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Carlsboats
07-04-2006, 09:20 PM
Looking for a design for a dinghy that will carry three,
row well --and be capable of mounting a small outboard.
Want something about the size of my Shellback, but that
boat won't work because the load waterline comes to a
point at the transom, so a motor would make it squat.
Same with the Chamberlin skiff dory --great in all respects
except that the dory bottom shape and tombstone transom
don't like outboards back there. How about Pete Culler's
Good Little Skiff? Would it suffer a 2-3 HP outboard?
One other thing: Has to be able to take care of her
crew in windy, choppy conditions. Might have to row or
motor 1/4 mile or more to get to the mother ship,
carrying groceries and people in harbor where it can
easily be blowing 15-20 afternoon southerly. Think
Buzzard's Bay and Block Island.(Thus, the conventional
yacht tender --Dyer dink, Haggerty pram, etc.-- just won't cut it.)
Have tried the inflatable route. Wet! Won't row worth
diddley. Hate 'em.
George Ray
07-04-2006, 09:46 PM
I am thinking seriously about one for us.
http://www.niccollslite.net/page1.html
capt jake
07-04-2006, 10:13 PM
How about one of these?
http://www.bandbyachtdesigns.com/spin.htm
StevenBauer
07-04-2006, 10:53 PM
Carl, after years of production problem solving my friend Dave finally has the Portland Pudgy on the market. I saw a bunch of them down at Hamilton Marine the other day. From the website www.portlandpudgy.com (http://www.portlandpudgy.com)
The Portland Pudgy (patent pending), is an everyday service dinghy that does triple duty as a sailing dinghy and self-rescue dinghy. It rows, tows, sails and motors beautifully, and it could save your life.
It is an unsinkable, rotation molded, double hulled dinghy—broad of beam for stability, but lightweight and easy to maneuver. Its durable, rugged polyethylene hull is impact- and puncture-resistant.
The Pudgy comes in sunset yellow, international orange, red, and warm white. Additional custom colors may be available on request.
Who uses the Portland Pudgy dinghy?
Though designed as a self-rescue dinghy for the blue water sailor, the Pudgy is a safe and fun recreational boat. It’s easy to sail and extremely stable, and thus a perfect sailing dinghy and rowboat for children, Its stability makes it a good duck boat, small fishing boat, and camping boat. In addition, commercial fishermen can use the Pudgy as a self-rescue dinghy on boats carrying one to four crew members.
What's unique about the Portland Pudgy?
The Portland Pudgy is unique because of its multi-functionality, its ingenious self-contained design, and because it lets you be proactive in an emergency. Unlike a life raft, which forces you to sit and wait for rescue, the Portland Pudgy lets you propel yourself toward shipping lanes or land.
No other dinghy incorporates lifesaving functions, great buoyancy, and maneuverability, all in a self-contained unit. Sea anchor, exposure canopy, sailing rig (including sail, mast and tiller), and safety equipment are all stowed in large watertight storage compartments in the hull. The rudder, dagger boards, and an alternate motor mount stow neatly under the rear seat.
The Portland Pudgy dinghy is extremely buoyant—the bottom of its double hull is filled with closed-cell foam, and watertight storage compartments add flotation. It holds six hundred pounds, with seven and a half inches of free board.
Size and weight
The seven foot eight inch Portland Pudgy has sixteen square feet of floor space (USCG requirement for a four-man life raft). It weighs just about 115 pounds, can be towed or carried on deck, and it can fit on top of your car or in the back of many station wagons and vans.
For more information
See our photo gallery, and frequently asked questions, call us at 207.761.2428, or e-mail us at dhulbert@maine.rr.com.
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http://portlandpudgy.com/motoring%20madman%2001%20copy.jpg
http://portlandpudgy.com/6-rowing-side%20view.jpg
http://portlandpudgy.com/Pudgy%20sailing%20bluesky3.jpg
My favorite picture (my daughters are the two on the right:)):
http://portlandpudgy.com/towing%20gabe%20girls%203.jpg
I have no financial interest in this venture but Dave is a real nice guy - feel free to give him a call.
Steven
botebum
07-04-2006, 11:57 PM
Steven, What kind of wood is that yellow one? I really like it. I know the red one must be redwood and the white one is white pine, right?
Sheesh!
Doug
StevenBauer
07-05-2006, 12:34 AM
Duh! Yellow pine. :)
Steven
Mrleft8
07-05-2006, 08:13 AM
A Catspaw might fit your bill. I put a Seagull on the transom once, just for giggles. It worked beautifully. Rows like a champ, and sails like a dream.
johnw
07-05-2006, 01:36 PM
Herreschoff dinghy (Columbia lifeboat model)
Carlsboats
07-07-2006, 10:11 PM
Thanks for the suggestions.
Steve, I'm not into rotomoldeds. Never have owned a boat I didn't
build (well, okay, there is the Zodiac),and I'm too old to change my
ways. The intended boat will probably spend most of its time at a dinghy dock, getting beat up by all sorts of unfendered tenders, so this winter I'll probably carve something out of plywood and finish it sans varnish. Maybe an 11 footer would do, to carry the loads and
keep down the spray.
rbgarr
07-07-2006, 11:16 PM
Culler's GLS is too low sided and the transom too raked for what you want. One of his garvey or san-pan designs might be better.
Personally, I second the Herreshoff Columbia lifeboat model recommendation. Mystic may have plans/lines for a larger version than the Barry Thomas' version (in his monograph on building one).
Strip-built and fiberglass sheathed (sacrilege, I know!) for lording it over others at the dingy dock.
In fiberglass I'd consider getting an old Interclub dinghy (not 'so' good for rowing) or a Cape Cod Shipbuilding Beverly dinghy rowing model, which as a Sidney Herreshoff design is virtually the 11' NGH lifeboat model in FG.
johnw
07-08-2006, 12:38 AM
Why not build a Penguin? 11'6" long, sails great, rows well, tows well, has plenty of room. And although it was designed for batten-seam construction, it's easy to build in ply.
Steve Paskey
07-08-2006, 08:06 AM
What about John Gardner's 12-foot semi-dory, page 225 in The Dory Book? In a semi-dory, the lines of a swampscott dory have been widened aft to give a stern section wide enough and powerful enough to support an outboard without squatting.
The boat is designed for ply construction (with batten seams) and is fairly light, perhaps 90 pounds. John says it's easy to build, large enough to fish three comfortably, able to stand considerable rough water, and will take an outboard up to about 7 hp.
JimConlin
07-08-2006, 08:35 AM
The Concordia Baeteka is somewhat deeper than most prams, so is correspondly drier and more burdensome.
http://www.conlin-boats.com/index_files/image002.jpgThe
This one is in glued lapstrake. Mystic Seaport has plans..
Carlsboats
07-11-2006, 06:05 PM
Again, thanks. The semi-dory in The Dory Book is the closest so far to what I think I need.
sv Lorelei
07-11-2006, 06:38 PM
Carl,
I built a 10 footer of my own design based loosely around an update of the old Brockway Scows that were so popular around here. It has a modest deadrise that flattens aft and it rows like a dream unladen and pretty easy comparatively speaking with four aboard. Plenty of freeboard. It's dead easy to build. I made ours from 1/4 ply with 6 oz FG on the exterior for wear, but you can takes your choice. Contact me off list and I'll see if I can dig up some pictures of her to email you.
johnw
07-11-2006, 08:11 PM
I've owned a semi-dory in this size range. Not a lot of room in it for the length, but seaworthy and good to row.
Lewisboats
07-12-2006, 02:56 AM
Here is something I am working on for a gentleman who will be leaving it rightside up and on the water. With a floor at the chine and the cavity filled with foam, the boat is self draining while empty. Simply plug the drain holes and you have about 800 lbs capacity in a package that is about 12 ft long. It can also be cat rigged for sail.
Steve
http://angelfire.com/ego/lewisboatworks/Stuff/SelfDrainingSkiff_Linesplan.GIF
http://angelfire.com/ego/lewisboatworks/Stuff/SelfDrainingSkiff_developments.JPG
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