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Paul Pless
06-29-2006, 04:30 PM
I believe that people would be alive today if there were a death penalty.



I don't talk about political matters. That's not my department.



I don't think most people associate me with leeches or how to get them off. But I know how to get them off. I'm an expert at it.



I don't intend for this to take on a political tone. I'm just here for the drugs.



I think a woman gets more if she acts feminine.



The Sixties, of course, was the worst time in the world to try and bring up a child. They were exposed to all these crazy things going on.



Just say no to drugs!


hehehe

ljb5
06-29-2006, 04:42 PM
What's the story behind the one about leeches?

Paul Pless
06-29-2006, 04:44 PM
not a clue

ljb5
06-29-2006, 04:45 PM
not a clue

Make something up!

Paul Pless
06-29-2006, 04:46 PM
don't know the story behind this one either, but its my favorite

I don't intend for this to take on a political tone. I'm just here for the drugs.

Meerkat
06-29-2006, 05:32 PM
This has to be Nancy's all time favorite:

What's your sign?

:D

LeeG
06-29-2006, 05:37 PM
Hell, a woman gets more just by asking

Memphis Mike
06-29-2006, 05:40 PM
I didn't know she talked.:confused:

Wild Wassa
06-29-2006, 06:14 PM
"War is not nice." - Nancy Witchypoo Reagan.

ARRRHH!, to be so profound. Whitchypoo would be enough to make any sane person turn to the tarrot cards ... which was her guiding choice of pre-empting important political events?

Is the witch dead yet?

Warren.

S/V Laura Ellen
06-29-2006, 06:20 PM
"War is not nice." - Nancy Witchypoo Reagan.

ARRRHH!, to be so profound. Whitchypoo would be enough to make any sane person turn to the tarrot cards ... which was her guiding choice of pre-empting important political events?

Is the witch dead yet?

Warren.

I take it that you don't care for Nancy? Being somewhat removed from the American political situation, I thought that Nancy was held in higher esteem by most Americans.

So, to you American formites, was Nancy OK or a witchypoo (you can thank Warren for that moniker)?

Lew Barrett
06-29-2006, 06:56 PM
I don't know how she appeared to others, but I always thought she was more than just a bit imperious, not to mention too skinny, but with really expensive, tailored suits.
The "Just say no" initiative defined her for me. Let's set the scene; there's this junkie kid in the neighborhood who breaks car windows to steal radios that cost $200, and does $1000 damage to the car. He doesn't care because he gets $15 for each radio. His parents are at each other's throats, and don't know where to start to solve the problem, nor is there any place they can go to find out. The kid is shiftless, drifting, disinterested and nobody knows what to do with him. The school would rather pretend the problem doesn't exist, but if it does go any further, they will simply expel the kid.
But..... if we Just Say No, nicely mind you, but with a firm, Dog Whisperer approach, all these problems are going to disappear, and soon, things will be back to normal again.
Thanks for the helpful advice, Nancy.
Lew

Concordia...41
06-29-2006, 07:54 PM
Politics aside, Nancy Regan was a lady who deeply loved her husband.

That counts for more than out-of-context quotes, sound bites, and policy that (in hindsight) was ineffective.

Yes, she raised a couple of dysfunctional kids (gee - that's something you never hear happening); and yes, she wore expensive clothes, but in a position to afford same, you should wear nothing less.

That'll be .02 cents please ;)

Seriously, Dave was in the final months of his life and we sat together watching the funeral proceedings. I remember thinking that after all that President Regan must have suffered as the Alzheimer's progressed, that I expected Mrs. Regan to maybe have some peace that he was at rest and no longer struggling and suffering, but her eyes were so empty. She seemed to be operating on autopilot when it came to nodding and speaking on que, but looking at her eyes, she was absolutely lost and adrift. :(

Donn
06-29-2006, 08:09 PM
Margo...according to Ron Jr., President Reagan once wrote that Nancy was thel first thing he wanted to see when he awoke, and the last thing he wanted to see before he slept. She was. You can't ask for more than that.

ljb5
06-29-2006, 08:14 PM
Politics aside, Nancy Regan was a lady who deeply loved her husband.

That counts for more than out-of-context quotes, sound bites, and policy that (in hindsight) was ineffective.

Yes, she raised a couple of dysfunctional kids (gee - that's something you never hear happening); and yes, she wore expensive clothes, but in a position to afford same, you should wear nothing less.


The same could be said of Hillary Clinton (except her kid isn't dysfunctional --- and some people make that sound like a bad thing.

S/V Laura Ellen
06-29-2006, 08:59 PM
The same could be said of Hillary Clinton (except her kid isn't dysfunctional --- and some people make that sound like a bad thing.

Not so sure of that. I asuume that political aspirations mean more to her than the love of her husband. Or do you maen that she wore nice suits?

ljb5
06-29-2006, 09:20 PM
Not so sure of that. I asuume that political aspirations mean more to her than the love of her husband. Or do you maen that she wore nice suits?

I mean it's dern foolish of any person to claim they can see into anyone else's marriage and pretend they know what's going on.

Despite their problems, Bill and Hillary stayed together and raised a successful daughter. Some people count that as a negative.

Ronald Reagan got a divorce and was accused of raping a woman --- and some people think they know what's going on in his marriage.

Lew Barrett
06-29-2006, 09:23 PM
Margo, I allow that she loved her husband and that my crack about her clothing might simply reflect one direction as a matter of taste, but with all due respect to another very caring lady (you) the "sound bite" comment too lightly dismisses a real disconnect in Nancy Regan's world view, and is indicitive of another trait that is the key reason I don't respect her as I would, say, Elenor Roosevelt as an acting First Lady.
The sum total of the Regan era "War On Drugs" (a dismal failure in every way) as it bore on our domestic drug abuse policies rode on the "Just Say No" initiative. Nothing of substance by way of funds or programs were developed domestically to deal with the root of the problems, or to create a program for developing treatment paths (rehab), or educational programs for parents and kids, and in this, Nancy Regan, with all the power of her pulpit, failed the country miserably by allowing it to be suggested with her as the poster girl, that we Just Say No. I can't think of a single cause or slogan with which she is better connected than this and if anybody else has or can offer one, apart from state visits and handshaking, please jump to NR's defense.
Compare this to Elenor Roosevelt's countless and well documented humanitarian efforts.....or.....Hillary Clinton's significant efforts at uplifting Arkansan medical facilities, as just a few examples of what active First Ladies, whatever their politics, can accomplish.
If Nancy Regan had any thoughts beyond her family and her husband, we are uninformed of them. Beyond that, and I suppose we can hold Jackie Kennedy to the same criteria, it's just plain unseemly for a women who pretends interest in what is largely a problem of the poor to wear outfits that cost more than most people make in a year and blithly suggest to the nation that we should "Just Say No" to their children who take drugs. You've dismissed this as a sound bite, but it was I think much more indicitive of a blase and even smug attitude towards things as they are, not to mention a truely naive waste of time.
Lew

ljb5
06-29-2006, 09:32 PM
Ronald Reagan was an adequate --- perhaps even effective --- president.

And that's about all.

For some reason, conservatives look to the Reagans as if they were some type of National Mommy and Daddy.

Like we're all supposed to admire their marriage and pretend that our own parents don't compare. It's all Cult of Personality b.s. Nanny government of the worst kind.

Reagan was elected to govern and that's it. He's not supposed to wipe your tears and kiss your booboos and tuck you in at night. Conservatives fell in love with this idea that he kept us safe from Communists --- and they transformed that into the fairytale that he chased the monsters out from under our beds.

Maybe he loved Nancy -- maybe she was a whore and he cheated on her --- who cares?

LeeG
06-30-2006, 06:24 AM
I take it that you don't care for Nancy? Being somewhat removed from the American political situation, I thought that Nancy was held in higher esteem by most Americans.

So, to you American formites, was Nancy OK or a witchypoo (you can thank Warren for that moniker)?

Nancy epitomized denial of domestic issues with one foot out of the Victorian era.

Just Say No is the most dumb ass idiotic response to children regarding the threat and potentials of substance abuse.
A 12 yr old is just getting up to steam on figuring out hypocrisy.

You can't fool a kid about the dangers of drugs when mommy and daddy take drugs ALL THE TIME, when mommy and daddy regularly use alcohol, antibiotics, over the counter drugs, anti-depressants, stimulants, etc, etc, etc.

Nancy and Ronnie epitomized a ditzy daddy leaving mommy to raise the kids. Except in their demographic a staff and school raises the kids. Appearance is everything.

While Ronnie benefited from the Hollywood economy he left it with hypocritical mores towards sexuality when AIDS arrived, delaying a response to AIDS because it was deemed a "homosexual disease".

Osborne Russell
06-30-2006, 01:11 PM
"We're doing all we can." -- Nancy told Ronnie to say that and he did. He didn't hear the question, apparently. Would it have mattered? What was the question? Who's the President?