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every once in awhile I come to this one for timely info on military stuff with an unhurried perspective. Curious about where others get info,,
http://www.turcopolier.typepad.com/
Norman Bernstein
10-03-2006, 07:08 PM
I prefer www.msnbc.com (http://www.msnbc.com) as my general news source.
I usually check www.washingtonmonthly.com (http://www.washingtonmonthly.com) once a day for an occasional insight, and more often, for the sake of the links to original sources.
I don't read conservative blogs, but I do read Boston's conservative newspaper every day, and fairly often listen to conservative talk radio on my way home... for as long as I can, before gagging... but at least I can hear an opposing view.
botebum
10-03-2006, 07:21 PM
I've found that for the widest view of up to date, pertinent news there is no better source than this:
http://www.woodenboatvb.com/vbulletin/upload/forumdisplay.php?f=5
This link includes up to the minute updates, diverse editoralism, great photo segments, biased opinion from all areas of the spectrum, and occasionally they talk about wooden boats(rarely, but it happens). Yup, this is my source.
Doug
then of course there's
www.juancole.com
www.dailykos.com
www.americablog.com
www.talkingpointsmemo.com
http://www.juancole.com/2005/11/blogroll-political-journalism-talking.html
http://patriotboy.blogspot.com/
http://www.warandpiece.com/
High C
10-03-2006, 07:38 PM
Lee, do you really see blogs as news sources?
Norman Bernstein
10-03-2006, 07:41 PM
Lee, do you really see blogs as news sources?
I don't want to answer for Lee, but good blogs will hotlink to original sources... and help to coordinate stories, so you can refer back to the originals to make up your own mind about the conclusions the blogs may be coming to. The reason I like www.washingtonmonthly.com (http://www.washingtonmonthly.com) is that each section always contains the direct source link.
It's a good way to get a story summary and 'research' it to see if you agree or not.
Lee, do you really see blogs as news sources?
High, many blogs serve as places for commentary and/or focus for particular subjects, like a table of contents.
High, what do you call this one?
www.warincontext.com
or this one?
http://www.aei.org/
Norman Bernstein
10-03-2006, 07:59 PM
Independant thinker, I see. :eek: I thought that most educated folks read multiple sources, to become more educated, or so says the elites on the WBF. And in your case with this online forum, if the provided facts rebutes or refutes your daily attacks or tauts to provide evidence, or does not fit the preconceived idea and desire, you go on to the next flaming, and distortion, even continuing your name calling.
*sigh*
You really can't help yourself, erster...you just have to make it personal, don't you? Where in this thread did I say anything about you personally?
Wait a minute... you haven't even participated in this thread until now... and your one and only contribution is yet another personal attack.
High C
10-03-2006, 08:06 PM
High, many blogs serve as places for commentary and/or focus for particular subjects, like a table of contents....
Oh, blogs can certainly be interesting and entertaining, but I had never thought of them as news sources. There are even fewer checks and balances for accuracy/honesty than with traditional sources. Some are accurate, some hysterical nonsense, some blatant propaganda. Sometimes it's not obvious which.
Norman Bernstein
10-03-2006, 08:08 PM
Oh, blogs can certainly be interesting and entertaining, but I had never thought of them as being sources. There are even fewer checks and balances for accuracy/honesty than with traditional sources. Some are accurate, some hysterical nonsense, some blatant propaganda. Sometimes it's not obvious which.
You're right about the blogs themselves.... but the links are a different issue.
What's good about the blogs? For any controversial story, a good blog will 'direct' you to the source material.
Norman Bernstein
10-03-2006, 08:23 PM
Quote:
I do not read conservative blogs,
You need glasses, erster. Try re-reading my post. I said I read a conservative newspaper every day, and listen to conservative talk radio.
Selective quotation doesn't become you :D
Even with a simple I.Q. of fifty, I am able to conclude....
Thanks for the confirmation... of what many of us already suspected!
slate.com
theglobeandmail.com
cbc.ca
though my favourite news magazine is frank. online version found at: efrank.ca
high, you didn't answer my question. I understand your comment to mean there's a lot of stuff out there. uh,,yup.
How about this one
www.military.com
or
www.globalsecurity.org
High C
10-03-2006, 09:25 PM
high, you didn't answer my question....
Oh, sorry.
Two more.
come on sparky, you are able to express opinions about what other people say, why are you mute all of a sudden?
This thread is a good one. Sounds like Rummy is going down with the ship and not very many folks are going to throw him a line. Where's the love?
http://forums.military.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/672198221/m/4820032090001
S/V Laura Ellen
10-03-2006, 09:32 PM
I like CBC (http://www.cbc.ca/news/) and BBC (http://news.bbc.co.uk/) for news.
BBC is great,,and http://www.csmonitor.com/
wait,,Laura Ellen isn't your name?
S/V Laura Ellen
10-03-2006, 09:38 PM
BBC is great,,and http://www.csmonitor.com/
wait,,Laura Ellen isn't your name?
No and my initials aren't SV.:D :D :D
Laura Ellen, is my mistress, err I mean... my boat's name. www.aylard.ca (http://www.aylard.ca)
High C
10-03-2006, 09:43 PM
come on sparky, you are able to express opinions about what other people say, why are you mute all of a sudden?
Because if I took the time to read all the links you post, I'd have to quit my job. :p
anyway to answer your question, yes, I read blogs to get more news. Back when the Iraq war was happening there was pretty much only the MSM and Ari Fleischer. There were blogs by reporters with more material than they could sell to newservices. So they gave some away for free.
Kinda like you have a ground truth in Slidell after katrina that's worth seeking out. If the only news about New Orleans came from the WhiteHouse and Comedy Central wouldn't your views be worth reading?
High C
10-03-2006, 09:52 PM
anyway to answer your question, yes, I read blogs to get more news. Back when the Iraq war was happening there was pretty much only the MSM and Ari Fleischer. There were blogs by reporters with more material than they could sell to newservices. So they gave some away for free.
Kinda like you have a ground truth in Slidell after katrina that's worth seeking out. If the only news about New Orleans came from the WhiteHouse and Comedy Central wouldn't your views be worth reading?
You make a good point.
paladin
10-04-2006, 08:05 AM
reruns of "Big John and Sparky".....
See,,? this stuff is great..
HighC you know Richard Perle don't you? He's one of those smart civilians who gets to play part time leader of the military as an advisor. Check this out, he says Rumsfeld should stay and that the only problem is that he was forced to work "on too small of a canvas". We should have been declaring war on every one in the region. Can you believe this sh*t?
Do you think karl rove is going to call Fox News and say "hey lets get some more crazy assed chicken hawk stuff like Perle on the air"
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/10/4/71023/1053
PatCox
10-04-2006, 10:16 AM
Alan Keyes is making sense? That'll be the day, the man is certifiably insane.
I love wonkette.
Drudge is a good source of info, and everyone in the media reads him, so you get a sense of the zeitgeist from him.
Kos is political to the point of boredom (polls, analysis of the 78th district of hellandgone, etc, and of the effect of GOTV vs TV ads).
There is a professional airline pilots bulletin board I used to read that was great.
From blogs I learned enough to know Bush was wrong on Iraq, to know what ideologues like Pearle were behind this foolishness, and to know the likely outcome, which has proven exactly as predicted.
So I think its safe to say my blog sources have proven more accurate and dependable than Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice, and the National Security Council Bush has advising him.
Pat,,do you remember the leadership in the Whitehouse being this insane? Maybe I need some coffe or have been roaming the Kos threads too much but the disconnect from domestic issues (a constitutional amendment about heteromarriage?) to convincing Joe and Jane Six pack that Osama and Saddam were buds is not connected to their stated reality. It's totally whacked.
Less gov't? nope
High C
10-04-2006, 10:22 AM
...Drudge is a good source of info....
Indeed it is. While oft vilified in certain small circles (:p ) for its Conservative leanings, the Drudge Report is unequaled for its many links to editorialists and news items throughout the world.
I used to use Drudge but once he posted Kerrys alleged affair with an intern which was totally false and didn't retract it it became obvious he never grew beyond an internet tabloid cover that was in the beginning of internet news linking.
Norman Bernstein
10-04-2006, 10:27 AM
Indeed it is. While oft vilified in certain small circles (:p ) for its Conservative leanings, the Drudge Report is unequaled for its many links to editorialists and news items throughout the world.
I agree on the value of his links... but as for the man himself, he ranks right up there with Ann Coulter and Michael Savage... maybe they crawled out from under the same rock?
No reputable journalist would, like Drudge, brag about being right 70% of the time.
he's a pea shooter, if you want partisan bias and links there have to be better ones on the tabloid conservative side.
HuffingtonPost.com is on the left but provides all the same links with some actual writing.
Drudge doesn't have much integrity
High C
10-04-2006, 10:31 AM
...Drudge doesn't have much integrity
He's as bad as Dan Rather. Of course, Dan had the good taste to retire.
I believe Rather acknowledge what happened. to each his own
PatCox
10-04-2006, 10:54 AM
The information Rather gave was accurate. The testimony of several people aware of Bush's record completely supported the supposedly forged records. It appears that one of Rather's sources tried to bolster his testimony. But nothing ever refuted the facts asserted.
Bush went awol, and then left the service before his commitment was up. At some point, he refused to take his flight physical and he never regained flight status, and at about the same time he volunteered in a program to help inner city youths, something that goes against everything in what is known of his character. It is most likely that this is the period in which he got himself a drug conviction, which his family connections helped to sort out with no clear record left behind.
High C
10-04-2006, 10:57 AM
The information Rather gave was accurate...
Oh my, it just gets sillier and sillier! :rolleyes:
Don Olney
10-04-2006, 10:58 AM
Fox News -- definitely fair and balanced. This was from last night's The No Spin Zone:
http://insidecable.blogsome.com/images/100306b.jpg
uncas
10-04-2006, 11:01 AM
I guess the only news source worth mentioning is the BILGE! All the news that's fit to print and some that isn't!!!!
LOL....ROOTFL
Oh my, it just gets sillier and sillier! :rolleyes:
look, pretty lights!
High, not sure if you're getting the message but those comments aren't rebuttals or reflect any idea connected to the topic. In your reality based world if you kept filling up the gas tank so it flowed over onto the ground and someone said "what are you doing, it's overflowing!"
and you said "oh my, it gets silllier and sillier" it would be obvious you weren't in the same world as the gas or the person yelling at you.
High C
10-04-2006, 12:44 PM
look, pretty lights!
High, not sure if you're getting the message but those comments aren't rebuttals or reflect any idea connected to the topic. In your reality based world if you kept filling up the gas tank so it flowed over onto the ground and someone said "what are you doing, it's overflowing!"
and you said "oh my, it gets silllier and sillier" it would be obvious you weren't in the same world as the gas or the person yelling at you.
You have gas on your shoe.
oh my it gets sillier and sillier.
Meerkat
10-04-2006, 01:46 PM
Because if I took the time to read all the links you post, I'd have to quit my job. :pIs aligator tending that stressful? :D
no, he has to sound the words.
Garrett Lowell
10-04-2006, 01:55 PM
I use
www.washingtonpost.com
www.dailystar.com.lb
www.egyptdailynews.com
CBC, BBC, Globe and Mail, National Post, CNN. Local New Brunswick newspapers too, through a clippings service at the office.
Sometimes Reuters, or Associated Press. Used to read NY Times, but a guy's got to draw the line on newsgathering somewhere and do some work...
Bruce Hooke
10-04-2006, 03:38 PM
I figure, between The Providence Journal, The Christian Science Monitor, NPR, and the WoodenBoat Forum, I get enough national and international news to be a well informed citizen. So, I mostly look to alternative sources when it comes to local news. In that line, I watch sites like:
http://www.rifuture.org/blog/ (Rhode Island's Future -- a political blog)
http://www.naturalnews.net/ (Rhode Island's Natural News Network)
I am also on various email lists that keep me up to date on various issues...
High C
10-04-2006, 03:41 PM
no, he has to sound the words.
That was beneath you. No, wait, I was thinking of someone else. :p
ken_nyus
10-04-2006, 03:49 PM
I check:
www.jihadwatch.org
and
www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch
Check this out,,
from this www.huffingtonpost.com
comes this
http://cbs2chicago.com/politics/local_story_277155615.html
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