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Honda_Shadow
07-21-2006, 09:50 AM
OK, so I just bought the $20 book on the Marisol Skiff that WB Magazine's been pushing lately and I am SO glad that I did NOT fork out the cash for the plans. That boat is NOT for beginners like the author says. There is so much frill and froo froo added onto the thing that the very pages smelled like pansies. I'm looking for a good beginning project that's a no frills sailing workboat; keeping in mind that within a month of it's launching it's going to reak of fish stink and clam remnants. Any ideas?

TomMcKinney
07-21-2006, 10:37 AM
John Gardner's books have numerous sailing work boats for fish and clams. There's the clamming skiff on pg 46 of wooden boats to build and use as well as numerous other flat bottom skiff and pea pods.

What is your list of charecteristics, probable uses and building methods? Many bolger boats are nice simple and sailing boats, some don't even use epoxy, as well as Michalac (sic?).

Honda_Shadow
07-21-2006, 10:45 AM
I've only got a couple requirements, it's got to be very shallow draft, so a sharpie design is preferrable. I've got a ton of carpentry skills, but no boat building skills, so the construction should be pretty straight forward, I would like it to be big enough for two people comfortably, but be small enough to be built in a 2-car garage.

yorgie
07-21-2006, 11:33 AM
Sam Rabl's book "Boatbuilding in Your Backyard" has the plans for a classic old flattie skiff that used to be built by an old friend of his.The 'Uncle Gabe' skiff looks very simple to build and has real no nonsense Chesapeake style.No gilded lily New England pansies on this old workboat.

Chris

Honda_Shadow
07-21-2006, 01:16 PM
Sweet! That sounds like exactly what I need! All the stuff for the Marisol was in millimeters anyway. What the heck is a millimeter? (rhetorical question) Besides, his boat wouldn't look very great after a few weekends of slicing up spot and croaker for cut bait using the thwarts for a cutting board.

Rick Starr
07-21-2006, 02:40 PM
Well, the pooduck skiff meets those requirements quite well too and is dead simple and fast to build (125 hrs soup to nuts for me, and I am a professional woodworker but the pooduck was my first boat) It sails and rows quite well. It is easy to clean on the inside. 2 adults is perfect, with the addition of a small child easily made. It'll row 4 adults and a heap of groceries in dry comfortable style thus is a great tender, although large as tenders go. Also, she is pretty to look at for a flatbottomed plywood skiff (7planks). Click on my signature link and have a read, if you are interested.

The marisol skiff was one I looked at too but decided on the pooduck.

emichaels
07-21-2006, 02:47 PM
See this thread for other ideas.


http://www.woodenboatvb.com/www/vbulletin/upload/showthread.php?t=52867

TomMcKinney
07-21-2006, 06:13 PM
I would look at a Bolger desing instant boat- look at the desings on www.instantboats.com and then buy one of the two books for all the plans you need. June bug or pointy skiff would seem the best for your requirements IMHO.-- but if fishing in shallow wtaer and not sailing- I would go with the work skiff/clam skiff. or if sailing get Michalak's new book on beginer boats and go for it.

StevenBauer
07-21-2006, 06:19 PM
Well you are right that the Marisol isn't a workboat. :)
I'll second the John Gardner books. They are chock full of workboats and you don't need to buy any stinkin' plans. All the info you need is in the book. I know 'cause that's how I built my first boat, his 14' Sail and Row Skiff. :D

Steven

Tom Mac
07-22-2006, 06:11 PM
Look at the Simmons Sea Skiff, which was in Wooden Boats how to build. That would stand up to fish clams and beer cans very well. Tom Mac

WFK
07-22-2006, 07:16 PM
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid40/p3065610f02926dc69c1771986274912f/fcfe32b0.jpg
Here's the inside of my Marisol. It's 23 years old and I was 22 when I built it, my 1st attempt at a complete boat. I have to say, I remember looking at the plans and the guy I was working for at the time said, "what's with all the ginger bread". As you can see, I made a change with the bench layout and no ornate woodwork, just straight forward stuff.
I just got home after a 4 hour sail and have to add, it really is a wonderful sailing little boat........

Bill

Paul Girouard
07-22-2006, 07:27 PM
Bill
How about some sailing photo's then :rolleyes: Where those some you had in the can / stored ,the photo's ? I thought you had her swinging on the hook/ buoy?

Paul

WFK
07-22-2006, 07:36 PM
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid209/pd3aee936100d208e3906dcf07c277679/ee301459.jpg
Here ya go paul..........As you can see, a little problem developed with the downhaul:rolleyes:

Paul Girouard
07-22-2006, 07:38 PM
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid209/pd3aee936100d208e3906dcf07c277679/ee301459.jpg
Here ya go paul..........As you can see, a little problem developed with the downhaul:rolleyes:

Maybe with the camera angle / photographer:D

WFK
07-22-2006, 07:43 PM
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid210/p19bff768b6cb9d45e9a2a0dc94a72e77/ede2bb87.jpg
Here's a little better one..........A fun day to be out on Eastsound.....
Didn't mean to steal your thread Honda............
Bill