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Memphis Mike
06-19-2006, 03:52 PM
Well. it's more interesting than any other topic I've seen posted here today.:rolleyes:



MSNBC.com
How flies walk on ceilings
Wall-climbing insects leave behind sticky footprints, scientists say
by COREY BINNS
Special to LiveScience
LiveScience

Updated: 8:32 p.m. CT June 13, 2006

Walking upside-down requires a careful balance of adhesion and weight, and specialized trekking tools to combat the constant tug of gravity.
Each fly foot has two fat footpads that give the insect plenty of surface area with which to cling. The adhesive pads on the feet, called pulvilli, come equipped with tiny hairs that have spatula-like tips. These hairs are called setae.
Scientists once thought that the curved shape of the hairs suggested that flies used them to grip onto the ceiling. In fact, the hairs produce a glue-like substance made of sugars and oils.
Sticky proof
A research team from the German Max Planck Institute for Metals Research recently studied more than 300 species of wall-climbing insects and watched them all leave behind sticky footprints.
"There are over one million insect species," team leader Stanislav Gorb told LiveScience. "We suppose that all of them have the secretion, but it is difficult to be 100 percent sure."
Gorb presented the findings at the Annual Meeting of the Society for Experimental Biology in April.
Flies need sticky feet to walk on ceilings, but not so sticky that they get stuck upside down. So each foot comes with a pair of claws that help hoist the gooey foot off the wall.
Flies use several different techniques to get unstuck: pushing, twisting, and peeling its footpads free.
"Methods involving peeling are always the best, because they require less energy to break the contact," Gorb said.
The combination of the feet hairs' rounded tips, the oily fluid, and a four-feet-on-the-floor rule help the inverted insect take steps in the right direction.
Lessons for robofly
Following in the fly's footsteps, robots are on their way to climbing walls.
Gorb's research team worked with a robotics group from Case Western Reserve University to design robotic feet that mimic a fly's footing.
On the bottom of the feet of a 3-ounce robot that's all legs, scientists tacked on a sticky, furry manmade material that resembles the hairy surface of a fly foot. The researchers also taught the robot how to gently peel its foot off a glass wall, just like a demure insect.
"It's the first time a robot has climbed glass in a way that was inspired by an animal," said mechanical engineer Roger Quinn.

Bruce Hooke
06-19-2006, 04:54 PM
Pretty cool. One wonders how the heck you go about studying the feet of flies! Then again, I know someone who studied the respiration of honey bees in flight, which makes fly feet sound pretty simple.

JimD
06-19-2006, 05:25 PM
Its all a Hollywood trick. The cameras are just turned upside down so it looks like they're walking the ceiling.

S/V Laura Ellen
06-19-2006, 05:37 PM
Mike:

You have too much time on your hands! You need a project, other than watching flies walk on the ceiling.:D

Memphis Mike
06-19-2006, 06:24 PM
Mike:

You have too much time on your hands! You need a project, other than watching flies alk on the cieling.:D

Hey, I spend three to four hours each morning looking for a job and the rest of the time with my flys. What more can ya ask?:D

George Roberts
06-19-2006, 07:20 PM
flies, yummy

Todd Bradshaw
06-19-2006, 08:21 PM
Did you ever see those guys who made super tiny model airplanes from balsa and tissue paper and then froze flies with aerosol propellant? While the flies were knocked-out they would crazy glue their feet to the wings of the models. When the flies woke up, they became the engines and the planes would fly. I saw them demonstrated once on the Today show or one of those early morning programs.

paladin
06-19-2006, 10:33 PM
Gawd....we posted summa this stuff YEARS ago....
Flies can't flap their wings and fly.....there's a reason they attach themselves to walls and the ceiling...watch closely....
When they get ready to land on the wall they fly up to it and sorta do a half midair turn like a jump jet and use the dirty...er...uh ...sticky feet to stay put....or...
when the attach themselves to the ceiling, they fly up to it and do a half loop and half roll to come into contact with the ceiling....
NOW...since they can't flap their wings and fly, they first release the front feet to start falling forward, then dive and do a half roll out after they have airspeed...on the wall they turn their bodies to aim head down and push themselves away from the wall, dive to get airspeed, then activate the wings....on a table or horizontal surface, they jump vertically then fall forward to get some speed....
We used a Bolex 16mm camera to do this for a science fair project over 45 years ago....:D dunno youse guys know nuthin'?

paladin
06-19-2006, 10:46 PM
and Todd......you glue a hair...a girls hair....on to the abdomen of the fly and the other end of the hair to the airplane.......just one teeny tiny drop...not made too heavy.....then you can shoot them down with a rubber band and a matchstick,,,,

JimD
06-20-2006, 12:31 AM
Why not make a teeny tiny anti aircraft gun to shoot them down?

paladin
06-20-2006, 05:28 AM
itsa PAPER airplane fer goshsakes......a match and a rubber band iz all it takes....:D ...dunno need no heavy high explosive proximity fused mini cannon...

Chris Coose
06-20-2006, 05:34 AM
Are you pissing in mason jars yet?
Using tissue to pick things up?
Sitting around nekid watching old movies over and over?

How bout that Sue? What is he using to attract these flies?
Kat, these two OK in your book?

JimD
06-20-2006, 05:49 AM
What is he using to attract these flies?

His charisma, of course.:D

Sea Frog
06-20-2006, 06:27 AM
I'd spare a couple, though. Their fractal vision could rejuvenate our sex lives in a near future.

skuthorp
06-20-2006, 06:42 AM
There's bilions of 'em here, an old ex stage-coach driver, (yes, stage-coach) told me once thatat he was camping in the outback and the sand flies were so thick he couldn't breathe so he took shelter under an old tin water tank. The flies got so mad the stuck their stingers through the iron trying to get him. He knocked the stingers over with a rock and soon there were so many they lifted the tank off the ground and flew away By the time he'd gradually freed them he came down 50 miles away!
And I believe him of course, he was an American, from California!

Mrleft8
06-20-2006, 07:44 AM
You guys are sooooo gullible! Flies wear lil' teensy weensy anti-gravity suits..... MAN! Do I have to explain EVERYTHING to you!? :D

Salty Sea Dog
06-20-2006, 08:04 AM
These anti-gravity suits were developed for the military but are being tested using flies by the CIA so the Rooskies don't get wind of them. Also being so small they are much cheaper and don't appear on the R & D defence budget so no awkward questions are being asked by nosey journalists