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R.I.Singer30
10-25-2006, 07:17 PM
I'm posting this to anyone who is still going out(JCSOH,etal) The winds are up and the water is cold.wear your PFD's.

N.Y. man dies after dinghy capsizes on Block Island


01:00 AM EDT on Wednesday, October 25, 2006



BLOCK ISLAND — A 53-year-old New York man died last weekend after waves stirred up by gusty winds swamped the dinghy he and a friend were trying to take back to a sailboat moored on the Great Salt Pond.
The police say Mark Gilligan, of Delhi, N.Y., and Lance DeMeo, 35, of Margaretville, N.Y., caught a ferry to the island Friday and then took a dinghy out to the Sonsy, a 30-foot sailboat owned by Gilligan’s brother that was moored on the Great Salt Pond. The two men returned to the shore for shopping and dinner that night, Lt. Troy Reynolds said. Between midnight and 1 a.m. Saturday, they tried to take the dinghy back to the boat, which had gotten loose from its mooring, Reynolds said.
As they searched for the Sonsy, the dinghy became swamped, landing the men in the water. The pond was extremely choppy as winds gusted up to 50 mph. The two men attempted to swim to shore for close to an hour. DeMeo began pulling his friend in after he noticed that he could no longer keep up, Reynolds said. Once on land, DeMeo called the police about 3 a.m. from an unoccupied house.
The police and rescue workers found Gilligan at Indian Neck, on the eastern side of the pond. He was pronounced dead by the island doctor, Reynolds said.
Gilligan’s body was sent to the medical examiner, where autopsy results were pending yesterday.

Ian McColgin
10-26-2006, 06:20 AM
One reason why Karlsboats is looking for a really sea worthy tender.

It is well to have a tender with so much floatation that one can bail the completly swamped boat from inside, or just can bailing and row swamped. Depending on how open the dink's design, you can have some interesting free surface problems in a swamped boat that are unconquerable in the conditions that swamped you in the first place, but floatation is still of value.

It is chilling fast. The invention of the float coat was a real milestone as people really will wear them in this weather.

G'luck

Norman Bernstein
10-26-2006, 06:54 AM
One reason why Karlsboats is looking for a really sea worthy tender.

It is well to have a tender with so much floatation that one can bail the completly swamped boat from inside, or just can bailing and row swamped. Depending on how open the dink's design, you can have some interesting free surface problems in a swamped boat that are unconquerable in the conditions that swamped you in the first place, but floatation is still of value.

It is chilling fast. The invention of the float coat was a real milestone as people really will wear them in this weather.

G'luck

Sounds to me like the best imaginable argument for an inflatable. Sure, they don't row worth a damn, but with three or four inflation chambers, they're about as unsinkable as a tender can get.

Figment
10-26-2006, 07:29 AM
of course, there's still the classic argument....
"what good is a pfd when the cold water induces cardiac arrest in 20 minutes?"

Staying out of the water is Job One.
Venturing out on the pond in high winds at 1am after closing down Yellow Kittens (I assume) really reduces the chance of sucessfully executing Job One.

The true tragedy of Mr. Gilligan's death is that it could so easily have been prevented.

Ian McColgin
10-26-2006, 10:51 AM
The Tinker excepted, inflatables in high wind are quite hazardous unless you have a lee shore to fetch up on.

LeeG
10-26-2006, 11:49 AM
staying out of the water...pfds make it easier to find the body if your only back up is floating. Staying out of the water is a good idea if you aren't dressed for swimming.

Speaking of all that how are inflatable pfds for swimming? I've got a bunch of paddlers pfds and they have some insulation characteristics and don't inhibit movement but my experience is that 90% of nonpaddlers have them on too loose and 50% of non-whitewater paddlers have them on too loose for any effective self rescue.

what are the inflateables like if you have to do things in the water besides float?