View Full Version : World Series! Cards or Tigers?
The pundits are picking the Tigers.
bamamick
10-20-2006, 06:30 PM
this. The idea that 10 guys from this team were on a team a couple of years ago that lost 119 games is unbelievable. This is what baseball is about: dreams. The idea that you can build through your farm system, add a couple of wily veterans like Pudge and Rogers and get to the series is a great thing.
That being said, I voted the Cards in seven. They have quite a bit of playoff experience on that roster, and in these things experience almost always counts. I will still root for the Tigers, but for some reason I believe the Cardinals will win.
Mickey Lake
brad9798
10-20-2006, 06:55 PM
Sorry ... the Tigers come from Cardinals blood (Leyland) ...
Either way, one manager will be the FIRST to win one in both the AL and the NL!
Here's to a good series ...
Did I mention, go Cards!?!?!?!?
crawdaddyjim50
10-20-2006, 09:55 PM
Leyland is phenominal. But the Tiger rotation is murderous. And YES I AM A TIGER FAN!
GO TIGERS!
bamamick
10-21-2006, 09:15 PM
getting smushed in this first game. Tough to start a rookie in this first World Series game no matter if he is a great rookie.
Mickey Lake
George Roberts
10-22-2006, 02:00 AM
I used to live near that old French town of Detroit.
Without Brigg's stadium who cares.
brad9798
10-22-2006, 10:16 AM
They were both rookies, Mickey.
Looks like we found our offense of the past few years ... finally.
They won't all be that easy to win!
Here's to a great series!
Rick Clark
10-22-2006, 11:20 AM
May the most home runs win, or RBI'ns
crawdaddyjim50
10-22-2006, 05:25 PM
Aaaaaack! :( . Oh well so we will spot you one. Needed to rest the old man anyway.
bamamick
10-22-2006, 06:30 PM
rookie 'til I got home from work this morning and watched the recap. Well, obviously the Card's bats were more ready, and I wonder what affect a solid week off had on the Tiger's hitters?
Should be a good one tonight.
Mickey Lake
It'll be interesting to see if pitching stats are still suspended tonight. Rogers has far better stats than Weaver, but stats didn't help last night.
I hope I can stay awake.
I could have lived without the musical intro. First some bad rap, followed by Jellin' Melon Cougar-Camp, and his latest Chevy song.
Get on with the baseball!
Rich VanValkenburg
10-22-2006, 07:25 PM
The weather is pretty brutal here right now. Two hours ago we had winds to 30, horizontal rain, and ccccold. I'm 40 short miles north of downtown and the intellicast radar looked like similar conditions down there.
I lost interest when the other pizza czar, Tom Monahan, fired Earnie Harwell years ago. I don't even remeber when or why the long pants started vs. the stirrup socks. Maybe somebody can fill me in.
Rich
crawdaddyjim50
10-22-2006, 07:58 PM
Don't get me started on the long pants! I can't watch, too much emotion. If they don't win tonite I may have to call in sick tommorrow.
bamamick
10-22-2006, 09:12 PM
for the umpire to call the low strike.
When I played putting on the stirrups over your socks and trying to decide exactly where to wear your pants was a big thing, but I understand the reason why the players like 'em low. I got in right at the end of the socks with stirrups sewed on to them and always thought that that was pretty crummy.
I also was in the last class in Alabama to use wooden bats in high school. We began using aluminum when I was a junior.
Mickey Lake
Bob Smalser
10-22-2006, 09:34 PM
What's aluminum?
Our grey uniforms were made outta scratchy wool back in The Farm Belt League. First glove I used was a hand-me-down from Dad that had no webbing or strings between the fingers....and didn't have them when it was new, either.
ishmael
10-22-2006, 09:43 PM
I remember my granny listening to the Tiger's games on a scratchy AM transitor radio. After she went blind she lost interest in most things, but she always rooted for the Tigers, so they're my team. GO TIGERS!
crawdaddyjim50
10-22-2006, 09:52 PM
OK I couldn't take it and have espn gamecast running in the background.
Bob Smalser
10-22-2006, 10:07 PM
Rogers has pitched 23 scoreless innings.
Wonder if the pine tar helps all that much?
bamamick
10-22-2006, 10:13 PM
using ceramic bats. Things sure have changed.
Mickey Lake
Rich VanValkenburg
10-22-2006, 10:13 PM
Last night I turned the TV volume down and listened to Earnie Harwell broadcast a couple innings. Around here, his voice somehow made summer complete. I remember in 1978 when I was replacing Sonja's deck the first time, listening to Earnie broadcast the game over several radios at the marina. There was no place there that you could go and not hear his work. There's good reason he made the broadcaster's hall of fame.
Rich
crawdaddyjim50
10-22-2006, 10:15 PM
Come on Jones put em away!
crawdaddyjim50
10-22-2006, 10:17 PM
Sweet jesus I'm gonna have a stroke!
crawdaddyjim50
10-22-2006, 10:20 PM
AAAAAAAAAAAgggggggh!
Beowolf
10-22-2006, 10:21 PM
Well, it wasn't boring.
crawdaddyjim50
10-22-2006, 10:23 PM
What a finish. I thought the wheels had come off the wagon......That is the end of Jones' series. I hope and pray.
Beowolf
10-22-2006, 10:25 PM
They said that they had Zumuya warming up in the bull pen, so perhaps we'll see some real heat before this series is over.
Jeff
crawdaddyjim50
10-22-2006, 10:27 PM
Man that kid can hurl it!
Beowolf
10-22-2006, 10:30 PM
I caught a game last August when he pitched 2 and 1/3 innings. His off speed pitch was 89 mph!!! His slowest fastball was 97 mph. He routinely hits 103!!!
crawdaddyjim50
10-22-2006, 10:42 PM
I understand that he grips the ball so tightly that it is causing tendon damage in his wrist. I hope he figures out how to correct that.
The Cards have the pitching edge tonight.
brad9798
10-24-2006, 10:42 PM
So much for the voters that thought: Tigers in four ... or five! :D
I had them in 5...oh well.
Carpenter was hot last night. He must have been using pine tar.
Detroit's bats need to get hot quick!
brad9798
10-25-2006, 01:44 PM
Other than three or four starts a year, he pitches that consistently every outing.
With Suppan following tonight, the Tigers are in a tough position ...
I think this game is the game of the series ... and will probably determine the winner.
Good luck to both teams ... but go Cards!
Interesting stats comparison between Suppan and Bonderman. They're relatively equal except in K's with Bonderman having almost twice as many.
Go Tigers!
Hey Brad! How about cleaning up your weather out there? I ain't staying up forever.
brad9798
10-25-2006, 08:06 PM
I hear you ... it sucks ... we have been 15-20 degrees BELOW normal for about a week ... we are missing a BEAUTIFUL month here in St. Louis ... :mad:
Hopefully, it will start soon!
:)
erster
10-25-2006, 08:08 PM
I hear you ... it sucks ... we have been 15-20 degrees BELOW normal for about a week ... we are missing a BEAUTIFUL month here in St. Louis ... :mad:
Hopefully, it will start soon!
:)
Man lets get it on here. My son has just returned from St Louis on sunday. He said it was cold then.
crawdaddyjim50
10-25-2006, 08:28 PM
A rest is good for the Tigers. Hope it works......
brad9798
10-26-2006, 10:27 AM
You kidding, Jim? They a week off to get rusty before the series ... ;)
We gonna have a game tonight, Brad? I see a few drizzle blips on the radar, but not much else.
brad9798
10-26-2006, 05:46 PM
I believe that we will have a game ... not much at ALL on local radar.
Soup ... Soup ... Soup (Suppan)
Mark Van
10-27-2006, 01:10 AM
Wow, what happenned to Detroits defense?
See this is why I don't bet on sports. I was expecting the Tigers to have momentium and the Cards to be short of breath on the short rest.
Chad
brad9798
10-27-2006, 08:01 AM
Rest kills momentum ... continual playing brings players together!
Donn- you stay up for that game last night?
Another doozy.
No, I went to bed when the Tigers were up 3-2, and I had a bad feeling about it. The clips I watched this morning were awful. When a pitcher can't throw to first, there isn't much hope.
brad9798
10-27-2006, 08:59 AM
Yea-
Their fundamentals are disturbing for the series thus far ...
Mark Van
10-27-2006, 01:21 PM
I've never seen anyone get to second base with a bunt before, amazing.
Tigers are blowing this big time. And can someone tell me why Kenny Rogers is not starting tonite? Its a possible elimination game. He has been pitching lights out. And he has 5 days of rest. And if he pitches tonite, he is much more likely to be available for a relief appearance in a game 7. Make no sense to me at all.
brad9798
10-27-2006, 01:51 PM
They SHOULD pitch the Gambler tonight ... hope they don't.
Seriously though, is anyone EVER going to say how the Cardinals are WINNING ... versus the Tigers are blowing it?
How about a little credit to a good team rising to the occasion versus the other team that a had a week to start believing their own press?
The Cardinals (although this was a bit of a down year) have been one of the top teams over the last several years ... I wish folks would show them a bit more respect.
Afterall, it's not like they've had multiple losing seasons ... then have a very good one this year, winning 95 games, and suddenly they are considered untouchable! ;)
Cardinals are playing really well, but Detroit did seem to just give them the game last night. Overall, people are blaming detriot rather than give the cards credit because of how well the Tiger had been playing. In the previous two series they looked good, really good. And they looked really good against two very good teams.
brad9798
10-27-2006, 02:28 PM
That is a very valid point, peb.
Detroit was pretty dominant in the playoffs!
brad9798
10-27-2006, 10:46 PM
R U Kidding me?
WHEWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!
What a night!
DAMN STRAIT! GO CARDS!
What a TEAM!!!!
Mark Van
10-28-2006, 02:01 PM
The new deffinition of "choke", the 2006 tigers.
brad9798
10-28-2006, 02:52 PM
Good pitching wins over good hitters always ... they should have pitched Rodgers.
With pitching like the Cards had in the series, terming it as a choke by the Tigers is a serious misstatement.
Their fundamentals were poor, but most AL teams are the same way when it comes to laying down (a sacrifice) or defending a sacrifice ...
No choking involved ... they were overwhelmed by dominant pitching ... Weaver was about unhittable last night ... Carpenter was the other day ... Reyes last week ...
The only decent pitching from the Tigers was the Gambler ... and you can't win with only one dominant pitcher in a series.
Too confident? Perhaps ... too long of layoff? I think so ... choke? Naw.
"Overwhelmed by dominant pitching.." Hardly. The Tigers were overwhelmed by errors. Just their pitchers had 5 errors.
The Cards played better, but to say the Tigers didn't choke is incorrect.
brad9798
10-28-2006, 04:27 PM
2.05 series ERA is what most would call dominating ...
I don't know many baseball folks that wouldn't (haven't already) called that dominating!
Oh they sloppy defense from pitchers is what really killed them ... but regardless, if you can't hit the pitching, you cannot win.
Brad, Detroit hit your pitching, almost as well as you hit theirs. Just look at the series stats:
Cards: 36 hits, 37 SO, 4 errors, 22 runs
Tigers, 32 hits, 34 SO, 8 errors, 11 runs
Two of the Detroit losses were direct results of pitcher errors. Those 5 errors were a World Series record.
brad9798
10-28-2006, 05:17 PM
They did hit, but they only hit when it didn't really count (mostly) ...
We only issued eight (8) walks ... vs. 23 issued to us. That, too, was a key stat.
They batted only .199 for the series with an OBP of .246 ...
The errors, like I agreed, killed them (the Tigers) ... but they couldn't hit their way out of a paper bag against our (very fortunately) RED HOT pitching.
Meerkat
10-28-2006, 05:55 PM
Oh goody! Does this mean the war is over now? ;)
crawdaddyjim50
10-29-2006, 08:57 AM
Well I have come out of the coma. Man o' man. I think Leyland said it best. We played like a losing team. The realisation that we were going to lose hit home in the sixth inning of game 4 when we looked like a bunch of cows staring at a new gate when the cards bunted Rolen to third. You would think a bunch of guys who have been playing baseball since they were 7 or 8 maybe younger would recognize a bunting situation!!!! It was like hitting the inside wall of turn three at Indy. The Tigers vaporized, Bonderman quit thinking and Leyland couldn't stop the plane from crashing nose first into the dirt.
The Cardinals played well and capitalized on the numerous errors in judgement and physical effort of the young Tiger players.
Congratulations to the World Champion St.Louis Cardinals.
That hurts. I now have to go and lay down......
brad9798
10-29-2006, 05:43 PM
Don't be so hard on them, Jim!
The Tigers suprised the entire league this year with a new, GREAT manager!
I really like a lot of the Tiger players ... and Leyland is top notch all the way!
GETTING to the post season is the challenge ... then, it becomes an issue of who is hot and who is not ...
Always has been.
Good luck to Tigers next year ... it should, by all indications, be another good year for them.
Brad
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