Fenwick Williams--"Annie" -update SAVED!!!

[OEX]

Hello all. I just went and saw a Fenwick Williams "Annie", gaff yawl--24 X 8 1/2.
Fenwick Williams (http://www.woodenboatrescue.org/carview.php?view=87)

Its on the site and pix should be up ASAP. Clearly a great design, but she needs a bit-o-work.

Cheers, Bruce---p.s. thanks for all your comments at the Wooden Boat Show. Much needed and appreciated.

[ 09-07-2005, 12:46 PM: Message edited by: OEX ]

[pcford]

Thanks for your good work!!!

pcf

[OEX]

PICTURES ARE UP ON THE SITE NOW!!!
Fenwick Williams (http://www.woodenboatrescue.org/carview.php?view=87)

[OEX]

UPDATE---She has a newhome---look for restoration logs to come.

Cheers and yaaaay

Bruce

[catndahats]

Bruce,

You are a good man. Thank-you for caring for the old timer's out there.

Personally, I could never reconcile myself to adopt the "shoreliner'ish" boat you guys had...but the good news is: I rescued a 50+ year old Herreshoff Meadowlark recently, and am presently working on restoring her.

You are providing a wonderful service! Find more southern boats....please.

Hats off to you, sir!
Nate

[L.W. Baxter]

That Annie is a total do-over after only 20 years??? Ugh.

[Andrew Craig-Bennett]

That thought struck me, also.

Let's not go into why anyone would so neglect an almost-new wooden boat, but as a construction method I think I will be sticking with carvel!

Glad she is being sorted; nice boat.

[OEX]

Hey Nate---do you want to use the WBRF site to post progress logs? Just pix and text every so often---take a look at the site's current restoration logs---people are getting a lot out of them--another way to save other boats. Th Shoreliner will be fine, it is a very cool boat and a few people including myself want to get on it.

This Annie was west systemed, and the keel was covered. I do not know much about Epoxy, but it seems better to keep the keel free. The epoxy trapped the rain water -- 2-5 years of that and almost any wood is a gonner. I think when life gets tough and you built a boat on your own, its easy to not see you are doing the boat harm by ignoring it out of guilt. Not sure if it needs a total re-do, but its close---agine I do not know Epoxy and Wood so I can't really say.

Did you all see that the 54 Channel Cutter Yacht was also SAVED?---too cool. We have a Giles 34 sloop coming up, an S and S, a danish 35 one design, .....

Cheers

[ 09-08-2005, 07:21 AM: Message edited by: OEX ]

[catndahats]

Thanks Bruce!

WE are keeping a photo log and journal of the project. Like the restoration, it is in its' infancy. My wife's a writer...I'm just a writing teacher!

I'll keep you posted, and may want to post to the restoration logs...

Again, hats tipped your way!
Nate

[pipefitter]

Sounds like it was half systemed yet the keel and the planking were not sealed from the inside creating a fiberglass bucket.Seems to me that the keel in a boat like that would have to almost have the keel glassed seperately first the planking butted up to it and then glassed to the keel?If not and a stand alone glue joint cracked or failed then the water could run
behind the glass via the bilge?

[OEX]

I did try to make it clear that is was not Annie, but based on Annie. This is why I listed it as "Annie" and not Annie. I thought I was clear on the listing---did you read it? Oh well I thought more people would recognize the design, since it seems to be often referred to as "you know the Annie design." Oops smile.gif

Yes the owner adapted the plans from WB to strip and epoxy. For this type of building the frames are fewer.

Whats SWMBO?

Cheers, Bruce

[ 09-09-2005, 07:39 AM: Message edited by: OEX ]

[Ruaridh]

Thought I'd throw my oar in here 'cos Im bored and it's a while since I've yarned with you guys...

1) I think this is one of the most interesting posts that's been on this forum for ages, because finally we're getting to SEE what an epoxy / strip boat goes like when it's negelected and possibly (no disrespect) not that well built in the first place?. And WOW, look at that, she certainly looks a lot more scary than some old carvel ones I've poked around!!

2) Why o why if rain is getting into a boat don't people drill a hole at the lowest point to let it out!!? tongue.gif So much easier to repair than this! Personally I like nice deep bilges and a little bronze plug you take out when you put her on the hard.

3) All hail the great epoxy debate!! I know lots of us are sick of it, but this is a valuable addition! (Perhaps we should collate all the threads and publish a book!) Certainly sheathing inside might have helped here, but all those years of rainwater....probably then just rotten wood with epoxy on both sides. Or perhaps more air being sealed out would help. I often think that sheathing on the inside and none on the outside in many ways makes more sense, but everyone seems to swear by sheathing on the outside for finish, abrasion resistance, etc.

Certainly makes me swing more towards the traditional ways (in spirit at least if not in practice!!)

P.S. I didn't mean anything personal against the previous owner / builder by my comments above, there may have been difficult circumsatnces and I don't want to appear insensitive or critical.

[OEX]

rIGHT NOW I THINK ITS TOO EARLY TO "SE WHAT EFFECT IT HAD ON THE BOAT. I ONLY HAD A FAST LOOK. AFTER THE FELLOW STARTS TO OPEN HER UP IS WHEN THE REAL GOOD INFO WILL APPEAR. AS HE RESTORES IT I REALLY HOPE HE WILL POST "LOGS" AND WE WILL THEN HAVE TRUELY GOOD DATA TO BAT AROUND

CHEERS, BRUCE

[artnsue]

Annie – Where is she now?

The original design was by Fenwick Williams “Cruising Double Ender”. The plans were completed on May 11, 1933.

Arthur Brendze named the boat we built at Brendze and Wester – Arundel Shipyard, Annie, because it was one of the most popular show on New York’s Broadway at the time. The dingy, named Sandy, was built by Bill Peterson in South Bristol, ME.

My recollection is that the only modification from the original plans was the addition of a Vee berth forward , roomy enough for a couple of little kids!

The keel oak came from Connecticut. The two Arts rented a U-haul and drove to a sawmill recommended by Dale Vosberg Callaway, whose family owned the Francis Herreschoff ketch Albacore. The remainder of most of the oak for framing came from a local mill in Kennebunk. The cedar planking all came from a mill near Machias. Kiever Willard in Newburyport provided mahogany, teak, etc. We laminated the deck and house beams from iroko.

She was built as a winter project to keep us out of trouble in the winters of 78-80.

Fenwick was a good friend of Art Brendze’s and came up a couple of times from Marblehead to make sure we were doing it right. Fenwick’s eyesight was very poor, he literally couldn’t see much beyond his nose, but he had great hands. He was happy.

If anyone out there knows where Annie is and who owns her, and especially how she’s holding up, I’d love to know.

[rbgarr]

Register of Wooden Boats shows her in Marblehead. Owners live in Groton, Mass.

http://www.woodenboat.com/rwb/index.php