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Nicholas Carey
06-01-2006, 03:21 PM
This is annoying on so many levels...

http://www.gizmag.com/go/5682/

It's a Jet-Ski...no, wait, it's an ATV! This little baby converts from one to the other in 5 seconds. 140 bhp, 50mph top speed in both configurations:

http://www.gizmag.com/pictures/hero/5682_310506120044.jpg

Now, then...where'd I put my LAW?

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/at4-dvic540.jpg

brad9798
06-01-2006, 04:18 PM
It's not the machine, it's the driver ... heck the same folks that beg for a closer look at my woody frown at me when I ride the Sea-Doo ... until the recognize me.

I simply don't get all the negative connotation against the machine ... it's the asshole drivers that ruin things ... not the machines.

I use the Sea-Doo to explore places I otherwise could not entertain ... little coves, creeks, etc. It is very enlightening and rewarding.

The simple-minded approach that they are inherently evil is just that: simple-minded.

I'll admit many PWC-owners are jerk-offs ... but blanket statements are no less erronious.

:-)

Gary E
06-01-2006, 04:44 PM
The idiot that disapeard under the bow of a big sportfisherman while jumping the waves and came out from under the boats stern was.... uhhh.... much like hamberger...

BrianW
06-01-2006, 04:56 PM
Guess they've updated the L.A.W. since 1990. The weapon in the picture looks different than I recall.

Claudia
06-01-2006, 05:04 PM
Brad, watch going under the center of brifges full throttle. Caught a 125 ponder last week.:eek: Luckily the hook went into the vest.

brad9798
06-01-2006, 05:36 PM
You won't find me doing stupid **** on one ... not even for you, Claudia!!!

mmd
06-01-2006, 05:41 PM
I figure that jet-skis are like handguns - jet-skis don't p.o. other people; people driving jet-skis p.o. other people. Ergo, if you allow the banning of jet-skis because they are dangerous and scary even though they are useful and fun in the hands of properly trained people, you should do the same for handguns.

Let the outrage begin! <grin>

brad9798
06-01-2006, 05:43 PM
Well said, mmd.

geeman
06-01-2006, 05:55 PM
Dang ,,have to agree with MMD here,,so we should ban idiots instead,,LOL.Definitely will make more room on the water for the rest of us .

mmd
06-01-2006, 06:03 PM
But, Geeman, to ban idiots you'd have to find a way to detect idiots, and that would probably raise the evil spectre of <gasp> testing and licensure! Isn't that an intrusion on your right to the pursuit of happiness? A form of social censure? Discrimination of the sensibilities-challenged?

(... the author skulks back to the safety of his virtual foxhole after poking the bear with a sharp stick...)

geeman
06-01-2006, 06:05 PM
Yes but MMD,, we have a WEALTH of idiot detectors here in the bilge! Just ask em,,they know an idiot when they see one,after all they call em on it constantly LOLWe see em in action all the time. LOL

LeeG
06-01-2006, 07:19 PM
Guess they've updated the L.A.W. since 1990. The weapon in the picture looks different than I recall.

saw this one on the Discovery Channel,,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starstreak_missile

BrianW
06-01-2006, 07:22 PM
http://www.pbase.com/soileddude/image/60873918.jpg

LeeG
06-01-2006, 07:23 PM
you gotta do what you gotta do

Nicholas Carey
06-01-2006, 07:33 PM
The M136 AT4 LAW (http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/at4.htm).superceded the M72 LAW (http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/m72.htm).

Meerkat
06-01-2006, 08:13 PM
http://www.pbase.com/soileddude/image/60873918.jpgDon't ask, don't tell? :D

Sailor
06-01-2006, 08:40 PM
I guess I no longer want to be a sniper then:)
That poor human tripod looks a little peeved at the whole idea
I guess the command would be "PREESSENNNNNNNT ARSE"

BrianW
06-01-2006, 10:03 PM
The M136 AT4 LAW (http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/at4.htm).superceded the M72 LAW (http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/m72.htm).

There ya go, no wonder it looked different. :)

mmd
06-02-2006, 07:01 AM
Post-canned beans flamethrower?

Bruce Hooke
06-02-2006, 10:18 AM
My problem with jetskis is the amount of noise they make. I generally go out on the water for peace and quiet and one jetski anywhere within about 1/2 mile degrades the peace and quiet and within 1/4 mile it destroys the peace and quiet. I like lakes and ponds but at this point I would not even bother trying to go near lakes and ponds that permit jetskis anytime during the warmer months of the year. I should say that this issues is not unique to jetskis. High power motorboats create exactly the same issues. Noise levels cannot really be blamed on bad operators -- if you open up the throttle on one of these devices they will make noise. The only solution I know of is to open some lakes to noisy boats and restrict some lakes to quieter craft. It does certainly feel wrong to me that a handful of people can make enough noise to disturb dozens or even hundreds of other people on and near a lake. My quite urban neigborhood near a major street and around the corner from a fire station is MUCH more peaceful than your average suburban lake on a nice Saturday in the summer.

JimD
06-02-2006, 10:21 AM
Talk about asking to get your ass shot off

http://www.pbase.com/soileddude/image/60873918.jpg

geeman
06-02-2006, 10:22 AM
Which is why I tend to Not hit the lake on weekends,I much prefer the lake while everybody else is at work.One of the reasons my boat is now electric was the noise factor We found its so much more peaceful on the lake without the noise from the motor.No fumes,no gallons of gas. We cant go as far or as fast but whats the hurry anyway?

mmd
06-02-2006, 10:30 AM
It is easy to remove the problems you speak of. Test & license all boat operators (weeds out the yahoos), register and mark all boats (easy to identify scofflaws), and legislate maximum sound levels of marine exhausts.

The problem is the political will to enact these rules....

JimD
06-02-2006, 10:37 AM
I like boating where there are posted and enforced speed limits. The idiots just won't go there if they can't go fast.

John Bell
06-02-2006, 10:38 AM
I boat on a very busy lake, and to tell the truth, I'm not so sure the problem ("yahoos") is worse than the solution (strict rules and zealous enforcement). When it gets to that point, then I'll be on board for a harsher crackdown. It's supposed to be fun, remember?

Memphis Mike
06-02-2006, 10:40 AM
My problem with jetskis is the amount of noise they make. I generally go out on the water for peace and quiet and one jetski anywhere within about 1/2 mile degrades the peace and quiet and within 1/4 mile it destroys the peace and quiet. I like lakes and ponds but at this point I would not even bother trying to go near lakes and ponds that permit jetskis anytime during the warmer months of the year. I should say that this issues is not unique to jetskis. High power motorboats create exactly the same issues. Noise levels cannot really be blamed on bad operators -- if you open up the throttle on one of these devices they will make noise. The only solution I know of is to open some lakes to noisy boats and restrict some lakes to quieter craft. It does certainly feel wrong to me that a handful of people can make enough noise to disturb dozens or even hundreds of other people on and near a lake. My quite urban neigborhood near a major street and around the corner from a fire station is MUCH more peaceful than your average suburban lake on a nice Saturday in the summer.

It would be cheaper for all of those that are offended by the noise to purchase a pair of ear plugs.:D

Some of us like to go fast and that means a motor of some type.

I'm not going to another lake just because you don't like the sound of my motor.

I do however show some respect when near or approaching another vessel under sail or oar.

As Brad said. It ain't the craft it's the idiot driving it.

We have way too many people on the water that know nothing about the boat they are operating much less about proper etiqette.{sp?}

JimD
06-02-2006, 10:45 AM
I wouldn't mind seeing designated areas for stunting and the like much the way some parks and wilderness areas have designated off road areas for atv's and dirt bikes. They can behave like idiots and daredevils all they want as long as they keep to the area assigned for that kind of boating.

geeman
06-02-2006, 10:58 AM
Right,I have no problem with jetskis,,its the operator I have a problem with.But no matter what vessel your running,consideration for other people on the water would go a LONG way toward helping the problem.