

Posting a few more would not be out of line!:rolleyes:

uncas
10-31-2006, 06:34 PM
Naw..plenty out there Allan.... somewhere...

But I never was kicked out of a marina...LOL

Peter Malcolm Jardine
10-31-2006, 06:37 PM
There are 3 woodies in my marina. A 36 S&S sloop in spanish cedar, my boat, (36 foot CC Challenger) and a 41 foot CC Constellation Salon. The rest are frozen snot.

uncas
10-31-2006, 06:39 PM
but then again, Allan.. here is another one with a few formites on board...

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid192/p72ce131399c55822b6ecfc74fbbd7a11/f1a172ee.jpg